Hey Samsung - Just Ship One UI 8.5 Stable Already!

We’re fed up with the missing One UI 8.5 rollout and the silence around it, because the longer Samsung drags, the more every other Galaxy owner gets pushed back. Then we get into wild Galaxy S27 Ultra rumors, Galaxy AR glasses leaks ahead of July Unpacked, and a Galaxy Book 6 Edge that sounds great until you see the price. 

• One UI 8.5 failing to arrive on the expected date and why that hurts trust 
• why Samsung’s staggered update rollout feels worse than Apple’s same-day model 
• S27 Ultra leak about dropping the 3x telephoto and faking 3x with the main sensor 
• Pixel-style camera bar idea and why MagSafe space matters 
• how a camera rearrange could affect S Pen space and a bigger silicon carbide battery 
• S27 Pro rumor as a smaller Ultra-like phone without S Pen 
• Galaxy AR glasses design leak and why July Unpacked feels likely 
• Unpacked expectations including wide fold Flip 8 Fold 8 Buds and Watch Ultra 2 
• Galaxy Book 6 Edge with Snapdragon X2 Elite and the pricing problem 
• Samsung earnings and why memory prices skew the big picture 
• Samsung restructuring talk amid labor tensions in Korea 
• Google Messages chats disappearing and how annoying that is 
• trifold foldable hype plus the scary repair cost reality 
• patent lawsuit talk and why big companies can outspend challengers 
• OpenAI phone rumors and why “agent first” hardware feels wrong 
• Samsung Cloud returning and Samsung Wallet adding Trips 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome back, everybody. This is episode number sixty of the Sammy Guru Podcast. My name is Jeff Springer. Let me always go with Tori. Tori say hi. Hey, how's it going? Or are you Tori? You know, you could disagree with me and say you're not Tori, you know? Yes. I heard that uh it's important for us to have a lot of disagreements on the podcast. Yes, apparently. Everybody wants to listen to podcasts where the the co-hosts hate each other, I guess. Yeah. Um anyway.

SPEAKER_03 0:24

How about the drama? Yeah, yeah. So we're taking it up this week.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Tori's playing the villain this week. Yes. If anyone doesn't know what we're talking about, some guy uh on Twitter uh made some post about how Tori just says yes to everything I do, which is not true at all. If you go back and I disagree to our podcast. Um, you know, and Tori brings a different perspective than me. We're we're not supposed to be. Obviously, if Tori was also heavily reading the blogs every week, we might disagree even more, but he's a teacher, and that's kind of the point, is that we didn't want two people who are both super involved with reading the the dirt sheets and all the stuff. We wanted people to bring different perspectives, which I think I know a lot of you guys enjoy it. So I mean those kind of comments don't bother me. I just think it's kind of funny, actually. Uh, Tori, how's your how's your week going?

SPEAKER_03 1:08

Uh, you know, uh chugging, moving and chugging, but uh you know, I'm actually kind of excited for this weekend. Uh we got the Devil Wears Prada 2, I'm interested in seeing, and also Hokum, a new scary movie. It's very scary, very, very interesting. It looks very, very aggressive. Are you gonna see that one? Uh yeah, yeah. I I I hope so. Uh, I probably do. Well, I need to finish watching The Devil Wars Prada 1. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but I do love me some Stanley Tucci. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

So it's a great movie, and I'm gonna go see it tomorrow with my wife. I haven't seen a movie with my wife by ourselves in I don't even know how long it's been. That happens when you have kids, you know. Such is life. All the people out there who have small kids probably know what I mean. We try the best we can, but uh a lot of our interaction is with the children present. And that's just that's the reality of how it goes. But anyway, we're still gonna have a good time. I'm looking forward to it.

SPEAKER_03 1:59

How was your week then?

SPEAKER_00 2:00

Oh, it's been a pretty good week. Um, I mean, definitely, you know, coming down off the launch, which is good. So I'm doing a little more YouTube content now. Yeah, I saw that's been picking up. Yeah, I've been picking up the YouTube content, but soon we'll be back to ramping up for the next launch. Yeah, it never ends up fulfillment, just a cycle, you know. So we gotta clear out some. Yeah, yeah. Shelly's supposed to be coming in and helping me clear out these boxes because we did get rid of our storage that we had in Peoria. Oh, yeah. When we got rid of that one, we cleared it out, and now I'm gonna get one down here that I can turn into like a half business because we need a little storage room for some of our personal stuff. Yeah. So be like half and half. I'll just get a bigger one. Yeah. And some of the mystery box inventory can go there. So there's not so much stuff in here.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

But hey, you know, we live in Phoenix, so there's you can't throw a penny without a penny as storage place. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Yeah, there's storage everywhere. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

Well, maybe not throw a penny. I mean, because there's scary. I mean, that's because there's a lot of room here.

SPEAKER_00 2:52

If you've never been to Phoenix, I mean it has we got like the most square miles of space of any major city. Oh, a hundred. Or even larger than than you know, any big city you think of in the US, New York, LA. Even LA is not as large as Phoenix. It's actually a little bit smaller in terms of total area. Phoenix eclipses LA, even in terms of area. People think LA is sprawled. If you come to Phoenix, it's it's even more.

SPEAKER_03 3:15

You can't get anywhere like that.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

From from like the bottom most southernmost suburb to the northernmost suburb, it's like two-hour drive. Oh, yeah. Literally. Yeah, yeah, it is. I mean, if you go all the way from Gilbert to Globe or or like right to the you know, very top of Anthem, maybe that's that's a two-hour drive. Yeah, it is. And in traffic, maybe three and a half hours, depending on the time that you're going. So it is definitely. I mean, the LA traffic is is serious too, because I was out there a few weeks ago, uh, but it's just not as much open space. Uh, but I've had a pretty good week. I mean, just doing some different stuff. Um, got a lot of stuff to talk about today. Um, you know, we got the whole Diana Roussini thing. I don't really have too much else to say about that. Yesterday was a wild story. I've been following that story closely because I just find it kind of interesting. But also, there's a wild story yesterday. I don't know if you read any stuff online, where this executive, a female executive at Chase, JP Morgan Chase, in their finance division, was accused of sexually assaulting like Dominatrix style. Yeah, actually, I've seen something like that. He got fired by them, and he was already on to another investment firm, which he then left three weeks ago, and I guess he was trying to get sue JP Morgan and get some money, but it was completely fabricated. It came out that the story wasn't true, and they corroborated. So a bunch of news outlets, mostly tabloids, who published this originally, they basically ruined this lady's life over something that wasn't even true. I I hate to see that, you know, when it's not true. Now, Diana Rossini, she did that to herself. Yeah, she shouldn't have been sleeping with a married NFL coach for six years and didn't really cover any tracks, so you know I can't feel too much of the track. People maybe shouldn't shouldn't be piling on as much as they are, but but you were doing something you knew not to do for a long time. So you know, it is what it is. But we got a lot of Samsung

One UI 8.5 Misses Its Date

SPEAKER_00 5:05

news this week, so I guess we can jump in. Of course, we'll always get off topic throughout the show. Oh, yeah, as always.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

That that's a given.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

But the biggest story of the day is as we talked about last week, I told you that April 30th, which was if I remember correctly, my memory's not that bad yet, I'm not that old. Yesterday, that one UI8.5 would be rolling out to the S26, and it's nowhere to be seen. Nowhere. Not not in Korea either, not in the US, not in Korea, not in Europe, not in Antarctica, as far as I'm aware. Samsung has rolled it out nowhere to no regions, and they've said nothing about it. And they're they're the ones who are saying like that is gonna be coming towards the end of April. Towards the end of April, I mean, it can't be any more towards the end of April than April 30th. Yeah. We're not in April anymore, so it can't be coming towards the end of April. April's gone.

SPEAKER_03 5:56

Yeah, it's gone.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

This is now towards the beginning of May.

SPEAKER_03 5:59

It's gonna be May.

SPEAKER_00 6:01

So obviously, they're not gonna release it in April. Monday the 4th would be the earliest they could release it. Uh, I guess they could release it on Monday because technically there's a holiday in China. I told you about that earlier. So a lot of companies are off, but Samsung is in Korea, it's not a holiday there, so potentially I guess they could release it on Monday, but it's nowhere to be seen right now. Um and so our take, we we wrote an article about it this morning once it was clear that it wasn't coming, and uh our editor in chief, Samiti wrote this up. His take is like, well, considering Samsung didn't communicate, and they previously said that it was gonna be you know towards the end of April, that was kind of the the whole idea. Um oh never mind, my bad. So May 1st is a holiday in Korea, it's just not it doesn't go to the fifth. So May 1st is also Labor Day. That's what it is in China. So maybe that could be why. So Samit did say that could be why. Um yeah, yeah, he did say that. So maybe that could be, but but it's kind of weird there's no communication because their own customer support people are and usually I don't take the customer support chats to mean much, but a lot of people in various countries had reached out to the customer support people, and they all said that it was going to be coming on 30th. So that's a little weird. Usually sometimes someone will reach out to one of their customer support people, and those people are usually in call centers or whatever. They might give you some answer that's completely nonsense and doesn't is not aligned with what Samsung's doing. Yeah, but when you got like tons of people that are all contact and they all say the same date, and you it kind of seems to make like sense that it might come on the 30th. Given Samsung never issued an official press release that it was necessarily saying that, but the fact that there's no communication after a beta program that's been open for I think like six or seven months for the S25, like where the hell is the update? Like, why like just push the update? Like it's ridiculous. This had 10 betas, I think. Nine or ten betas. That's crazy, man. Like it's just it's almost time for the one UI9 beta to come out, and they haven't released the stable for the previous one. Um a lot of people are mad about this, and and rightfully so, because of course, all the people who have the older devices, they know that the longer the S25 takes to get it, their devices are getting pushed further to the back of the line. Yes. So if you've got an S24 and you've been waiting on the update, you know, you're like, oh well, if the S25 gets it on April 30th, maybe I'll get it a couple weeks later. Well, now it's like, oh well, the S25 didn't get it on April 30th, so I'm gonna get it. I'm waiting two weeks later after whenever the S25 gets it, probably. So that kind of sucks. Uh, you know, come on, Samsung, release the update. What are you doing, man? I mean, at this point, it's like there's nothing there's nothing in there that I feel like really needs any more marination. I I've I've seen the betas. I have an S25, S24, I've ran the betas. It's it's mostly fine, like it's ready for release. Just push it out. And this goes back to what we've said many times about uh this is what it goes back to what we've said many times about Samsung not pushing updates like Apple does, where they push out a bunch of up and all every all the devices get the update in the same day. That makes people mad. But at the very least, as we said before, they could push the update out to the last few flagships at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Don't you think, Tori, that that would make people happy?

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Well, you know, I have to disagree more. Sounds uh yeah, yeah, no, um I think one of the big things, and again, like most people I mostly converse with are Apple people because that's what most people have. Um but and they don't think about it because they just get their updates.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody gets it at the same time. So yeah, Apple people, they find it weird when we're talking about like an update coming because they're like everybody just gets the update at the same time.

SPEAKER_03 9:54

Yeah, I know. Uh yeah, so you know, you have that boat. Um, but I think people would I know you have to do the betas here and there, but yeah, I say just roll it out, be consistent, have a plan. Um, that's what the people want. I mean, like we're paying a lot of money, you know, now for these phones, and we're looking at okay, like how many updates can I get? Like, you know, what is the longevity of the phone? I want to be able to not have to update every single year, but also still enjoy some of the new features. And so, hey, I I want my updates. We want it.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

The people have the S25, they want their updates. Yeah, I know. Tori wants his update. I do, yeah. And the S25, I mean the S25 is getting a lot of the S26 features. Sam's on kind of the changelog already leaked, and like I like we talked about last week, almost all the features that you care about, aside from priority notifications and summaries, which I already said last week's summaries is not worth caring about because it's not very good. But those two features are the only two that aren't really coming. So the S25 people, they want their update more than anyone because they're getting almost everything the S26 got, you know, and the longer they they hold it, I know I I tried to defend it Samsung for the last year since we started this podcast, a year and a half, saying people are like, oh, well, you know, Samsung's just delaying the updates to try to sell more units of the new phone. I'm starting to believe that myself because it's like it's been it's been all near, it's gonna be nearly three months by the time they roll out the update to the S25. And the S25 had been testing it forever. Why does it need to take that long? I didn't what other reason is there, other than I just want people to take a look at the S26, yeah, and maybe they'll eventually just give in and they'll be like, oh, I can go ahead and get 1U8.5 and I could get some other stuff too, like the privacy display and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 11:40

Which I mean, even with that, I mean, like I don't even see that many like commercials. And I know like where um I mostly go to Walmart, that's where they you know have them on display, um, you know, for the most part. Um, but I don't really see people just jumping at the bits to get this.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

Well, they've sold really well, but I think a lot of that was pre-orders as usual. Oh, yeah, yeah. And also there haven't been as many deals after the pre-orders. They did just put a $200 discount again on it with the free case.

SPEAKER_03 12:08

That is good, but with a free case, yeah. So $10.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

$10.99 instead of $12.99 and a free case. That's some that's better than we've seen since the pre-orders. So if you wanted to buy one, that'd be a good time. But if you have an S25, you really shouldn't buy one. You shouldn't need to buy one because you should already have one U8.5. You should really not have much reason to buy one. Yeah. Because what are the other good reasons? I mean, we talked about it during the review. The kit the 5x camera is better. That's that's really the only good one. Like privacy display.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

Yeah, I guess we're gonna do that.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

I like privacy display, but like if you have an S25 from all the leaks, and we're gonna talk about this in a bit, because we got some good S27 leaks now. Next year is gonna be a bigger upgrade if you're going from an S25. Like, because you're going S25 to S26, you're not really gaining much in terms of camera, battery, and all that stuff. If you go S25 to S27, we're expecting to be more leaks. And so, and you know, there's gonna be more features to upgrade for. And so let's talk about that.

S27 Ultra Camera Cut Rumor

SPEAKER_00 13:05

Um, you might not think that this is an upgrade, but we have really big S27 news. Uh, one of those is Ice Universe says that Samsung may delete a camera from the S27's array, namely the 3x Zoom, which has been very much criticized as being the worst camera, the 3X telephoto, on the every single Ultra since the S22, basically. It's not good. And the 5X is definitely the one that most people are going to use. Um I I don't necessarily need the I don't need the 3X because I I can use the 5X in those kind of situations, you know? It gives a pretty good amount of flexibility for me. So in my opinion, I'm okay with it. What do you think, Tori? I mean, you don't have you can agree, you can disagree. Have you ever used the 3x zoom before on your Galaxy device?

SPEAKER_03 14:08

Uh I mean, honestly, I just zoom in and out to get, you know, whatever picture quality I'm trying to get. Um, you know, I something I I do keep on, I don't know if it uses um that camera in particular, but it's the motion photo. I I use that um quite often. Um, but I mean, yeah, like I the average person, we just want a good camera. And like, you know, I as long as we're able to have a selfie take a camera, I think the average consumer probably won't even be phased by it. But I think when you get to your enthusiast, um, like it's a loss, right? Um, and something that we originally already had. Um, and so I mean, go ahead, go ahead, Twitch. No, no, no, go for it, go for it.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

No, and then the only people that will notice is gonna be the enthusiast anyway, because there's still gonna be a three X button on the camera. Yeah. It's just gonna use the 200 megapixel main camera to simulate the three X. And it's going and Samsung is saying, according to Ice Universe, that they're confident enough that the main camera can do a 3x simulated zoom with enough quality that people won't notice. So the average person is never gonna know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because there's still gonna be a two, a three, a five, and a 10. And so they're not gonna have any idea that anything changed. They're just gonna be like, oh, there's still a three there, I'll press it if I want it. And why would they care? Because they're still gonna be like, I could still zoom three X.

SPEAKER_02 15:32

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

But at least from my perspective, if you are a photography enthusiast that cares about the photography of your S27 Ultra, you you could still use just back up a little. Yeah, the 5X, you could use the 5X instead of the 3X. I know some people are like, well, sometimes you're in a tight space where Yeah, that's not what I jumped to if you're in a tight space. Yeah, if you're not necessarily in a position to do that, but in most positions, you could probably use the 5x. But I mean, Samsung is saying that the main camera will do 3x digital zoom with enough that the quality isn't gonna be that much of a loss. So that

Pixel-Style Camera Bar And MagSafe

SPEAKER_00 16:05

would be very interesting. I I'm actually okay with this. Um, and now let's talk about the reason why they're doing this story, which is the even bigger change. Uh, and and this one to just save money. Well, no, you're gonna see this. This one, this one is gonna be uh a bit of a shock if you haven't seen it yet. And I don't think you've seen it yet. Let me scroll down to the uh the S27 uh design, the camera design, because this one is definitely going to blow your mind. So you know how people complained about, or I complained about as well, the uh S27 or sorry, the S26 Ultra, the camera module. It goes kind of far down the back. Yeah, so yeah, and we had to do like the mag like right that messes up your mag safe accessories. Well, if you believe Ice Universe, I mean he didn't say though um that this is actually what Samsung's going to do. He just said that this is something that they're kicking around, um, and this is what it could look like. Right here. Oh no. It kind of looks like a pixel.

SPEAKER_03 17:07

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

With a vertical camera bar. Do you see it?

SPEAKER_03 17:11

I mean, that does give you the real estate.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

So now you don't have to worry about the magsafe issue anymore because it wouldn't be so far down. You would be able to use your magsafe just like you can on the pixel on the iPhone.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

Yeah, but it really does look like a pixel.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

But then it looks just like a pixel, and people are gonna criticize that. Uh I do think that this might be the smart play though, because MagSafe is becoming increasingly I need to too. MagSafe is becoming increasingly important. You can't lose that real estate.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

Yeah, you need that real estate. Uh, and like there's just so many, uh, especially with the ladies, um, in like teenagers. Um, a lot of them like having the wallets on the back, you know, keep from like having to carry a purse and whatnot. Um, but like it is actually kind of hard to do it with how far down the can do my Valvinus from the WWF in 1998.

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Hello, ladies. Hello ladies. Anyway, um, I think this might be the right play, but people are definitely gonna criticize them for copying Google if they do this, because it looks it looks like they just took the Samsung and the Pixel and they had a baby because it looks exactly like a pixel now. Yeah, honestly, and all you change is the camera. But yeah, if you just take camera's the Samsung camera and you just paste this side of it vertical horizontally, then that basically looks like a pixel design, even though it's still gonna have the flat edges, I believe, and the pixel still is a little more rounded, so it won't look exactly like a pixel, but it's an interesting design change. So he didn't say that this is what they're doing, he just said Samsung is internally kicking this idea around.

SPEAKER_03 18:45

I mean, I I mean for me, I think as a you know regular purchaser of cell phones, uh I think honestly, I think people would look at this and be like, ooh, that is cool, interesting, and unique compared to all the other ones, right? Just by changing a little bit of the outward appearance is enough for me, I think, to sell phones to the regular consumer. Um, because again, like what makes you want something so quick is by I can actually see it on the phone, they're like, Oh, that's different. Yeah, and that's what people gravitate to. Uh, it's about that appearance.

SPEAKER_00 19:27

Like, uh I think it's because people want people to people want other people to know they have the new phone. Boom, there you go. You know, it's a status symbol. Yeah, yeah. That's why Apple, whilst do you think that Apple every year releases like one really bold looking color of the new iPhone? Like this year they have the bright orange. It's because everyone's gonna go out and buy the bright orange because then they can show their friends and say, hey, look, this is not an iPhone 16 Pro Max, it's an iPhone 17 Pro Max. And if you don't have this one, then you're a peasant.

SPEAKER_02 19:55

Yes. And I'm not a peasant.

SPEAKER_00 19:57

And then because I have the 17 Pro Max.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

Yes, you do.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

Mine is orange. And then this year, apparently, Apple's gonna do like a dark red, yeah. Uh, which is actually close to that color that Samsung is potentially considering, like a crimson, yeah, a roll tide color. Roll tide. Or a little bit darker, maybe it's like a garnet. Yeah. But I don't know, I'm not opposed to this. I mean, obviously, you could see that that if they if they got rid of the 3X telephoto, then those two ideas make sense together. Because in order to make the camera look like that, you gotta get rid of one of the cameras. Yeah. Because otherwise, this cannot just be pasted horizontally. No, it cannot it is not gonna work, it's not gonna look clean. No, so you gotta get rid of it.

SPEAKER_03 20:35

You need to be completely reimagined. But I kind of hope they do something like that. I I I I truly think um, you know, you will start to regain a lot of customers, especially at um, you know, at ATT Verizon, you know, like those in-stores. Um yeah, because people see that and they're like that. And they're like, Oh, they look at that. Like, what is that? So I hope they do that. And and again, like I know I said this a few times on the show, but like innovation doesn't need to be super crazy. Like, innovation can literally just be changing something physically, and then all of a sudden, a whole bunch of people who had no intentions of buying the phone, now they're now they're just willing and ready to buy it.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Which is why I see that you guys out there, anyone who doesn't think, see that Tory, if you don't think Tory makes a valuable contribution to the show, then you're wrong. Because see, everybody out there who's an enthusiast wouldn't think about this because people are always arguing on X and Reddit and on all the forums about how innovation has to be something that matters to the tech crowd, where and and just changing the colors or changing the design is not something you need to do every year. Maybe that is what you should do, though, if you want to sell phones.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:45

Because the average person doesn't really give a damn about changing or deleting the 3X camera or the periscope lens that's in the camera or the battery charging technology. All they care is that that stuff works. Yeah. But when they are st When they're looking for a new phone, or even maybe even they don't need a new phone, they're just out and they see like they're at Tempe Marketplace and they see a giant picture in the Verizon store window that's got this phone that looks different than anything they've seen. That might make them go into the store and say, Hey, what is that? And then they might buy it. Because you know, the Verizon rep will just be like, hey, it's only $20 a month for 84 months.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

And they'll be like, oh, well, that's only seven years. I mean, it's a cool color. Seven years, I'll buy it.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

Yeah. And you know, and I and think about how how often I talk about the aura glow color. Um, what was that? The no ten. Yeah, the note ten. So like, so like so think about that. And you also brought up too, is like like again, the regular consumer is not looking for um in all like the little cool snappy updates. Like, you know, they want the phone to feel snappy, but like they want great battery, yeah. And they want a fast phone, yeah. And they don't care how they don't care how that happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:05

The enthusiasts care like how that happens, and they're willing to debate like what Samsung should do to get to those ends. But the end consumer, they don't care if Samsung did that by making the software better, the hardware better, a combination of the two. And they don't care what tweaks were made on either side to get it.

SPEAKER_03 23:19

Yeah, if you pull someone from the street and say, Who was a Samsung user? Say, uh, hey, uh, what'd you think of the uh one one UI? They'll be like, What do they use one UI?

SPEAKER_00 23:29

And they're like, what do you think about the Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5? And they'll be like, What? What is that?

SPEAKER_03 23:35

Yeah, yeah, what is that? And but back to my point of that, though, like, um you want people just want to be able to say, hey, I got this cool looking bone. I got this cool looking watch where people are going to stop and say, Hey, uh, you know, uh, that's such a cool watch. What is that? Oh, is that the new Samsung? I keep seeing, you know, uh like little billboards or stuff for. Um, and so like when I think back to Aura Glow, I I just remember how quickly that color just sold out, and it was so hard to get because again, so many people wanted it just for that cool factor. Um, it's the same thing for the watch. Uh, I know a lot of people who want to get the watch because hey, every time I'm out somewhere, I at least I get asked two or three times, hey, is that the Samsung Ultra watch? That is such a cool watch. Uh, I've been like wanting to get one. Hey, can you like tell me about it? You know, I've been talking to my wife about it, you know, and again, like, and it's missing a lot of things that I liked originally from the clock, you know, the rotating bezel and whatnot. But like, again, it's the cool, I just like it.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

Yeah, and I think people that's something that's lost on the enthusiast is that your phone, at least, and your smartwatch have now become status symbols and fashion accessories just as much as they are, and conversation pieces as much as they are tools. Because not everybody, it's just like any other tool, you know. Like I collect watches and I I appreciate a lot of stuff about the watch, like you know, mechanical watches, I mean, like the movement that the movement that's in the watch, uh, how the indices are applied and what kind of certifications it has, uh, how accurate it keeps time on a daily basis, plus or minus two seconds. But if you just ask a regular person, like, what do you think of this watch? They'll be like, oh, that's a cool black watch that has gold in gold hands on it. Yeah. They wouldn't even be able to tell you the brand. They don't know any of that stuff. They don't know the brand, they don't know the movement. They don't so it's all about the difference between enthusiasts and the average person. If you're a company and you're trying to sell something, you you gotta appeal to the mass market at least as much as you do the enthusiasts. Both of them are important, don't get me wrong. Because if you don't have super fans, those are the people who are out there boosting your company all the time, talking about you, making sure that you're out there in the news and in the conversation of your industry. So that's important. Yeah. But the people actually buying your products, 95% of those people are not the enthusiast. They're the people who only care about how it looks and how it performs, but they'd only care about how it performs at a service level. Yes. And so, you know, I think that's coming back to what Apple does. Samsung does have to care, I think, more about making stuff that looks a little different. And maybe they find a way to do that by changing a little hardware design here and there. I mean, all Apple does really is just change a signature color every year. They don't need to really change their design too much. Samsung should do that, though. They've been coming up with really boring colors lately.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

Yeah, it's always there's always a black, there's always a white, like and maybe like one new, you know, crazy color. But like honestly, if you if you like uh if you just change the color and you just change like one little thing that makes it look like why don't we put out three really vibrant colors, you know?

SPEAKER_00 26:53

Why can't we do that? I don't see why not. White, black, and then three interesting ones. Yeah, like an interesting green or something like a gradient glow, like the aura glow, like a different gradient color, an iridescent shade. You know, something crazy to get people talking. Yeah, people want cool. And this camera module, so it's to that end, if they do decide to go this way, it could be something that maybe gets them back out there.

SPEAKER_03 27:15

Yeah, I even I mean looking at that camera module, I was like, dang, that looks cool, that looks interesting. Uh, if I were to have seen it, a commercial, and you know, and something popped up on my YouTube about it, I would instantly want to uh or I will really be heavily considering buying it. I would be thinking about it.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

So I'd be like, I gotta go trade this 25 volts.

SPEAKER_03 27:39

Yeah, no, I will you know, and if I saw like, you know, like if they said like, hey, we changed the camera buzzle, and then like they showed like you know, taking pictures of it, be like, I gotta have it.

SPEAKER_00 27:50

Yeah, I got it. And if they showed you now, you can slap actual mag safes on the back. Yeah. Whereas before a mag safe, and you have magnets, and they put real magnets in it. Yeah, yeah, like that could be a combo. And you know what else? Uh, this is a big news, so stick with this for a minute. We'll get to other stuff, but this is a big story. If this did happen, it would be one of the biggest stories of of 2027 for sure. The other thing that I think this could possibly mean two things actually. If you move the camera up, that means there's a lot more internal space that's shifted towards the bottom of the phone.

SPEAKER_03 28:23

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

And what goes in the bottom

S27 Pro Lineup Talk Returns

SPEAKER_00 28:25

of the phone, little S- Pin action.

SPEAKER_03 28:27

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

So, what could that potentially mean for the S pin if they move the camera up pixel style? I think the S pin is sticking around in the Ultra if that comes to fruition. Because why do you need to get rid of it now? Yeah, no, you've got a little more space if you move it up a little bit. You can have a little more space there in the bottom. You might even be able to put that bigger battery, that silicon carbide battery in there.

SPEAKER_02 28:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:47

Um, and I think the S Pen's gonna stick around if they rearrange it that way. In fact, that might be the best of everything we want. Hey, we both got our UAG Monarch Pro cases on today. Yeah, we do. You got the green, all green, I got the orange. Um, I just noticed that. Um, but yeah, uh it's uh I think the S Pen could stay, and we might get the silicon carbide bigger battery. That would make this one of the biggest upgrades we've had. Probably the biggest ultra upgrade ever. If we've got silicon carbide battery, new camera module that's horizontal, mag safe magnets.

SPEAKER_03 29:17

Um the only thing I don't was that uh I will I would like for them moving forward, keep the display privacy, but I think they'll keep that.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

The only thing I don't know though is, and I'm pretty sure we can't get is the only if you put the mag safe and magnets in there. I don't know if you can have the S Pen. That's gonna be tricky. I still think that's gonna be tricky really because the S Pen does not like magnets in general. If you put magSafe accessories on with a case, it will mess up. S Pen will skip. So Samsung's got they probably could do it in software, they're smart enough. They could probably figure out how to make it work. You have to trick it, probably do some software trickery. Yeah, because the magnets do mess with S Pen like digitizing. So, I mean, that would be like the total package. We got magSafe, the camera's horizontal, so you can actually put your set accessories on there. Magnets are in there, the S Pen stays, silicon carbide battery. That's pretty much what everybody's been wanting. I mean, it it in I can't think if they upgrade the primary main camera, which we've heard that they're gonna do that too, that's like the total package. If that happened, they're gonna sell a lot of S27 Ultras. Oh, yeah. Now let's talk about the other news. The other reason that I think the S27 Ultra is gonna keep the S Pin is that we heard this week as well from some other leakers, including Ice Universe, commented on this that next year, and we heard stop me if you've heard this before. Next year there's supposed to be an S27 Pro. You remember when someone said last year there was an S26 Pro? Yeah. And if you take a look at Samsung's website, is there an S26 Pro? There is not. There is not, but supposedly Samsung has, you know, you know, they're feeling some type of way about not releasing the S26 Pro, so they're like, hey, let's do it for the S27. And so supposedly, according to Ice Universe and a few other people, it could be the case that the S27 Pro. Stop me if you've heard this one before. Okay, could be just the S27 Ultra, slightly smaller with no S Pen. I think I've heard this. Who said that they should do that? I think it was us many times. I think I heard this one. Just make a phone that's slightly smaller with no S Pen because a lot of people will want that and still keep the same camera.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

Well, yeah, yeah, because like again, like um there's older people, uh, you know, yeah, I'm just saying that one each group, but um, you know, most ones I know they don't want like the ultras and whatnot, they just want a regular phone that just looks a little cooler than what they currently got.

SPEAKER_00 31:51

I still don't know that S27 Pro is the right name for it because that still signifies that there's something pro about it, but maybe that just means pro cameras. Yeah, I think so maybe they're gonna release the base S27, which has absolute garbage cameras. No, I'm just kidding. That's not what they're gonna say, but that'll be the implication. The base S27 has really not great cameras, they're still gonna charge you 900 for it, and then they'll be like, hey, look, if you don't want garbage cameras, you can pay 1100 instead of 900. You can get the S27 Pro. You don't have to pay extra for the S Pen, but you get better the same camera as the Ultra. And then if you want to go all the way up, then you get the Ultra, maximum screen size, S Pen to take all your notes, 1300 bucks. Boom. By then, maybe 1400 bucks if the RAM crisis continues. Who knows? Hopefully not. Hopefully not, but you know, it's possible, and then that could be the lineup. I'd be okay with that as long as they're giving people some good options. No, it makes more sense than the lineup we had this year. Because the S26 Plus makes no sense at $1,100. No, literally, no one should buy that phone at $1,100, even though it's not a bad phone. Josh reviewed it for us, it's a good phone, but the price is insane. If it was $300 less, it'd be it'd be the I'd be tell everyone to buy it. Everyone should buy one for $800, but it's not $800. If you can get a brand new S26 Plus for $800, I'd say, yeah, buy it. Um, so that's what's going on with the S27. Um, but the leaks

Galaxy Glasses Leak And Timeline

SPEAKER_00 33:20

haven't stopped there. We now have our first full look at the Galaxy glasses. And there they are. Boom, boom, boom. Gotta get that Android headlines and on leaks, they leaked the Galaxy glasses, which to me kind of look a lot like a pair of Ray-Ban Wayfarers.

SPEAKER_03 33:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:38

And why do I say they look like Ray-Ban Wayfarers? Well, because those are the sunglasses I use every day in my car. They're in my car. I have a pair of those with my prescription. They very much look like them. They look like Ray-Ban Wayfarers that instead of having Ray-Ban on the side, says Samsung, and then it's got cameras right on the temple, which Ray-Ban doesn't have, obviously, unless you buy the Ray-Ban Metas. Yeah. But they really kind of leaned on, I guess probably makes sense because everyone knows that Ray-Ban works with Meta for the meta glasses. And so Samsung's like, well, let's just copy paste that design over here. Go ahead and just copy and paste it, put it over here into our editing software, change out the logo, put a different size camera on there. Boom. Boom, done. Boom. Only took them two seconds to design to design it.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

But they look good though, honestly. No, no, they look very sleek, very nice. I guess the bridge of the nose is a little different.

SPEAKER_00 34:31

Let's see another picture. There you go. Yeah, I know. Very sleek. They do look nice, yeah. They might look they do look a little thinner, I guess, now that I'm looking this angle where it's wider shot than the Ray-Ban uh meta glasses. So they look a little thinner to me. Of course, we don't really know until you get them in hand because I've reviewed a lot of smart glasses lately on my personal YouTube channel. I can tell you, Tori's done some B-roll of me wearing them. You can never really tell these until you get them in hand. Because all of these companies, they try to make them look super thin in the renders, and then you might get them in hand and they might weigh like two pounds on your face, and they'd be super thick. It looks like you're wearing a football helmet over your face instead of glasses. Yeah. So, you know, hopefully that's not true because they do look they do look sleek. And it looks like the you know, the bridge on the nose is a little different than the Ray Bans, so they might be a little bit thinner profile. Anyway, I'm pretty excited about these. Um it looks like that the overall kind of launch plan here is that Samsung has two um models planned. One of them is going to be the AR version that's gonna be a little bit I don't know, a little bit uh less powerful, which are gonna be the ones that you wear all the time for maps and stuff. Those look like they might be on track for a release in July. Oh, yeah. So when we're in unpacked, we might be able to unpack. Yes, we might be able to unpack them. Um but then the more powerful version, uh, which is going to be uh the micro LED display that has um a little bit more powerful hardware, which you would use to like game and stuff, more similar to like the Rokid ones that I reviewed on my personal channel. And some of those were you know, you really you're gonna eat through the battery pretty quickly, so you probably want to wear these like at your house and not you're not gonna wear these out and about, like the AR ones. Those are supposed to be coming, but they might not come until 2027. But I fully well believe that Samsung is planning to release the Galaxy AR glasses, the whatever they're gonna call the basic model, this model that we've seen the leaks of. Yeah. And the Galaxy Buds Able, which we talked about last week. Oh, yes, we did talk about them. That we leaked, actually. We were the first ones to uncover Galaxy Buds Able in the 1UI9 software, thanks to Josh. Great job, Josh. Yeah, great job, um, so we were the ones to cover that scoop. Those two products that we leaked in this Galaxy Bud uh glasses that Android Headlines leaked, I think they're gonna arrive in July. Why not? I mean, the timeline is is correct. Uh looks like they're all getting certified. We're seeing the leaks, they're in the software already. That usually is on track with they're probably coming pretty soon. So yeah, the launch event is still 12 weeks away almost, actually, 82 days. So yeah, yeah. 12 weeks from this past Wednesday. Yes. So we're 12 weeks away from the launch from Unpacked, which is Samsung's unpacked dates are always the worst kept secret. We always find out about them early from someone.

SPEAKER_03 37:30

It's gonna be Well, I appreciate them because then I can plan out.

SPEAKER_00 37:33

We appreciate the leakers who who find that info. Yeah, yeah. Usually it's like the Korean newspapers who find this out because you know they have the Korean newspapers, they're in Seoul, and everybody in Seoul works for Samsung. So people who work for the paper, they know 10 people who work for Samsung, and someone eventually lets it slip. Hey, I'm gonna be in London from July 22nd or July 20th through July 25th. And they're like, hmm, that's interesting. And then they find out that a bunch of other Samsung mobile employees are gonna be in London at the same time, and they're like, while we piece that together, really kind of interesting. Very interesting you know, pattern that's emerging here. Lots of people going to London in the third week of July, which just so happens to line up with the usual foldable unpacked. So it looks like July 22nd, we're gonna see the wide fold, the Z Flip 8, the Z Fold 8, Galaxy Buds Able, Galaxy Watch Ultra 2, and Galaxy AR Glasses. It's gonna be a massive unpacked event. Um, do not think they're gonna see Galaxy Ring 2. Do not think we're gonna see Galaxy Tab S12, because those are usually just released with a press release because Samsung doesn't change anything about the tablets except the processor every year. They're just like, hey, here's another $1,500 tablet. Do you want to spend $1,500 on a tablet and $500 on a keyboard? Well, here you go. Is there anything new about it? No, we just put a new processor in it. No new features. No new features, no, nothing. Other than the processor. So $1,500 plus $500 for the keyboard. Have a nice day. So they don't want to put that unpacked because people are gonna be like, well, that's that sucks. That's nothing interesting about that. So, you know, you don't want to over you don't want to underwhelm your audience with a product that's not great, especially when you got so many new products. The wide fold is new, the AR glasses are new, and the Buds Able are new. Those are three new product categories that we've never seen before. So you're introducing three new categories or form factors, you definitely don't want to have something underwhelming. No now the flip eight, the watch ultra two, and the fold eight, they're not new, but they're also devices that have a lot of interest. Yeah. There's a lot of flip, fold, and watch ultra users out there. So even if those aren't as sexy, so to speak, as the new product categories, there's still a lot of people who'll be looking forward to those and will purchase those. The fold 8, especially, you know, there's lots of people using folds now. So there's a lot of people who will buy the fold eight, especially if it has solid upgrades in the camera and in the battery.

SPEAKER_03 39:57

No, I I 100% agree.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

So some very exciting leaks this week. Um oh, one more hardware news. Uh, we'll come back and talk about random stuff. We'll take a break today. We haven't taken a break in a while. You know, sometimes you need like a two-minute

Galaxy Book 6 Edge Pricing Debate

SPEAKER_00 40:10

break. We haven't really taken a two-minute, three-minute break in a while. Yeah, but yeah. But before we leave, the Galaxy Book 6 Edge was officially uh announced by Samsung this week. They released the Galaxy Book 6 Pro, which I'm using right now on this table, which is what I'm actually reading the story on. Uh, and then the Galaxy Book 6 Ultra, like six weeks ago, and they didn't release the Galaxy Book 6 Edge. Everyone was like, Where's the Galaxy Book 6 Edge? Well, now they've released it. It's not available for purchase yet in the US, but it will be coming available in May. It runs the Snapdragon X2 Elite, which is a very, very powerful chip. I have the ASUS Zenbook A16, which also runs this chip. It's amazing. Yeah. Honestly, if you want great battery life and performance on Windows, I I recommend getting yourself something with a Snapdragon X2 Elite. The edge is only 12.3 millimeters thick, which is absolutely fantastic. Has AI features integrated into everyday task. It also runs, uh, like I said, the X2 Elite has really impressive NPU performance for AI. You got an AMLA display, it only comes in 16 inches. Refresh rate up to 120 Hz. And the other thing about this is now it packs a quad speaker setup with Dolby Atmos, even on the edge. They rate it for 22 hours of video playback, 65 watt ultra charging, which gets you 40% battery in up to 30 minutes. Um the only bad thing about this device is the pricing. Um the pricing looks bad. The European prices were released, and I think it was the base model, which only has 5, 12 gigs of storage, I think is 2,000 euros, which would be 2,000 dollars. And the one terabyte model, the one terabyte model, which uh has 32 gigs of RAM, I think, is like $2,700. Which is basically almost the same price as the Pro. So then where's the distinction between them? I mean, I guess the edge and the Pro are supposed to be similar because they're just different architectures. One has the Snapdragon, one has the Intel, depending on if you want Intel or Qualcomm, because Qualcomm gives you slightly better battery life and the edge is thinner, I guess. It's supposed to be their version of the MacBook Air. But here's the problem the MacBook Air, even though Apple was previously known as the expensive company that makes computers, the Acabook Air is like $700 cheaper than the entry-level edge. So when you can buy a MacBook Air for a lot less money, and Apple definitely has much better support and battery life on their laptops than Windows, it's kind of hard if this is your only laptop for me to tell you to go out and buy it. If you're a Galaxy user, maybe, but guess what? Now that Airdrop works between your Galaxy book and your your I mean, sorry, your MacBook and your Galaxy phone, you can go buy a MacBook and have a Galaxy phone at the same time. True. Now that now that Airdrop works, I use Airdrop all the time with my S26 Ultra to my MacBook Pro. As long as I'm not transferring massive files, it's working good. Yeah. So I'm excited about it. I probably will try to get one if Samsung will send me one for review. Um if they don't, I don't know because it's a lot of money. I already bought this one and I don't need I don't need 10 Windows laptops. I usually only have one because I use it as my coding laptop, which I use with all my AI Claude and Codecs and all that to build for the website and stuff. That way a lot of my MacBook stays kind of my editing machine. I got coding on Windows, creativity, and you know, other stuff on my Mac. But that's a lot. All right. Well, let's take a quick break. We talked about all the leaks. Uh we come back, we'll talk about some assorted topics, uh including jumping into a little bit more uh Of some things that have been going on with Samsung in terms of their labor. There's some labor strikes going on in Korea. People are mad. Oh, yeah. They're real mad. But before we do that, we're going to

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Newsletters Plug And Q1 Earnings

SPEAKER_00 45:15

Podcast. All right, everybody, we are back. And um, I thought we'd do in the second half as I've got our weekly newsletter up, which by the way, shameless plug. If you're not subscribed to the newsletter, make sure you subscribe to not only the weekly newsletter, but also the daily newsletter. Yeah. Because we do both now. If you want to stay up to date with what Samsung is doing every day, we'll send you a round apart for our freshest stories that are covered in the last 24 hours. We publish about 20 pieces a day now. So there's a lot of news. You know, we'll we'll send you a summary of everything we've covered in the last 24 hours. But if you just want to get hit up, you know, with that weekly action, you just want to get a summary of the whole week condensed for you, you can sign up for the weekly newsletter. So I'll have the links to those in the show notes if you guys want to check them out. But I figured we'd just go through all the top stories. Some of these we've already talked about, but the ones we haven't, we'll go through. So the first one we haven't talked about yet, Samsung's quarter one 2026 earnings hit an all-time high. Uh, Korean won, $57.2 trillion is what they're valued at in Korean won. Korean. Not dollars, but Korean wand. That's a lot of quiche. A lot of quiche. Right there. But I mean, remember, this is uh all the divisions together. Oh, true. Most of it is due to memory. This is not just mobile. Most of this is because Samsung sells chips and RAM and all that stuff themselves. And since the prices have skyrocketed, they're benefiting from that because they're the ones selling it. It's great to be the seller when the prices go up. Oh, true. Not to be the buyer. Um, but there you go. Uh Samsung was named uh one of Time's 10 most influential hardware companies. Time reportedly labels Samsung as the consumer tech king, reinforcing its influence across phones, TVs, chips, and the broader device ecosystem.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

I mean, it really is. I mean, like uh for average consumers, being honest, he can go into Best Buy, uh like you want Samsung. Most people say, I want Samsung, I want Samsung, I want Samsung. Uh every now and again you might hear um the it's like two letters E and LG. Yeah, yeah, yeah. LG.

SPEAKER_00 47:10

Yeah, I mean the thing is about Samsung that what they're saying here is is that unlike Apple, Samsung is in every corner of Best Buy. They're not just in a couple corners. You really are washer dryer, Samsung. You can buy a laptop, a TV, a washer, a dryer, a refrigerator, an oven, a phone, a tablet, a watch, a smart ring, headphones, literally everything, and not only the items themselves, but the chips that go in those items and run them are made by Samsung Electronics as well. That's crazy. And then they sell, of course, their own chips to other brands too. A lot of the times you don't even realize that your device is probably running something made by Samsung. All you iPhone users out there who say, Oh, I don't like Samsung. Well, your display is made by Samsung because Apple buys all of their panels from Samsung display. So you do like Samsung. They make the best panels, mobile panels in the world. Every single iPhone 17 Pro Max has a Samsung display on it. They make the best panels, OLED panels that go on mobile devices. So Samsung is everywhere. Unlike Apple or Google, who make devices that are specific mainly to mobile. You know, Apple obviously has some services too, but they mainly make computers, tablets, uh, you know, airpods, iPhones, stuff like that. They don't make all the other stuff that goes in your house outside of your portable electronics. Um Samsung

Labor Tension And Restructure Rumors

SPEAKER_00 48:30

spin-off talk surface amid rising labor tensions. This is what I talked about before the break. Discussion reportedly includes a potential DS and DX split, suggesting internal restructuring ideas may be back on the table. This would be a little scary if Samsung restructures their internal divisions and the device experience people split off from some of the other divisions. That could be bad for mobile because sometimes when they're having a bad time, some of those other divisions prop them up in terms of the numbers. And you know, Samsung kind of analyzes things based on the overall numbers right now, but if they split up the divisions into smaller increments, those are gonna be individually scrutinized by their profits. And because of the RAM crisis, mobile might might not make a profit this year, which we talked about before. That'd be no bueno in Estadia, as they say in Espanol. No bueno on this day. Not good, not good. Um Google Messages issue. So some galaxy users, but not only galaxy users, Android users in general. So Tori, if you use Google Messages, which I know you do, yeah, Samsung Messages is now gone. Yeah, no, yeah. So you don't have a you don't have a damn choice. They said, screw you and your choice, you're gonna use Google Messages. Uh, they're reporting disappearing chats, and there's no official solution from Google or Samsung yet. This is happening on various Android devices, including Pixels as well.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

I do know,

Google Messages Chats Disappearing

SPEAKER_03 49:50

like, if they're not saved, and after about two or three weeks or so, they start to just disappear. They're not supposed to, though. I know.

SPEAKER_00 50:01

Has that really been happening to you?

SPEAKER_03 50:02

Oh, yeah. That's not like I know I texted this person. I just didn't say the number. Yeah, that's not supposed to be happening. That's part of this one. Brand new, like, you know, there's nothing, there's no prior history there.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

Google's been listening to that song. Abra, abra, cadabra.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:18

I'm gonna reach out and grab you. They've been listening to a lot of songs and making some stuff disappear. Uh-huh. Like, I'm gonna pull a rabbit out of hat, make your messages go back in the hole, and they're gone.

SPEAKER_03 50:34

Boom. Which again, like, I mean, it's it's quite annoying, and I'm pretty sure most average consumers, I mean just people in general, because you're like, it'd be like me and I'm on the go a lot, and I have time to like save your number, you know, like, and if what three weeks later now it's gone.

SPEAKER_00 50:51

And it was disappointing because just like I told you last week, uh, Kenyan Prince told me that I won $80 million before I had a chance to text him back to send him the $350 to claim it, message was gone. I couldn't get touched with it.

SPEAKER_03 51:03

Yeah, message was gone.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 51:05

Dang. That's a shame.

SPEAKER_00 51:07

Because I was gonna, I was gonna, I had plans for that $80 million. I was gonna do stuff with it. Big things, huge things.

SPEAKER_03 51:14

The hugest of things.

SPEAKER_00 51:15

Um they're gonna be massive. Everyone's everyone's talking about the things that I was gonna do.

Trifold Hype And Repair Reality

SPEAKER_00 51:20

They're gonna be fantastic things, okay? One of the things I was gonna do is build a ballroom for Sammy Guru. We need one. A lot more space to do stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah, no, I know. Um Galaxy Z Trifold, which I actually happen to have right here. I'm one of the few people on the face of this planet that have one. Um the panel's been recognized with the industry's top honor earning display of the year. A major announcement for a major endorsement for their next gen foldable ambitions. And I will say, it is quite innovative. You can't say that this isn't innovative. A phone that folds three times. And look how thin it is when it's unfolded. Wow. It just blows your mind, Tori, when you see it. Truly, it's such a nice piece. And so these are not discontinued, you know. Um, you know, luckily I'm not looking to profit off mine, but even in used condition, mine is not the US model, but these are selling on eBay for like four thousand forty five hundred now, which is more than I even paid for it. So if I wanted to cash in on a profit, technically I could. People are paying a lot of money for these because Samsung is not Samsung is not making them anymore. I know they've been discontinued.

SPEAKER_03 52:32

So if I had the money.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

The new ones in the box, like the US models are going for like 6K. If you but if you have the US model, this is the Korean model that I bought. But if you have the US model and it's sealed, 5,500 to 6k is what they're selling for on eBay. Which is twice what people paid for them.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

Yeah. Which That's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_00 52:52

I don't recommend anyone do that. I mean, unless you're someone just has like crazy money. Like I'm doing pretty well. I wouldn't even do that because it's stupid. Because what if it breaks? Samsung doesn't even offer Samsung care on it.

SPEAKER_03 53:03

Yes. What are you gonna do with it then?

SPEAKER_00 53:04

Then you're gonna have to buy another phone for another $1,500 because you're not gonna have a phone. Uh and this phone, it while it is, it's not I'm not scared it's gonna break, but it's it's got two different hinges on it. It's a yes, it's a folding thing that's really thin when it's unfolded. You could easily break this. I I know. And if you do, the repair, the repair of the inner display is like 2k. And that's already almost the cost of the phone, and they don't offer Samsung care on it, so you can't get a replacement for a cheap copay, and no one's you know. I guess maybe actually I didn't look into this. You might be able to get insurance through one of those third-party insurance things. Maybe I should do that on mine. It's not a bad idea. There are these things that hit offer third-party insurance plans like on phones. I wonder if they would insure the trifold. Because honestly, for twenty dollars a month, it might be worth it, considering the probability that one of these things could potentially have an issue. Yeah. Two thousand bucks for a screen replacement, that's crazy.

Patent Lawsuit And AI Phone Talk

SPEAKER_00 54:05

Um foldable patent lawsuits target Samsung. A US firm accuses Samsung of infringing on foldable patents with a lawsuit seeking a potential US ban on certain products. Um this is not likely to hold up. I don't think there's any chance that this is actually gonna hold up, but this is a story that was, you know, brought about. Uh Lepton is the name of the company. They allege infringement in software features, including app continuity. Um, they're suing Samsung um for damages, Lepton Computing LLC. But Samsung's been doing this for so long, and unfortunately, when you're fighting a big name like Samsung legally, it's very hard to win because you know they got a lot of money. And when it comes to winning litigation, sometimes it's about who has the most money. Because even if you have a claim, even if you have a claim, right? You got you gotta be willing to litigate it to the end. Yeah, you do. And if the other side has a lot of money, they can just keep filing appeals. They can just keep filing appeals and extensions and motions and basically until you run out of money and then you can't continue fighting the appeals and motions. That's how a lot of these big companies win. Sometimes, even if they're in the wrong, like Apple, Samsung, Google, all these massive companies, they don't necessarily need to be in the right. They just keep spending because they have they have a billion dollar a year legal budget, yeah. And it's easy to not have to ever go to court. Yeah. So then you don't have to worry about just discontinuing selling your foldables. So I don't think that's gonna end up holding up, but no, I don't think so either. Oh, chat GPT company, their their parent company, OpenAI, they're working on their own smartphone to compete with Samsung and Apple and Google. The Chat GPT phone, so to speak.

SPEAKER_03 55:53

I don't think we're ready for that.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

Will be coming. And they're gonna make it agent first, which I think is a huge mistake. Uh they're targeting a 2028 release. Oh, I see. I see. Agent first, which means they're basically gonna build the phone for what your AI agent would like and not what you would like as the human. They're gonna make it easier for your AI, your chat GPT agents to use the phone and the software versus building it for you, the person to use it. No, I'll name people. That's not gonna be a winner. I'm sorry. I mean, people are saying eventually we could be in the situation where agent first is useful for software because AI is using software more than humans. That might be true, but hardware, humans are still gonna use their phones for connecting with other humans. At least I hope. If we get to the point where everyone just has an AI girlfriend or boyfriend, and you know, they're having intercourse with AI dolls or something, then I guess that could be the case. But by then I'll have already offed myself because that's not a reality I want to live in, so I won't be here to see it. The rest of you guys can have fun with that. But uh, if that's the eventuality we're on to, I won't be around to see it. I can tell you that right now. Um, yeah, no, no. But hopefully not. You know, hopefully that's not the case. And then, you know, people are gonna want to have hardware that's made for them and not for AI. Software, if it's like business software, like I understand Notion is trying to build their software to make it easier for AI agents to use because increasingly people are using AI to automate stuff on their business, so that's fine. But my phone, I still want that made for me first. What I want, not what AI wants. I don't care what AI wants when it comes to my phone hardware. Um, more Galaxy Z fold, wide fold leaks. We talked about those last week. 4-3 inner display, ultra-thin build. That really big, thick design. Oh, yeah, it's really good. I like thick folds, and I will not lie. You other brothers can't deny that when that fold walks in with a really big cover display, you get sprung.

SPEAKER_02 57:58

Shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it.

SPEAKER_00 58:00

Anyway, uh yeah, I mean, I don't know. I'm still I have to get it in hand, but I still don't feel like I'm gonna like it as much as the regular Z fold eight, but you know, we'll take a peek at that. We'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

Um in London.

SPEAKER_00 58:14

Yeah, exactly. When in win in Rome, do as the Romans do, and when in London, do as the Londoners do. Yes, yes, do as the London does. Doing as the king does, you know, that's what I say. Yep. And he was here this week visiting the US. Shout out to King Charles. I know he listens to the podcast, of course.

SPEAKER_03 58:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's an avid listener.

SPEAKER_00 58:32

He listens to the Sami Group podcast all the time.

SPEAKER_03 58:34

Very avid listening.

SPEAKER_00 58:35

He's like, oh, I have a spot of tea and listen to the Sami Group podcast. It's my British accent. It's really bad. Um we talked about the Galaxy Glasses appearing in July. Well, there was an app update. Samsung had the design of the first gen glasses in that app, so that's another piece of evidence that we could see this. So um they did an app update, and there was a little thing that said the app had been, I forgot what up there. Let me just click on it. You guys are like, how do you not know this? Well, Jeff, come on, man. I we published like 400 articles a week, and I I read and approve through things, but like, how am I supposed to know, remember exactly every app update? Um the it was nearby device scanning. So in the update, what's new, where Samsung puts what's new in the update, it puts support glasses, quick pair, and battery pop-up. Oh, yeah. And so basically, this is the app that lets you pair your Bluetooth devices to your phone. So obviously, this is huge evidence that the glasses are probably coming in July. Because why else would they already have this updated for them? Because this this usually gets updated like when the Buds 4 Pro just came out. They they got added to this app like a month before they released. So these are already getting added earlier than the Buds 4 Pro did. So probably we're gonna see the glasses as a result of that.

SPEAKER_03 59:47

Yeah, I think so too.

SPEAKER_00 59:48

Uh Exynos 2700 rumors, improved cooling, a reported bandwidth boost 30, 40 percent. Samsung's still not gonna put them in the S27 Ultra. Every year we hear that they might put the Exynos in the Ultra. It's not gonna happen in the US. If you if you want to be in the lesson, I'll tell you right now, you know, like I said, you know, if Cauchy will take my bet or polymarket, I'll put all my net worth on the S27 Ultra in the US, not having the Xynos 2700. I'll take I'll take literally all my liquidity in my bank accounts, even my investment accounts, everything I got, and I'll park it on that bet because I'm so sure. I'm that sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:29

Oh wow, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:30

Yeah, I'll even I'll even take uh I'll even take relatively you know bad odds. I think the odds are pretty good that it's all snapdragon, but I'll uh so I'll take really bad odds and I'll still park it, you know. Oh my come on, hit me up, guys. Someone at Cal Shear Polymarket, you guys want to take that bet.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:45

Why not?

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

You know, let me just make a free yeah, free 10 to 15. Thousand, a couple hundred. Um, what else we got? Uh 2026 foldables appear as dummy units, so it's kind of the same design. We already saw, but they just show the dummy units because the case manufacturers have them, which reminds me I got to get back to my suppliers because I need to order the mystery box cases. They told me they're finally ready for uh order, which makes sense. That's why the dummy units are out because they have to test the cases on the dummy units to make sure they fit. Um the S26 Ultra versus iPhone 17 Pro Max. The S26 Ultra came ahead out in a uh came out ahead in a speed test with performance behavior changing over time between the two devices. So basically it was like an app opening test and like general, you know, performing different tasks with AI as well, like AI-based tasks. And the S26 Ultra kind of curb stomped the iPhone 17 Pro Max. I mean, there's a couple little caveats. You you can certainly read the article, it'll be linked in the show notes. But the S26 Ultra performed admirably, especially considering how well Apple has their processor tuned for their internal tasks, but just shows you for some stuff that's not necessarily internal to Apple apps, um Samsung and and Qualcomm can keep up, especially with AI. Yeah. When it comes, if you're using AI to actually do work and not using it to do other silly stuff. Yes. Like some I saw somebody was saying that they used ChatGPT to get directions, and I was like, what are you doing? Why are you not using Google Maps? Yeah, like something like Google Maps. They're like, I use ChatGPT for everything. I even use it to get directions. Well, you're probably gonna be lost a lot because it's not good for not useful for that. Um Samsung's 2026 frame TVs are now available in the US. Not really a lot to say about that. They're just there if you want a frame TV. Um they're they're nice. Uh, we have one in my living room. You've seen it, Tori. The frame TV. There it is. Um, Samsung prepares. Oh, this was we didn't talk when we talked about the edge earlier, we didn't mention this story. Samsung's apparently preparing Galaxy books that run Android. So they're gonna release a Galaxy book that runs one UI9. They're testing them. It was in spot, it was spotted um uh internally being tested. So this is interesting because Google was rumored to start replacing Chrome OS and merging it with Android. So could it be that Google is gonna finally merge Chrome OS with Android and Samsung could be one of the first partners to release one of these new laptops that runs this new Android desktop OS or Android laptop OS? Yeah, that could be very interesting. Yeah, that could be. I don't think those are gonna come with Unpacked, because those don't seem like an unpacked July kind of product. Probably more like maybe around time they released the tab S12, like in September, October. Yeah, maybe it could be ready around there. Yeah. That seems like a more reasonable timeline where they might release it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

Um let's say increase the hype and it'll come.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, if you build it, they will come. That's what they said. In the field of dreams. That's what they said in the field of dreams. Um, the second April 2026 update, which is just rolling out to the S26 Ultra for S26 Ultra users, it's not on the unlocked US models yet. Thanks a lot, Samsung. It's only on the carrier locked models. Oh, okay. So I don't have it. But supposedly it fixes some of the camera processing issues, um, which is good. So if you're waiting on that, if you have an S26, then you're good to go. Uh, Samsung Members app got a new 1U8.5 redesign where it has the overlay that shows you like the menu overlay on the bottom. Uh, not that you can really enjoy that because you don't have 1U8.5 yet because they didn't roll it out yesterday like they were supposed to. Hopefully, I will soon. But maybe one day you'll we'll have it. It'll like someday over the rainbow. Oh, wait, that's somewhere over the rainbow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:34

I think it is too.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:34

So I'm working on my songs, but you know, you gotta get the whole song. You gotta get the song right.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:37

Hey, you know, just keep practicing. I'm working, you

Samsung Cloud Return Wallet Trips

SPEAKER_03 1:04:40

know. Keep practicing. I'm working home on the way back to the office.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:43

I'm practicing for Broadway, you know, once we get done with the podcast and they're doing an audition. Uh Samsung Cloud is returning, they're getting rid of OneDrive. So you're no longer gonna see OneDrive in your gallery on your Samsung phone, which a lot of people are happy about, including me, because I don't use OneDrive. Samsung Cloud, I think, is better, although I back up everything to Google Drive anyway, because I use Google Photos.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:03

Yeah, I feel like, yeah, like my stuff normally goes.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:05

But I like having Samsung Cloud as a separate option because I don't really ever log into Microsoft's services aside from Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. Microsoft wants you to use all their stuff, but I only use their Office apps. That's all I've ever used. I'm not using OneNote, I'm not using Outlook. Yeah. Since I left GCU, I don't use Outlook. Um, that's what they use there, but I never use it since I left. Um Samsung Wallet adds a trips feature. So a new trips feature uh gathers eligible travel items into one unified view for smoother planning. So you've got like your ticket, you've got like your itinerary, like you've got a bunch of op you know, stuff they can pull in. Like it's got like some bus passes, like some ferry passes if you're about something with water. So you can't do it. So that way you can get all your stuff there, your trip, all in one spot. So if you got like your hotel information, it'll all get imported there, you know, all that'll be there in one spot for you to look at.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:53

I mean, even like I know we were talking about earlier about like sprawling cities and whatnot, but like when you think about uh the metro uh Um train here. You all went digital tickets now. Yeah. And so like to be able to have something like that. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:06

These digital wallets are more useful if you live in a big city and you do take public transit, because then you're using it every day. For me on the other hand, I mean, since I don't really take public transit that often, I I'm only using it when I travel, but still useful because I'm traveling more now for business. Having your passes for your, you know, if you're gonna travel locally, you're taking transit, and then also having your flight and your ticket for your airline ticket in there. And then you also can now put your license in Samsung Wallet as well. You can have your Arizona license in there. So I have my ID there. Everything is in one spot, um, which I really like. Um, what else we got? We're almost through all the news here. Uh Galaxy S10 got a surprise update. The S10 is very old. It's a security update, so no new features. But that kind of surprised me. That was a piece of news. I was like, wow, I didn't know this Galaxy S10 would ever get another update. So you know, shout out to you guys, S10 users. You guys had to be pretty pretty psyched about that because I think that's a huge win.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:02

Yeah, I think so too.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:03

Uh YouTube added side-by-side ads on mobile live stream. Isn't that exciting? Now you can have ads on both on your regular videos and your live streams. So while you're watching a live stream, the ad will just pop up next to it. So you can watch an ad while you're watching a live stream. Make Google some more sweet, sweet money. That's what it's all about, ladies and gentlemen. Um, we published a bunch of great camera guides. Uh, our writer, W Vision, who's like our camera expert, he's wrote some great guides. You guys should go to check them out. He wrote one about capturing fast motion uh with your S26 Ultra. Um, and he also talked about in that article about how to use Expert Raw to use the dedicated action mode. Uh, he also talked about the full expert raw walkthrough, uh, how to use it to get better control of your photos uh beyond the auto mode when you take photos on auto. So if you're a real camera enthusiast or you've got kids or pets, definitely go check out his couple articles. I mean, they're not news articles, they're tutorials, and they're quite long and detailed. Um, but I highly recommend checking that out if you're someone who likes to take a lot of photos with your Galaxy phone, which most people do, you know. Yeah, you should check them out too, Tori. You know, give them a shot. No, no, don't you? No, no, you might want to give it a shot. Um, what else we got? Oh, YouTube TV rolls out customizable multi-view. So now you can watch like up to four different channels at the same time if you have YouTube TV. It's kind of cool. I guess that's useful. Uh, Google might copy Samsung entirely, so you know Samsung might copy Google with the camera layout. Google is now planning a new feature for the Pixel, which allegedly could be called wait for it. Waiting, wait for it. Drum rolling. Wait for it. I gotta find it because I lost my spot. It's called Daily Brief, which kind of sounds like now brief.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

Yeah, I guess on the now brief, but it doesn't do anything.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:52

Yeah, so they're gonna basically try to take the now brief and make it for pixel phones, and they're gonna call it daily brief. Basically the same side personalized dashboard. Yeah, so I can do that. You know, if you're gonna buy Pixel 11, just go ahead and wait. It's gonna come. You're gonna see your daily briefing when you buy your Pixel 11, and you'll be all set and you'll be on your way. Um the S26 Ultra was named Best Smartphone in Consumer Rankings um by a couple of top consumer ranking agencies, especially things in Europe in particular. So congratulations, Samsung. You're a giant winner today, which is awesome. And I love that. Uh and then the other big story is OnePlus, which is um one of the biggest Android brands in the US for a long time since I started doing YouTube. They actually launched the year

OnePlus Exit Motorola Tease Wrap

SPEAKER_00 1:09:45

that I started YouTube in 2013 out of 2014. Um they're now done. So Oppo, who is their parent company, they're consolidating OnePlus and Realme, which are their one of their other sub brands in China. Yeah. And OnePlus is gonna cease to exist. They're not gonna make phones in the US anymore. So another one bites the dust. Another one less Samsung competitor. Basically, in the US, the only companies left making phones that are of any consequence are Samsung, Apple, Google, and Motorola. Those are the only four. Outside of that, there really is nothing in the US. Those are your four choices. Um, Motorola is, you know, maybe we should talk about this next week because we're towards the end of the show. So I'm gonna put this on my list for next week. Okay. Motorola just had their launch event this week, and they unveiled all their new phones for this year, and they released their own competitor to the Galaxy Z Fold 7, Z Fold 8, a book style foldable, and all their flip phones, which remember I gave you a Motorola flip phone. Yeah, she did, yeah. Their flip phones are good and they've gotten a lot better. Their Razer Ultra is just insanely good, potentially better than the flip eight. So Motorola is quietly taking market share from Samsung in foldables.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:59

And not just in international markets in the US, too. And so Samsung might want to watch their back because they might they might turn around and they might have a problem with foldables in the market in being number one, not just from Apple, but maybe from Android from an Android competitor.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:18

I mean, because I mean, like they basically had to run on it for a very long time.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:21

Yeah, every single time. But the Motorola is making some good ones, plus they have good branding. Because remember, everybody remembers the Razer from back in the day, the old school Razer. And that's a valuable brand that people remember being very positive. So having that brand is good because people are like, oh, I remember I had a Razer. And then they go and check out the Razer, the flip version, and it's actually good. And they're like, maybe I should go back to that Motorola nostalgia. And yeah, we'll look at the numbers next week and comb through it and go through their lineup because I think Motorola could potentially finally, you know, it's been like probably 10 years since they actually competed against Samsung in the standard slab phone market. Samsung's just killed everybody in Android for 10 years now. Uh LG left, HTC left, Motorola. Motorola basically left. So all these and Sony left, everybody basically left because Samsung just stomped them into the ground. But Motorola could be planning to come back and give Samsung a little competition, maybe not with the slap phones, but maybe with the foldables. Because they got some good products. I mean, we'll go through their lineup next week and run down what they released. Because they released a lot of stuff, and we'll talk about how it compares and also maybe preview a little bit of what Apple's planning to do because there's been some more news about Apple's plans for this year. And we're only about four months away from Apple's release, which is the beginning of September. So we're getting close. Um, and of course, I'm sure we'll have some more leaks and other fun stuff. And hey, maybe next week when we sit down, Tori will be downloading 1U8.5. I could be. Maybe. I mean I'm definitely not there into the universe. I'm definitely not gonna put my net worth, my full liquidity on the line for that. Do you really think they might not deliver next week? I think it's certainly a non-zero possibility. I definitely wouldn't I wouldn't bet everything I own for sure, and I wouldn't even bet I wouldn't even bet any more than a hundred on it. I think it's likely that they probably push it out this week. So I probably bet a hundred on it because I'm a guy who likes to gamble. And if I think the odds are at least better than 50%, I'll put 100 on it. But I wouldn't want to put like a thousand plus on it because I think there's at least a 40% chance that they don't. Because you know, Samsung does crazy stuff. So, you know, they're very unpredictable company. Not a company you really want to bet a lot of money on. Okay. They could do just about anything. Yeah. Sometimes I think they don't even know what they're gonna do. Um, but this week, you know, make sure that whatever you do, you keep expanding your galaxy.