SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
Galaxy Ring Expansion Woes + More One UI 8.5 Leaks!
We dig into a scary Galaxy Ring battery swelling incident and what likely caused it, then pivot to Galaxy XR timing, S26 Ultra design and features, and meaningful One UI 8.5 changes that will shape daily use. We also call out a surprising jump in Galaxy Watch sleep scores, big Keys Cafe upgrades, trifold timing, and a pragmatic look at Android’s sideloading rules.
• context for the Galaxy Ring swelling incident and safety guidance
• why saltwater, altitude and a weak cell matter for smart rings
• Galaxy XR timing, price expectations and Gemini as a killer angle
• S26 Ultra design shift, camera expectations and privacy display
• One UI 8.5 highlights including notification summaries and UI polish
• lineup naming churn: Pro, Edge, Plus and consumer confusion
• Fold 7 pulling Ultras: usage patterns and multitasking value
• sideloading changes on Android: verification vs lock‑down
• Galaxy Watch sleep scores jumping and algorithm questions
• Keys Cafe’s biggest update: gestures, stats and real usability
• trifold unveiling window and US availability unknowns
• Tab S11 Linux app support and the missing premium keyboard
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Welcome back, everybody. This is episode number 46 of the Sammy Google Podcast. My name is Jeff Springer. With me as always, my co-host Tori. Tori, say hi. Hey, how's it going? And uh yeah, it's been quite a a week here in the Samsung world. Uh, we're gonna talk about it. Samsung might be in a little hot water, like a little note seven fiasco repeat happening with a product. Some very dangerous things happen. We're gonna talk about whether that was a one-off or not. Those of you who follow the site, follow the news religiously, probably know that a very popular YouTuber had his Galaxy Ring battery expand while it was on his finger. Not good. We're gonna get into the details of that story. But Tori and a lot more. There's a lot of stuff going on in Samsung World. But Tori, how was your week?
SPEAKER_00:Uh week is going uh pretty well uh overall, I'll say. Finally got to try that. You ever you ever been to the Henry?
SPEAKER_03:I have not, but it's right down here. Yeah. And it's right, I drive by it every day because you know I live pretty close now, just a little bit north. I drive by that restaurant every day, and I actually thought that it looked pretty interesting.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, it's uh it's it's kind of pricey. That uh I got the scallops uh for 36 bucks. Oh yeah. Um but it was actually really, really good. Yeah, yeah. So if you ever get a chance, you you Nicole.
SPEAKER_03:When did you go to the Henry?
SPEAKER_00:Uh I went uh yesterday.
SPEAKER_03:Yesterday?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go.
SPEAKER_03:Well, tonight we're gonna hang out. We gotta get some food somewhere.
SPEAKER_00:I know. We're uh what's it called? One battle after another.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, one battle after another.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, it got great reviews. I've actually really excited.
SPEAKER_03:I've looked at the times though. Have you looked at the times? I have nothing. I figured we could either see that or the long walk. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The only thing about one after another, I want to see it, but I didn't realize it's three hours long. Me either.
SPEAKER_00:So depending on that's a lot of Leonardo DiCaprio. I mean, I don't mind it. Yeah, me either.
SPEAKER_03:But me and Tori are gonna go to the card shop. Tori's gotta pick up some One Piece, uh top some more Pokemon Mega Evolutions. Me and Jonathan opened a few boxes last week. We did okay, but we're still on that chase for that gold. Yeah, we're on a gold rush. Jonathan's got gold fever, so I might pick up a new box, and then we gotta get some dinner. So we'll see what the times look like after we do that. And who knows, you know, how long we're gonna wax poetic on some Samsung news. You never know. Yeah, yeah, no. Never know how long the put the Samsung pod is gonna go. Yeah, no, never know.
SPEAKER_00:But I mean, yeah, no, overall, uh week has been good. Tori's on his break. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fall break. Start a break at the grades in, and uh, you know, we'll see what next week. We'll hold I'll be spending some time in the Sami Guru office.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah, Tori's gonna be hanging out here next week, getting some things organized while he's not at the high school, just you know, working a little bit part-time at the Sammy Guru while he's yeah on break, probably answering some emails from some kids. Like, Mr.
SPEAKER_00:I didn't know I was failing. Yeah, I know. I yeah, you should have told me that in person. Yeah, yeah. You know, towards the end, uh they're like, hey, uh, what can I do really quick to get my grade? Really quick. Yeah. Boom. I was like, uh snap your fingers. Literally nothing.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe you think about how you're gonna put in a great effort when you get back from the break. Yes, yeah. Because right now there's still enough time so that you won't be failing when the end of the semester happens or quarters, right? Quarters, yeah. You still have time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, still got time.
SPEAKER_03:Time to go, but you know, think about you know, meditate on how you're gonna execute, visualize the execution when you get back because there's nothing you can do right now. Holy grace, activate. There you go. Uh Alabama beat Georgia. I was really happy about that. You know, I think our guy, Calen DeBore, may have finally figured out how it is coaching in the SEC. He's got some discipline. The team looked motivated, they looked prepared. Uh, our quarterback is blossoming into a superstar, it looks like, which is great. It helps that finally Ty Simpson looks like the actual quarterback he was when they recruited him. This guy looks really good now. Yeah. I mean, I'm excited about Alabama's chances. I definitely think we have a very good shot. I mean, let's be honest, we got a grueling schedule. We still got seven more ranked opponents on the schedule, including Vanderbilt this week, who also looks like a beast, and they beat us last year. Their quarterback is absolutely insane. Uh, Pava, right, is his name. Yeah, yeah. He's insane. And he beat us last year. So we got a long way to go, but that is a home game tomorrow. And so we already went to Georgia and got a big win. I I feel like we got a good chance. I mean some tough teams. You got LSU, very tough teams. You know, you've got Oklahoma. You're gonna have to win some big games, but I certainly feel more optimistic about this team than I did when we showed up for the first game against Florida State and absolutely crapped the bed and did not look prepared for the season at all. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no. Yeah, I think so too. Uh I was gonna say, did you hear about uh, you know, because uh uh I've been going to all the Mercury games and the finals. Yeah, yeah. So in the finals playing the Ace, I believe.
SPEAKER_03:And yeah, I don't know if you know it, Tori, but actually while we're here, uh I placed a better I placed a bet on the WNBA. Yeah, I don't usually place a lot of WNBA bets, but it's the finals. Oh yeah. And so you gotta get in on the action when it's the finals. And so I placed a bet, uh, a couple parlays, you know, some rebounds and stuff on you know, I like to do parlay. I like to do props when it's uh basketball. I don't typically do, you know, I don't typically do like straight up bets in in basketball because props are more fun. Yeah, it's a fast-paced game. There's so many props to bet on too. Points, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, there's all kinds of stuff you can bet on. And it's just fun to watch the game because it evolves so quickly. Yeah, whereas with football, you know, I mean, it's fun to bet on props as well, and I do, but you know, if you bet on a receiver to get over 50 yards, he might not get a target, but like once a quarter or twice a quarter, it's not like every single possession you've got a chance. But yeah, in basketball, if you bet on a player to get a certain number of three pointers, every possession, that guy could make a three-pointer. Yeah, yeah. So they got that going on right now, the game, in fact. Yeah, they do. I just checked the score here on my parlay. The one thing I don't like about it on FanDuel though is they don't show you the sliders in basketball, like they do with NBA. The women's, they don't have the up-to-date stats. Oh, interesting. That just shows you the sexism that even in sport, it proliferates into sports betting. But the Mercury is winning right now 19 to 12.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what's pulling up.
SPEAKER_03:And I was the other thing that's very strange to me, Tori, is that how can the Mercury be playing the aces when they're both in the same division in the finals? Like, in the NBA, like it's the East Coast versus the West Conference. I mean, even though sometimes the teams are a little bit blurred as to, you know, like, for instance, like New Orleans is is in the east or something, and they're not really in the east coast, I don't think they but I mean, you know what I mean. But Las Vegas and Phoenix, they're like right next to each other. Yeah, yeah, right next to each other. I go to Las Vegas all the time. It's like a four-hour drive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Or are you saying they're gonna go ahead? Oh no, uh no, no, no. I was saying is uh it was notified, or I think it was yesterday or the day before, that it's changing again to mortgage matchup arena. Jesus, man.
SPEAKER_03:They just this the Phoenix Suns, they change the name of their arena every single day. You know, it's just about they switch it out like it's a bumper sticker on their car. They're just like, I don't like this bumper sticker anymore. Rip it off, yeah, put a new one on there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. Like, no, then it was I forgot what it was like right before. Talking stickers, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Talking stickers, they're like, don't worry, we can put up a new sign. It only costs a couple hundred thousand dollars. Yeah. You know, it's just like nip off the head sticker.
SPEAKER_00:Hey no, they're like, look, we're getting all this mercury money right now uh to keep it going. I mean, but I just also saw that um for the Suns, um, they're they're hoping to make a big season comeback.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, they're hoping.
SPEAKER_03:Oh well, I got my orange phone ready for the sun season already. I know. Yeah, my orange iPhone.
SPEAKER_00:Uh most people I've seen now with the iPhones, they have that color. Oh, they have the what what blue color is it? What's the name of the blue? Deep blue. Deep blue.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, nut or deep blue. That's the color I have of the smaller bro. But uh this color is nice. I do like it. Yeah, I know it is. All right. Well, that was a long intro today, but we always like talking a little bit of shop before we get into the real business. And let's jump right into the news. We got a lot of it. Let's do it. Um, so uh earlier this week, on Monday, I believe, there was a story. This broke over on Twitter, over on X, where I like to hang out. Um and uh a YouTuber, another YouTuber whose name Zone of Tech is his channel. His name's Daniel, he was attending the Snapdragon Summit, which we talked about last week, and of course, as you know, that's in Hawaii. Yeah, and so he was flying back. You know, I didn't get to go this year, even though they invited me, I just didn't have the time, probably next year. Uh he was flying back from Hawaii, I don't remember where he lives, but flying back to the main land, as they call it in Hawaii, mainland of the US. And so it's a long flight. And he was boarding his flight at the airport in Honolulu and uh his galaxy ring, which he's wearing one of the silver galaxy rings, the battery started expanding and it was on his finger, and so it was so tight that his his his finger was getting like squeezed by the ring, and his finger was squeezing, he couldn't get it off. Oh my. And so because he was, you know, responsible, he alerted the flight crew um that this was happening, and unfortunately, they would not let him stay on the flight because obviously the battery they thought you know that could be dangerous to other people's passengers if it explodes or whatever. Obviously, they don't want his obviously they don't want anything to happen to his hand, yeah, but it's already on his hand, they can't endanger the other people. So they told him he had to get off the flight, or he wouldn't be able to get on the flight. And so they got him to an emergency room locally in Hawaii, and I guess using some medical grade lubricant uh and some other techniques, they didn't have to cut it, they just used some like really high grade, there's like medical lubricant that you can get that they have, and they got it off finally. Uh, but his finger looks not great. Um and you can see you can see the swelling. You see here, I'm showing Tori the pictures. You see how it all swells up here on this ridge, and you can see the redness of his finger there. And actually, if we take a look on X, you can see actually a little bit more detail um as to how his finger kind of swole up. It's right here, actually. This is he posted an update of this. Oh wow. Um and so, yeah, it really dug into his finger there. Um and so he provided some other context to this. First of all, very scary. Very scary. I mean, as you can see, I took my galaxy ring off and put back on my regular wedding ring. I was a little scared. I've got on my regular platinum. I'll be scared too. I've got my regular platinum traditional band on because it doesn't have battery in it. This is the one Nicole got me when we got married. I threw that back on because I was like, dang, man, I don't know if I really want that. But some more context to this. So I wanted to provide some since this is obviously a big deal. First of all, Samsung has not issued an official statement. We reached out, I know SAP Mobile, Android Authority, a bunch of other, probably every outlet that covers tech reached out to them. They're probably going to issue an official statement. They're probably just gathering some facts and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did reach out to Daniel specifically to make sure he was okay. And, you know, who knows what else? They probably said, hey man, you want a little bit of money to maybe stop posting about that. Um but obviously this is an isolated incident. First of all, we haven't heard anybody of this about anyone else. This Galaxy Ring has been out now for 14 months. Yeah, it has been. And as much as I hate to say it, even in the absence of knowing anything else, and I'll give you some details about other things that he shared that perhaps can understand uh clarify maybe some reasons why this could have happened. This is a one out of several million case. Samsung obviously made at least a million of these. Um one out of a million is is obviously not good because it's very dangerous, but that's not really an unreasonable failure rate for a mass-produced product. Yeah right. The problem is that this is something you wear on your body. It's not like another piece of the battery expands. It's probably not gonna hurt you as long as it doesn't explode. Because batteries expand in phones all the time. I mean, it happens.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But they're you're not wearing them and it's not gonna restrict the blood flow on your finger and that kind of stuff. But he did share some things that kind of make me feel a little bit of uh a little bit, you know, uh safer to wear my own ring. Basically, he was swimming with this in saltwater in Hawaii. He already said the battery had been acting weird for several months. So that perhaps says that there was an issue with this particular battery beforehand. Not not that he should have thought that it was going to expand, no one would ever think that. And then also he had been on several other flights before this because this is actually one of his connecting flights. I was wrong, I forgot. This was not in Honolulu, he was already flew from Honolulu somewhere else and he was connecting. So altitude can also affect those batteries. And Samsung also says you shouldn't expose it to sea salt water. And he said he was swimming with it in Hawaii. So we've got a several confluence of factors. I'm not giving Samsung an excuse. Um but yeah, it's it's it's very uh interesting that this happened, and obviously it's um not good. I mean, I I certainly believe that uh that this is something Samsung has gotta looked into. Yeah, no, for sure. And obviously it's very scary, not just for Samsung, but for other smart rings as well, like Aura. I think this could easily happen with any smart ring. I don't think this is specifically a Samsung defect. Yeah. Um we've seen other YouTubers make these videos about Samsung batteries swelling more than others. I'm gonna be honest, I think that's complete BS because some of these guys, you know, here's the thing you can't leave batteries, you're not supposed to leave a cell phone battery, lithium ion battery, uncharged for a long time and then use it again. You can't leave it for years. Like Mr. Who's the boss made a video about how he like stores all his phones in a dedicated room. I mean, obviously he's doing much better than me as a whole room of phones. I only have like a I only have like a little drawers of phones. But the thing is I cycle through the phones I actually use. And so if I'm not using a phone and I'm not actually going to use it regularly, I don't store it in a state that's going to cause the battery to swell. There's specific there's specific handling instructions if you're going to store it, right? Yeah to the percentage you should have it charged and all that. And I've never had any of my Samsung batteries swell. He said that all of his other phones don't, but his Samsung batteries, he came to his phone room one day and they were all swollen. He made a video about it. I I don't know. I mean, I feel like, you know, obviously this is an unfortunate incident, but it also is not like it's not something that's he posted a couple of Reddit threads where other people had reported this, but still that's only a couple of uh people out of millions. Um and I I don't like it, obviously. But it's also not like his finger fell off. I mean he's got some redness. Yeah. And he did say in his post here on X, Samsung reached out, they refunded him for his hotel, they booked him a car to get home, and collected the ring from him for further investigation. So surely Samsung will investigate this, they'll issue a statement. Yeah, for sure. But I don't think it's on the level of the note seven fiasco where things were literally blowing up in people's hands and caused him serious, serious injuries. So obviously Samsung takes this very seriously because they don't want they don't want another Note 7 scenario. Um, you know, not just for the bad PR, but also because obviously they don't want people to get hurt, you know. But I I think this is an unfortunate isolated incident. It would be nice a lot of people, myself included, said, well, there should be a way for you to easily just like take it off if the battery swells. But then how are you gonna do that on your ring? Yeah, I mean they do confine the battery to only one side of the ring so that the other side won't swell. So technically you could still get it off with some lubricant, and I think that's what allowed them to do it in this case. But how are you really gonna make a way where you can easily get it off without lubricant or cutting it? It's a ring. Like otherwise you're gonna compromise the design, the day-to-day function of being able to wear the ring. So I I don't know. I mean, I don't think that's necessarily a reasonable it's possible. Yeah, I don't think that's a reasonable criticism. I even said the same thing originally, but in reflecting, I just don't think that's a a reasonable thing to expect of Samsung. I don't think they can really do that. Just because I I don't think that'll allow the ring to still work in the way it's supposed to. Anyway, um yeah, I don't know, Tori, what do you think about this story? I mean, it certainly looks not great for him. Obviously, it's a shame that it happened, particularly why he was flying. But I it doesn't seem like it's indicative of a larger problem with a galaxy ring. Would would this scare you from getting a galaxy ring or a smart ring in general?
SPEAKER_00:No, um, I don't think it would because like again, um it does with it already not being like working the best, like you know, he was already having issues with the battery like beforehand, uh, which you know that could be one thing of multiples, or where like there could be other rings that may be having that, you know, because it's the first ring that they've done and it's you know it's been out for about 14 months now. Um, but you know, on top of that, like doing the salt water and stuff. So I I think um after Samsung does their investigation, um, they'll be able to like maybe they just need to like reiterate also to some guardrails, like when it comes to the like you know, like what can you wear this device in and just kind of like put some more instructions in place? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like just public.
SPEAKER_03:That's what we want to see, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, because like obviously, like uh just give the people what they like the ring. Uh we want them to continue to uh invest in the ring and like uh just make it better in future iterations uh when they come out with the ring too. And um, you know, like we just want that to be in place. So I think after they kind of do some investigations, I feel like what is what is gonna kind of boil down to is just having to um just remind like hey, don't don't do salt water, you know, uh just kind of be careful with what you are exposing the ring to.
SPEAKER_03:Don't get too crazy out there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:If you're wearing that ring, you know, just don't get too crazy.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, don't get too crazy. But I mean, like, I I'm glad that his finger's okay. Uh, I'll be definitely very scared if I was on a plane and that was uh happening. For sure. But yeah, no, I think it was very good on him to be responsible to be like, hey, like this is happening. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think you would want to continue on the flight. Yeah. Plus plus you probably want to get to the emergency room so they could get that off your hand because I would not want to take the risk of actually flying. Because obviously, again, from that perspective, yeah, that can the altitude changes could also cause it to swell more, and then you know, some bad things could happen. You know, if you have your finger amputated or anything of that nature.
SPEAKER_00:We need all five. We need all ten. I need all five, all ten of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All ten all ten of them.
SPEAKER_03:Um let's talk about the Galaxy XR. We have a release date, I guess, that's supposedly been revealed October 22nd, it looks like. So we're only like three weeks away.
SPEAKER_00:Around the corner.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And October 15th, Samsung could open pre-reservations on their website. And you know, I'll be pre-reserving, ready to get that going.
SPEAKER_00:I know. I I'll be interested in that.
SPEAKER_03:Uh we're mainly interested in the price. Yeah. Samsung's made some improvements apparently since they originally showed it off with Google. They said they've made some improvements to the build, the wearability, um, some intuition controls. A lot of people are saying that Gemini is going to be one of the biggest selling points of this headset. Like Gemini will be able to do tons of stuff for you. And just, you know, in the sense that it'll be kind of like, you know, um, what's Iron Man's assistant's name? Jarvis. Yeah, yeah, Jarvis. Where you'll just have to be, you'll just be like, Gemini, show me this, and you'll be like, you know, doing stuff with your Gemini. And Gemini will really have Gemini's a lot stronger in terms of its knowledge base than Siri. So that could make it a lot more appealing than Apple's Vision Pro. Yeah. Um, and if it's$1,500 less, I mean that certainly gives it a big advantage.
SPEAKER_00:I still think$2,000 is a lot of money, but yeah, no, I think it is too. And uh it was kind of interesting. I was thinking about this. Um, as I'm seeing more and more like of the AI glasses are starting to become more out to the fr forefront. Um, you know, I think with this, like uh I think obviously people would be very interested in getting their hands on this, but I think is what's really gonna kind of be the factor is those price points in terms of what the general um or average consumer because the meta display glasses are 800 bucks, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But even then, that's what it's like I was I had booked an appointment to go do it uh-huh on Wednesday, but unfortunately I forgot about it until the last minute. And the appointment, the only Best Buy in all of Phoenix area, whole entire metro, that has the appointments for the fitting for meta display glasses is in Gilbert in Williamsfield Road, and that's a long way from me. Yeah, well, you right next to me. You live yeah, you could just nine minutes next door and just get your fitting. But it was a long way by the time I realized they scheduled me at four o'clock, and I was like, I can't, I'll never get there from here. Yeah, I realized at like 3 20 and it's like 45 minutes to get there. And anyway, they're like booking up these appointments, they're like selling out, like there's no more until like November now. Oh my. So I tried to see if I could get another one because I do want to get my hands on them. The only downside is, of course, since I wear prescription glasses, I have to get it fitted. They have the prescriptions in store. Oh, as long as you bring your prescription, yeah. You can try them out with your prescription. They'll slip the lenses in so you can try it. So I have my prescription, I'm ready to go, but I gotta get another appointment. Yes. Unfortunately, the way Meta is selling these right now, you can't buy them online. Oh with the previous meta. You have to go through Best Buy? Yeah, yeah. You have to go to a physical actual appointment. Oh, it's you cannot buy them without going for a demo. Interesting. Um, I think they're doing that to try to one minimize returns, but also to make sure people understand how the product works before they decide if they want to purchase. Particularly people who do wear prescription glasses, make sure your prescription also looks good and that you can still see and that the display is fine with your prescription. Um, but yeah, you can't buy it online. So now I have to wait. Some people have been apparently the in Vegas, they have pop-ups in Vegas, LA, and New York where you can just go and and buy them that day they don't actually mail them to. If you go to Best Buy here, they'll place your order and then they'll mail them to you. Oh, okay. I guess in those places you can actually get them, but I don't know if that's true if you have the prescription. You may still have to wait in that case. This is gonna be the same case for the Galaxy XR, is because everything has to headset. I have to get a prescription. Yeah. So when I order the Galaxy XR, just like the Vision Pro from Apple, they'll have the prescription lenses and I'll have to put in my prescription when I order them from Samsung, and it'll probably take a little extra time to get it because unfortunately, the prescription they have to take more time to create those prescription lenses. Yeah. Well, there's nothing I can do about it because I can't really use it without the prescription. So my review of the galaxy any headsets I do is gonna always be a little later because of that, unless I, you know, eventually get companies. I mean, if Samsung would send me one early, that would be a different story. They could probably get the lenses early, but unfortunately that's a restriction. That's also one, you know, a lot of people do wear glasses. So I feel like that's also a restriction on the headsets. It's like if you wear glasses, it's less appealing to buy a headset because then you can't wear them with your glasses, you gotta buy another set of those lenses to put in your hands. Yeah, you do, yeah, yeah. So that's another drawing, that's another restriction to doing it. So a lot of people have glasses that I know, they don't really want a headset just because of the inconvenience of that on top of everything else.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um talk about S26 Ultra. There's a lot of stuff that came out with the S26 Ultra. We finally got the official renders. Um, you know, Tori, I know you're really excited about the S26 Ultra. I am because you know, Tori knows that I'm probably gonna upgrade him to the old X26 Ultra so you know he can give his thoughts again. And uh hopefully, maybe if we can convince Tori, I don't really know. Last year you took the day off to come and stream with me, right?
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, yeah, I did, I believe. I think you took the day off, right? I think I did.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe we can see if we can get Tori to do that again. We might have Tori host the live stream because I'll probably be at the event this time. Oh and so we might have Tori host the live stream and then I'll call in on location and report live. I think that'd be cool. Yeah, if you're if you're down on the cool, yeah, yeah. You'll host the live stream, I'll give you the keys to the office. You come here, you do it, you interact with the people. Yeah, you say, hey guys, go get those mystery boxes. Get them now, and I will be live on location from Unpacked, and I'll be bringing you guys some crispy coverage. I think that could be a lot of fun. Crispy coverage. Anyway, let me show you guys uh Tori the renders here. You guys can check them out, all of them in the show notes as well. On leaks, our old buddy, he leaked these with Android uh headlines. These are our first official render looks because he does a really you know great job with them. You can see there's the S26 Ultra. Uh uh. And here I get a zoom in on a little bit for you. There is the photo of the upcoming S26 Ultra. So they did get rid of these faux camera rings that look all plasticky, yeah, which I like. Yeah, and it brings it a little more in line with the design language of the fold 7. It basically looks like the fold 7 camera module. Um, and I think it looks pretty nice, honestly. The other thing you'll notice if you look at my S25 versus the S26 Ultra, the S26 Ultra, no more boxy design. It's completely round. They are not even trying to, they're not trying to go halfway between the note and the S line. It's all S line rounded out, just like it was back with the S21. They've gone full circle. They went S22, S23, S24, S25. They went from a note-looking design on the S22 to like a hybrid on the S25, and now they went all the way back to what it looked like on the S21. So I don't know, Tori, what do you think?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I think it looks really good. Yeah, no, actually, uh, I think it looks uh really good, um, especially now after having like the S25 and just kind of you know, because like I I had the S22 which didn't have the round corners, which I do miss. I I like the the presentation of it, but I actually really do like how the S25 is, and so I think just kind of taking that next step with it. I mean, it does feel better in the hand, yeah. Yeah, no, it honestly does. I remember when I would hold the S22, um, it would like really would be digging into my palms, you know, if I was holding it a certain way, especially if I was laying down. Um the S25 is actually really good to kind of hold like feel like that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_03:Because the S25 Ultra is still a little bit boxy, not fully not fairly round. If you look against my iPhone 17 Pro Max, which is fully round, this does fit nicer in the hand. It's it does feel better when it's rounded out, and I think that's one peeling thing. But one thing I will say, after using the 17 Pro Max for a while, I really hope Samsung does not get baited by Apple to switch back to aluminum because they're right. I love the titanium feel. Oh, yeah, no, I really it feels really premium. The 17 Pro Max, they Apple went back to aluminum, and this phone feels much cheaper, in my opinion. You can feel them, Tori. Yeah, feel those two phones. I think the S25 Ultra feels way better in terms of premium versus the aluminum.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, like the iPhone feels like super light compared to the S25. I think the S25 has a really good feels a little cheaper to me than last year's iPhone 2.
SPEAKER_03:Apple decided to go back to aluminum, presumably because they made the phone thicker and they keep the bassted battery in there, you know. And the iPhone 17 Pro Max, I'll be honest with you, if you like iPhones, it's a great phone performance-wise, but it's ugly. Yeah, and it doesn't feel as premium.
SPEAKER_00:And you know what? It actually uh so I would say I really like the I call it a like a titanium brush, but I really like the titanium feel and how it just feels, obviously, without a case on. But uh, even though the iPhone feels light, but you can really feel the weight of the camera. Yeah, it's unbalanced in the hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's got an unbalanced feel in the hand. For sure.
SPEAKER_03:That's why I wouldn't recommend the iPhone without a case because one, it feels cheap because of the aluminum build around the sides now, and also that weight on the back rays it down, it feels a little unbalanced. Yeah, it really does. So it's easy if you like have it in your hand to tip it over and it falls backwards. So, you know, I don't recommend using without a case. As I say that, I'm using without a case right now.
SPEAKER_00:But and also, too, would it I I I'm not a connoisseur of this cut type of knowledge, but uh, I feel like the aluminum, I mean, like obviously, if you drop them, like you're gonna get some scratches and dings or whatever. The aluminum will definitely get squashed a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:For sure. It'll fold up a little bit more. And people have done drop desks, the YouTubers who like to do that sort of thing. That's not my deal. I'm not into just dropping phones for fun. Yeah, I'd rather find other ways to make content on them. But if you see the drop desk, yeah, it doesn't hold up as well as the previous iPhone or the S25 Ultra, really.
SPEAKER_00:Now, was last year's iPhone titanium or Apple just switched back this year to be a little bit.
SPEAKER_03:And so is the Air, the iPhone Air also. Um, and yeah, I don't know. I just I I hope they don't do that. I hope they a lot of people have been saying that Apple baits Samsung, and Samsung is only following what Apple's doing now, and and I hope that's not true. I think Samsung does have a Ice Universe, our guy, he loves to criticize Samsung when it's convenient for him, and then he he praises Samsung when it's when it's convenient for him, you know, i.e. when those affiliate links need to be need to be fulfilled. So, you know, when he's dropping his howl in January, he'll be like, DS26 Ultra is the second coming of Christ. It is. It's amazing. You have to purchase it. It'll change your life. Look at the camera. Look at the details. Look at the build. But right now, he's like, Oh, Samsung, they just follow Apple. They're a piece of garbage. They do everything Apple does. Um, I mean, I don't know. Here's the next. So, so spinning off that, I'm trying to go down our list here because I got a lot of stuff on the list today. Yeah. Um, apparently, you know how we've talked about S26 Plus is not happening. Yeah. Well, rumor came out this week that we reported on that Ice Universe also mentioned. Uh, apparently Samsung changed their mind. There's gonna be S26 Pro, S26 Edge, S26 Plus, and S26 Ultra. Which I find very confusing.
SPEAKER_00:And this I don't know. I feel like it's gonna kind of, I mean, like this. I feel like for the average consumer, I I think three options is is just solid.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I think four I think it's gonna be the sales of the edge and the plus because if you get rid of the plus, more people would buy the edge because it's the same screen size, it's gonna confuse people. So I guess ice is saying that they're doing this because the iPhone Air, and we've read this from a lot of industry experts who cover Apple. Apparently, the iPhone Air is not selling well by Apple standards. Apple is disappointed.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you know, people are not purchasing it. Well, yeah, because I mean, because I I can also see like like I feel like it's kind of like a weird trend because like we're going like nostalgia in like a lot of ways, in the sense of like we have the flip phones and then you know, and obviously we have the fold for the premium out there now. Um, but like the other nostalgia thing that we're you know, like we're trying to chase is that thinness. And I feel like there is excitement in it, but I feel like it's like a circle of life, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's like people are like, I want to get the thinnest phone possible. So if they make it thinner, thinner, thinner, and people are like, oh man, it's too thin. It doesn't have enough battery life, and the camera's not good enough. So they make it thicker, thicker, thicker. Yeah, and then the battery life and the cameras are great, and people are like, Oh man, this phone's too heavy, I didn't use it anymore. And then it's thinner, thinner, thinner, thinner. Like, oh man, this battery life is terrible. This camera is just not very good, and there's not a good sensor in here, so then they make it thicker, yeah. You know, just keep oscillating.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I I I truly also I I think the average consumer, now that you know you're able to. We talked about this before on the podcast where like you can basically just put stuff on, you know, um like a finance it essentially, you know, people want premium now, and and I think that's kind of like what's driving like why you why you can also just finance, you know, a lot of these very expensive phones now. Um, but people really do want those features, and yes, I think they also want like the thinness and the folds and you know the flips. Um, but I think at the end of the day, what everyone is trying to chase is that premium features, and so I you know, I feel like, and maybe this might be a hot topic, but uh I really feel like we should just have an ultra phone and then just like a regular phone because some people like I say like a small population don't want like the ultra, you know, they want just like a hey, I just want a regular phone, and also it's expensive, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's expensive, but you know, uh, I I think as we add these options, uh at least to the average consumer, it just like you know, because then it's like really like okay, like what am I getting? And I just feel like when you're in these stores, like you know, like I like before I even started, you know, you know, helping Jeff and getting on this, like as just like an average consumer, like you know, I wouldn't, and obviously I will watch his his YouTube videos because that would give me, you know, a lot of perspective, you know, in between like the device where I'm going in. But a lot of people aren't doing, you know, they're just going in, they're just like, hey, I just I'm here for an upgrade, just you know, whatever. And nine times out of ten, the deal is whatever the ultra button is when I go into a sell you the big the most expensive.
SPEAKER_03:That's because the carriers make the most money, of course. Yeah, and Samsung makes the biggest profit margins as well.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, for sure. Um, but you know, I just think having all these options, I mean, like as a consumer, I I I would be like, I wouldn't even know like what to do, what to get. But obviously, the best advice would just be to follow Semiguru.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, I don't really know. I don't know if ICE is right about them just following Apple. I mean, I guess we'll find out. I'll take I'll take back my slander of ICE if Samsung changes to aluminum. God, I hope they don't. Because I don't think they're going to. I hope I don't think they're going to. I really hope they don't do that. Um, because I mean, I still don't think it's a good idea. I think they're reacting to I think Samsung probably prepped. There's a lot of scenarios here. Here's the first thing that could happen. We've seen some different leaks for the different S phones. What if the S26 Plus is actually the S26 Pro? Because we really haven't seen any convincing leaks that confirm the screen size.
SPEAKER_01:True.
SPEAKER_03:What if the S26 Plus is the S26 Pro? A lot of people will be pissed about that though, because that would mean them were getting rid of the small screen size in the lineup and there'd be no phone with a small screen size. So that would make some people mad. That's the first scenario. The second scenario is there really is four phones. And Samsung had kept the plus in their development timeline because they weren't sure about how the thin phones would do. I mean, Apple. Well, not only Apple, but also the S25 Edge we've heard is not done very well. Although I think there's completely different reasons for that.
SPEAKER_00:But I don't think I don't even think I I know we want them, but I don't I don't even think there's enough demand. I uh even before they started doing the thin phones. I I don't think people are really trying to chase that. I know I I I think now we've kind of like with the in terms of foldables, like I feel like this year you could just see the success of of the fold seven, but like I think people just really want the then fold.
SPEAKER_03:I I I think I I I think I think foldables has now gotten enough attraction um for that to be well, and and I think uh we just need like one thing at a time as like a well it's funny you say that, Tori, because actually the next thing that I was gonna talk about in terms of some other news we have in terms of like sales numbers and stuff, is Samsung sent us and all the other media outlets a statistic this week, which we published. Samsung says three in ten, so thirty percent of all Fold 7 buyers are longtime Galaxy S Ultra users. So three out of every 10 fold buyers are people Fold 7 buyers, are people who are switching from the S Ultra to the Fold 7 as their main phone.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I feel like that and guess who is one of those three out of 10?
SPEAKER_03:Jeff Springer. Yes, my main sim is in my fold now. Um, you know, Samsung gave me a reunit of the fold, but I bought my own fold because one they give you 256 and I want no 256. Yeah, I bought a one terabyte fold, black one, and that's what's my main phone now. Now, of course, I still have my ultras because I need them for videos and stuff. It's not like I stopped using them, but my main personal sim that I make calls from, that I talk to my family, that is my contact number for personal matters, it's the fold now. Yeah, so a lot of people are doing that this year. I mean, I totally believe this statistic. I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually slightly higher than what Samsung says. It could be slightly higher, even. Yeah, it's a pretty impressive statistic, though, and I I certainly do believe it. No uh overall, it's it's very interesting. So, I mean, I don't know. What I really hope, I don't know. I feel bad for the as people who like the small phones if the S26 Plus actually ends up being the pro, because then we just have two phones, we have 6.7 or 6.5 inches and above only, and they get rid of the 6.1 inch phone. People are not, I some people are not gonna like that. Yeah, yeah, no. There's still hundreds of thousands of people who want the smallest phone. We've also heard some changes about the S26 Pro, whatever size it ends up being, about the cameras. Apparently, the cameras are actually going to be pro. It might get an improved telephoto, it might get the same main sensor as the Ultra.
SPEAKER_00:That'd be crazy. Well, so then uh side question then. Uh, what like what's the screen size for the flip? Could the flip also be a small phone that people could?
SPEAKER_03:Well, the flip has a 6.7, but it's in more narrow aspect ratio. Because you know it's taller than it is wide, which is actually the main reason, even though they made it wider this year. That's the main reason why it's probably my least used Galaxy flagship, just because I don't like having a really narrow phone. Yeah. At least with the fold, even though it's kind of narrow, it's it's wide enough I can use it, but also if I want to, I can flip it open. Yeah, and now I've got this massive canvas which I can multitask and do my work. And I love the fold. I mean, honestly, I'm I'm doing I'm filming my fold review next week. I took time longer than other people because I wanted to test a lot of things. Um, I did an in-depth speaker test, camera comparisons to a bunch of stuff that'll be dropping sometime next week. That one might go on my personal channel. Um, huge shout out to everybody for supporting Sammy Guru channel, by the way. We're getting close to 5,000 subs already. Uh, we already got elible for monetization, like I said. That channel is already like killing it. I mean, it's getting almost as many views every day as my personal channel. And this channel is much smaller and just launched. People are really excited about the Sami Guru channel. But uh, I love the Fold 7, and uh I'm excited about the S26 Ultra as well. Um, I think the biggest feature, which we also got a leak about this week, you know, the privacy display, I think that's gonna be the flagship uh feature in terms of hardware that Sam Hung's gonna market. The magic pixel technology that lets you basically use the display to turn off parts of it so people can't see it. Yeah. That's like a magical feature. And here's the thing I don't know that that feature is actually, I don't know that it really needs the hardware on the S26 Ultra. Theoretically, that feature I think is mostly software. We actually discovered, uh, we're gonna talk about this in a minute. There's a new build of 1UI 8.5, which remember we talked about that last week. The whole test build drama where everybody was rushing to get it out first. And we were first, by the way. Champions of the world, right here. Champions of the world. Um, but there's a new build that came out this week, which I flashed and I have. Um, and we discovered in the build there's a new feature called privacy protection, which will do two things. One, it'll let you automatically use AI to censor sensitive instrument information if you want to share a photo. So if you want to share a photo, but it has like some personal info on it you don't want, it'll use AI to scan it and automatically blur that information. But that also contains the API information for the privacy display, which we found some settings about how that's going to work, the whole settings page for the S26 Ultra. And from what it looks like, it looks like you can change like the angles and the apps on which the privacy display will be on. I think it's mostly software. People are thinking that it requires the new M14 panel that's on the S26 Ultra. I don't think it does, which is going to make people a lot of really angry because I can guarantee you take it to the bank and take it to the bank and cash, cash this check. Samsung is not going to launch that feature on the other phones when 8.5 comes out. That will not be at least in the first half of 2026 on any other phone but the S26 series. Why? Because you gotta sell some phones. Yeah, you do. And that feature is a really killer feature in terms of how it would look in marketing materials and commercials. Think about that feature. Like no other phone has that feature. Yeah, someone's trying to look over your shoulder, your phone, you tick tack a button, and boom, like it goes black. They can't see anything, but you can see it. Like you can dim and like that's a feature that you can sell to people. People like that. And someone commented on one of my YouTube videos, and they're like, Well, Jeff, but the now brief was also exclusive to the S25, and that didn't really sell any extra phones. The now brief is not the same as this feature. No, the now brief is not a feature that you can put in a commercial, and people are like, I gotta get that phone. Yeah, no, because it's just an aggregate of a bunch of your information. It's not even really using AI right now. It doesn't do anything magic. But if you tell someone that like someone's trying to peep on my screen on the subway and I can just do it in whatever app I want, I can make sure that no one else can see my screen but me. That's something you can make a nice commercial spot about. Oh, yeah. And take up a large chunk of your ad. And people will be like, whoa, Apple doesn't have that. S26 Ultra, maybe I should think about it. The Now Brief is just not the same feature. You agree, right?
SPEAKER_00:It's not the same.
SPEAKER_03:Like that, like, yeah, no one bought the S25 Ultra for the Now Brief. No. That was a stupid we can we can all agree that the S25 Ultra, you know, that was a stupid feature to have as an exclusive. They could have brought that to everyone else because no one else was purchasing that phone for the now brief. There's just no reason. But if this feature is exclusive to the S26, even if it's software only, the average person doesn't know that. Just like you said, Tori, if I go into Verizon and the rep is like, oh, look at this S26 Ultra, it's got this amazing feature called privacy display and flex magic pixels. You can just turn off anyone being able to view your screen from these outside viewing angles in any app you want and get instant privacy, no matter where you are. They're not gonna say, oh, well, it's a software feature, it has nothing to do with the display in the phone. Yeah, no, yeah. They're not gonna explain that to you. They're not. And and probably even the guy working at Verizon won't even know that. They'll just be like, well, right now it's only on this phone. So if you want this feature, you gotta buy that phone. Yeah. Now, would it maybe come to the S25 Ultra later if it is true that it doesn't need the M14? Maybe. But I mean, that's a really big selling point. I think Samsung might the other thing we found out about the S26 Ultra this week, which is bad news, is that apparently the selfie camera is not getting a resolution upgrade. It's not going up from 12 megapixels is gonna be the same 12 megapixels it's been since the S23. Jeez, man, that sucks. That's four years. That doesn't mean they can't change the aperture or change some of the other things to do with the camera, which a couple people pointed out to me on X. So it doesn't mean there's no upgrades at all. It just means you're not getting that bump in terms of the number of megapixels. So keep in mind, it doesn't mean that nothing is going to change here. In fact, this guy here, let's give some love to people commenting on our stuff. Freddy Fresh 100 says, but the sensor size can grow, the aperture can grow, the camera lens can be newer materials, and the ISP chip, the image signal processor that's in the silicon, for sure is new, which is coming from the Snapdragon uh 8 Gen 5, which we talked about last week. Uh so the 12 megapixels can still be there and we can still see improvements. And he's absolutely right. So uh we weren't saying in this article that that doesn't mean there's gonna be no improvements to the selfie camera, but certainly the chip the processor itself, which we talked about last week from the Qualcomm Summit, will make this camera better anyway, um but not a resolution upgrade, which is kind of a bummer. So to kind of summarize everything, just put a nice bow on the S26 Ultra and S26 series because it's getting to that point of the year where it's like there's tons of leaks about it. We know it's gonna have the new processor, we don't know if it's gonna be Snapdragon everywhere. It could be Exynos 2600 in some regions, which I know some people are a little bummed about. I kind of would like to see Exynos come back. If there's an Exynos 2600 version, even if it's not in the US, I will buy one and do a comparison. Because you know, that's what we do at Sami Guru. We cover Samsung. I'll compare them because I would like to see Samsung get some shine back in their chip business. Um we know there's gonna be some camera upgrades to the ultra wide. Um we know there's gonna be some upgrades in terms of the aperture and things to the main sensor. Yeah, um, the zoom camera doesn't look like it's gonna get an upgrade, which is I think is a bummer. The selfie camera, no resolution upgrade, no megapixels resolution upgrade, but maybe some things to the aperture as well. So that could be a theme this year. Um we don't really know what the build materials are going to be just yet. We don't know if it's gonna be tight. We assume it's gonna be titanium again, but I hope it's not aluminum. Hopefully that doesn't happen. Uh we know it's gonna have this privacy display of the flex magic picture technology. It's gonna run one UI 8.5, which has a ton of features. And actually, that's probably what we're gonna talk about in the second half of the show. Because um I still got a lot of news today. I don't have as much hardware to talk about today because I we already talked enough about the iPhones. I'm not gonna talk more about iPhones in this show. If you want to see iPhone review, I'll have one on my personal channel coming probably in a week or two, so you can subscribe to Jeff Springer, but I'm not gonna put that on Sammy Guru. But we still have a lot of other stuff, software news on my list we can talk about today. My Xiaomi 17 Pro Max didn't come yet, so next week I'll have impressions on that. Because I know a lot of people are excited about the little display that's next to the camera. Tori will get to see that. We'll talk about that. I'm actually excited to see that in the hardware segment next week. We'll get into that a little bit. Um, but 18.5 is going to run on the S26 series. Uh, we could get a charging upgrade to 60 watts. Ice Universe says that that's still happening. Wire charging upgrade, which is certainly a really nice thing. Yeah, no, it would be really nice. I mean, overall, it's some pretty solid upgrades. Like, there's nothing revolutionary. We know the S Pen is sticking around, still no Bluetooth. Um, the S Pen's also getting a little redesigned to where like I don't we we talked about this last week, but this leak came out. It's not gonna be like flat like this, it's gonna be curved a little bit to one side so that it blends in to the side. That's probably because they're gonna have this be a little more curved. So the S Pen's gonna need to be a little more curved as well. So the S Pen will be back. Um we've got the new design for the camera module on the back, a little more rounded out than it was before. I mean, a lot of things. Honestly, when it comes to the camera, and we published an article about this as well uh over on Sammy Grew, an opinion piece from one of our new writers, uh Fidel. He's great. Uh he just joined the team. Samsung really could change a lot of their camera quality by doing better with the processing. Their software processing is not that good. And of course, the Snapdragon, new Snapdragon chip could help with that. But they really need to dial in that processing, computational photography, because they have a lot of situations where their photos end up like smudging out colors or making things too bright. I think you know too, just from taking photos with Samsung in low light, particularly, and that's not necessarily the hardware, it's really a lot to do with the software, even though the hardware does need to be upgraded. So I'm not saying don't do that, Samsung. We need an upgrade to the primary cameras at least at aperture because it it needs some better low light performance on the hardware side. But I mean, I'm excited for the S26 Ultra. Um, I think it's gonna be a nice release. I know some people are are a little disappointed with the direction in terms of they wanted more hardware upgrades, but I do think the privacy display to the average consumer is gonna be a magical feature that Samsung will advertise, and I think people will actually like that feature. Faster charging is something people wanted for a long time, they're delivering that. And the cameras are getting upgrades, not necessarily resolution or a brand new sensor, but they're getting you know that lower aperture, so you let more lower light performance. If they really hit a home run with the processing and 1UI 8.5 continues, it's very good right now, which we'll talk about in the second half of the show. If they continue to refine 1UI 8.5, this could be a massive release. It could be a lot of fun, I think.
SPEAKER_00:I think so too.
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, in the second half of the show, I'll run down this 1UI 8.5 build that I've been going over this week. I've got a full video coming in that tomorrow. Um, we'll talk about some people are reporting a massive jump in their sleep scores from the Galaxy Watch. People think that Samsung has changed the algorithm a little bit. So we'll talk to Tori and see if he's noticed that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03:Welcome back, everybody. We're back from the break, and uh, I guess we'll just kick off the second half talking about this 1UI 8.5 build. The biggest news that came out of Vittoria is finally one of those features that we've been hearing about since OneUI7 that we both want is finally coming with 1U8.5, and that is notification summaries, AI notification summaries. Oh, I like that. So you will finally be able to get that on your S26 device and your S25 and such when it gets the update. Um yeah, so I mean basically the pop-up shows you, and I I show it to you here, uh, when you open, when you first download the build and install it, you get a little pop-up that says your longer conversations can now be summarized to give you quick recaps. Oh and you turn that on in the settings and it's right here, and it shows you notification summaries. And you can turn on which apps you want to have it for. Oh no, that's kind of cool. Now, right now, this is just the Google wording because they're basically, you know, obviously Google makes Android. Yeah. And so one UI is built on top of Android. This is just the Google page, they haven't added any Samsung theming to it. Because remember, this is a early build of the software. And so obviously, that means that not everything is finished, and it also means that it's not gonna look one UI like because they're not done doing the theming and the skinning. But it does look like we're gonna get it. My hope is that it doesn't suck as bad as Apple's because Apple's notification summaries are awful. Um, I have them on the iPhone here, and when I like try to read a summary, half the time it doesn't even tell me much information about what I really need to know. It's like it's like Arizona Cardinals deal alert ends today. It summarizes a lot of these spam emails that I don't even like it doesn't do a very good job of pulling my important emails.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I asked it to summarize my important emails, but it really summarizes a lot of garbage that I don't want. So I hope Samsung and Google they have obviously the tools because they're way ahead of AI of to summarize this a little bit better and to give you more I hope they give you more granular control. I mean, this page is obviously very general, and right now it doesn't give you a lot of control, which is fine because obviously it makes sense that it doesn't give you a lot of control, I guess. Um but I hope that they're able to give us more useful information and also better summaries, yeah, more control over what is summarized and what isn't. Uh hopefully Samsung will do that because with Galaxy I they tend to take Google's tools and then hopefully give you a little bit more choice of where they're used. Like I said, on the Pixel, everything is about the AI. So my Pixel 10 Pro XL. Yeah. But it's like AI this, AI that let's AI it everywhere. Let's AI that everywhere. So the other good news about this build, um, before I get into some of the other changes, is our buddy Michelle Ramon over at Android Authority, we pulled the build number from this latest 8.5 build and gave it to him. He's like an Android expert genius, and he found out that this build is actually based on Android 16 QPR2, which is Android's like quarterly release. They release like new features for Android as a whole. Google does. So usually Samsung bases the half releases off of like the base of Android and not like Google's newer versions. Yeah. So this means that Samsung is going to have disposal all those new features in QPR2. So there also might be even more features coming to 8.5 as a result of that. That's actually pretty big, pretty big development. No, really. In addition to the notification summaries, which I think we like. Are you going to try the notification summary story? Oh, yeah, no. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:I think it'd be like so helpful. I mean, I guess many notifications, you know, because like at work, like I'm not checking my phone, and you know, like, and then like I'm usually just hopping into the car, and then so it'd be really nice if like I could just get like a rundown of my notifications, and then I can kind of just start triaging and prioritizing. Thank you, Gemini, for that summary. We appreciate you. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:And then I'll say, Well, thank you, Jeff. There you go. Um, couple other features in this 8.5 build. Um, they did change the way the lock screen editor looks now. So the lock screen editor now has a floating, you go to the clock, it's got like a floating bar down here with a nice gradient. There's also this little water drop thing that makes the color either darker or lighter. If you turn the water drop on, it makes it lighter. See that there? It's like washing it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like if you take some paint and you dilute it with some water, that's basically what it does. I figured that out. Um, there's a new voice uh screen recorder UI. So if you go into the screen recorder, it actually looks a lot nicer now. So if you try to record your screen, oops, you get this beautiful Ah, what's happening? There we go. See that screen recorder UI? You can now choose a specific area to record. I like that. Just part of your screen. Otherwise, the options are similar, but you can choose part instead of the full screen when you do screen recording, which is nice. Um, they did kind of mess up the phone app. They used to have this long bar across here that it was only like half of the screen on the previous build, but now it's all the way across. I don't think it looks very good being all the way across the screen. It also kind of interferes with the gesture hint a little bit, which is weird. I'll show you right now what we have right now in 1UI 8, Tori, so you can see the difference. You see here, this is what it looks like in 1UI 8. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They also inverted the colors here on the phone button. The circle is white and the phone is green, whereas the green was and yeah. And so now you've got this little floating menu, but the floating menu goes all the way across. I think it looks a little a little strange. Uh, the other thing is I told you guys last week about the family sharing feature that's coming to 8.5. That has been now there's been a new menu added to there. So they're obviously developing this feature. So if you go into your connected devices, go into Quick Share, there's a new family device sharing menu. Oh and now you can invite your family members to yeah. So basically, what this is is Samsung has had all these submenus where you can share things with your family for a long time. Like if you have kids or a spouse, you can share like your payment method so they can make payments, they can buy stuff from the galaxy store. You can share your health data with your family. Like if you need to share that because someone you have an older parent you're taking care of, you need to have their health data. Or if you just want to share it with your wife or your kids. You can find your family members, find their location. If you need to get location for your children, that's a very popular one. You can share photo albums. So you used to be able to do all these various things, and they were in various different places, scattered across the galaxy settings. So it looks like what this new family device sharing menu is for is to get all of the information of that family stuff in one place. Yeah. Um, I really don't know why I this family device avatar, the like little photo is a picture of a video of a cat, but I guess it's because people like to share cat videos with their family. I don't know. It's a little confusing.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, cat's videos have always been very popular.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody likes to share a cat video, I guess. Yeah. So it says under there, ask your family members to turn on family device sharing or invite someone new to share with. So obviously, you can share this with people who are not just in your family because you can't add other people from that menu, but it's mainly to be shared with people who are already part of your Galaxy family. So that way you can also share your smart thing devices, so you can give like access, like Nicole and I, we have a Samsung smart uh washer and dryer. Yeah. And so when I set it up, then I have to give her access inside our family settings so she can control the settings from her smart things. All that stuff can be done within this menu here. All right, no, it makes life a lot easier. Yeah, and we like that. You know, that's a nice little feature. Um, I showed you guys the animations here last week, this little flip animation that's still there in the quick settings. They really haven't modified the quick settings too much. I mean, everything is pretty similar to what it was before. They've changed a couple of the other look and feel of the menus. They've also changed the icons. Now, I don't know if you can see this story. It's kind of subtle, but if you look at the icons, like if you look at the phone icon here, this is 8.0 versus 8.5 now. You can see there's like a 3D look to this icon. Look at the internet icon too. Yeah, they've got like a gradient glow around the outside, which makes this look three-dimensional versus on one UI 8, it's kind of two-dimensional. You can kind of see it.
SPEAKER_00:You can tell there's there's like a little like lighting.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Kind of like off on the side.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. Yeah, there's a little bit of a lighting there that makes it look three-dimensional. And so they did change that. That's also another uh fairly large change that they made in this particular build. So overall, Samsung is adding some big stuff to 8.5. I mean, notification summaries is going to be huge. Obviously, I talked about that privacy protection feature, which is gonna go along with the privacy display for the S26 Ultra. That'll be big. You've got new icons, things are being changed there. They've got all the floating action buttons. They also move the search bar to the bottom in everything. Also, if you go to the weather app now, you see here there's like a little gradient at the bottom, the transition. They redesigned the weather app a little. And if you search in the weather app, the search bar is now at the bottom. It used to be at the top. Top. So they've moved the search bar to the bottom everywhere, not just in the main settings, but also inside of all your various applications. So you'll be able to see, you know, easier searching, which is why that's why One UI is called One UI. It's supposed to be one-handed use, right? Yeah, no, yeah. And so that is what Samsung's trying to do. So the second build looks good. A lot of people have been asking me, you know, how can I get the build? Well, the answer is can I get a drink of the soda there? Talking for a long time here. Um, the answer is you don't get it. Um it's I will don't do it. I mean, if you have an international model, even if you do have it, it's your main phone. You don't want to install this on it. It's very buggy. Um, I I this is not my main phone, right? This is just a phone I use for testing. You know, you really need to have if you have a separate phone that's for testing and you have an international model, it's laying around. Yeah, I'm sure, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess um, but you need to know someone who has the build. Um I I get it from some of our sources. A lot of people don't want to share this lately, so it's kind of hard to find. And people ask me not to necessarily share it with everyone, so I don't, um, so that we can keep getting the builds. That's just the way it is. Um, so you have to know someone who has it, and you need to have an international model. And on top of all that, you need to be a little bit technical because you need to be able to uh use developer options and gain temporary access to this hidden software update menu to sideload it. And for that, you need a little bit of basic coding knowledge and kind of Samsung hacking knowledge to do that. So it's not easy. And if it's your main phone, it's not worth it because there's a lot of problems with this build. This build is super buggy. The back gesture doesn't even work in some of the apps. Like if you have the keyboard open, you can't go back. And to close the app, start over. Um, it crashes every few minutes. It's a disaster overall. It's not a good look. Um, so I don't recommend it unless you like, you know, just have a test device, you have another device that's your main. Otherwise, it's it's really messy. Um, I'm sure these are gonna keep getting updated, and as long as as long as I'm able to keep getting the test builds, which we have some sources that are getting them for us, we appreciate that. Um not gonna put all their names out there because I don't want people DMing them or emailing them asking for the builds too, but we appreciate them, and I'll keep bringing you video coverage of all these features for as long as we get access. I mean, there should Samsung's gonna keep developing it all the way until the S26 launch, so three more months. There'll probably be regular builds every week or two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So um speaking of hacking and sideloading and software hacking on Android, Google is supposedly putting some restrictions, and we talked about this a few weeks ago, that's gonna stop sideloading on Android, even though it's not doing that. They're gonna make developers verify themselves. We talked about this a few weeks ago, where if you make an Android app, you're now gonna have to verify yourself in order to distribute your app on third-party platforms. Okay, yeah. Otherwise, Google will block the install. And so a lot of people thought this is gonna stop sideloading. It really isn't. It's just if you want to distribute your app on third-party platforms, you have to verify yourself. If you just want to share your app with some individuals, you know, I mean, then that's not really probably. It's like if you want to share it on third-party app stores, places that distribute these APKs, as far as I can tell. And also the verification requirements aren't like super stringent. It's pretty simple to go through and do the registration. And also, it doesn't affect your ability to develop yourself on your local machine using ADB. Like, none of that's affected. So I don't know. Personally, I mean, I love obviously sideloading on Android where you can just download any app you want and you can load it. You don't have to go through the Play Store or the Galaxy store. You can't do that on iOS. Remember, that's part of the freedom that we enjoy as Android users. But I think this is a step in the right direction because Google wants to maintain the openness of Android and balance it with the privacy and security. Because you know, a lot of iPhone users have this misconception about Android. I'm actually planning to make a video on my channel, personal channel, about this. A lot of iPhone users have a bunch of misconceptions about Android, and one of the misconceptions is that it's much less secure than iOS, which isn't true. A lot of them think that it's less secure because, you know, the Play Store is the Wild West and you can get viruses by downloading stuff. That's not even close to being true. But if you sideload stuff, it is possible to get yourself in a little trouble if you don't know what source you're actually getting these from. But uh, in my opinion, I think this is a step in the right direction from Google because it reins in a little bit of you know people's ability to go out to third-party platforms and distribute APKs that have malware without repercussions. Because obviously, if they're registered and you distribute it, Google obviously knows who you are.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Because this isn't like registering is not like just like you make up a fake email and stuff. They're actually gonna verify who you are, you know, like using an identity verification. You know, they're gonna know who you are as a developer. So if you're out there infecting a bunch of people's phones on a third-party platform, then you're not gonna be able to get away with that. And I think that's a good thing.
SPEAKER_00:No, I think that's a good thing. Uh uh Yeah, I mean, again, like like you just can be out here just doing that.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, like, yeah, I mean, I think people want the openness of Android, but they also we have to balance that with the average users wanting the security as well. I mean, really though, and these are investments. The argument that a lot of people make though is if you're side loading, at that point, you're not really an average user anymore.
SPEAKER_00:Uh well, I guess so.
SPEAKER_03:I also understand that argument. That's the reason a lot of people say, like, we don't really need this, because if you're sideloading, you already understand the risk and you should be researching the source that you're downloading from yourself. True. But Google doesn't view it that way because Android is so big now, billions of users, not just millions with an M, billions with a B, like two billion something users around the globe. Like almost half of the entire world uses Android in some form or another, right? Even if it's not on your phone, all these devices you interact with in the world daily, most of them run Android. Like all these IoT devices, they act with it, you know, in stores. Like you go to Habit Burger, you place an order on display, that runs Android. The one at Taco Bell, that runs Android. All those things run Android. They want the Android ecosystem to also be secure because in their you know mind, an average user could still find out about sideloading and then go sideload something that's unsafe because they're just now learning about sideloading. So they're just trying to protect it. Android, you know, in the early days, there weren't that many people using it. So like Google's like do whatever you want, it's a free-for-all.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But back then, you know, whatever, 2008, no one was really using a lot of Android phones or 2010 even. So it wasn't a big deal. But anyway, I don't think it's the end of sideloading as a whole. We'll see how it plays out. Obviously, the Android community will be very if this ends up affecting side loading, somehow Google didn't disclose something fully. The Android community will be very vocal about trying to get things turned around. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. As they always are. Um what about this jump in Galaxy Watch sleep scores? So Android Authority reported, and we posted about it too, after we saw their story, that a lot of Galaxy users are reporting a jump in their sleep scores. I've noticed it. You said you haven't been using yours a lot. Yeah, yeah, no, I haven't. But I do think that Samsung may have changed their algorithm for the sleep scores somehow. I don't know exactly what they did, but it does seem like they may have changed that algorithm up a little bit because the sleep scores, at least in my view, they've kind of gone through the roof. You know, they're like, hey, you've been sleeping pretty good tonight. Yeah. And I was like, I had a terrible night of sleep. What are you talking about? Yeah. What are you talking about? I was like, are you guys uh smoking a little bit of that crack cocaine today? Because I mean, I didn't sleep very well at all, and they'll be like, You got a sleep score of 98.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and you're like, what?
SPEAKER_03:I slept for three and a half hours and I woke up in the middle of it. How could I have a sleep score of 98? Um, so I don't know what they're doing there. Uh hopefully this article that Android Authority wrote, and then a lot of other platforms like us, we picked it up. Love our friends at Android Authority. You know, they always cover some great stuff, and we've been able to help them out with a lot of Samsung information that they've been able to then analyze for the APK teardowns and stuff. We like working with them. Android Authority. Great, great, great group of guys over there. But anyway, I'm curious from our listeners, readers, etc., if you guys have had a jump in your sleep score. So if you wear a ring, you wear a watch every night, have you seen it jump up? Because it seems like people are saying that that's happening. I've noticed it on mine a decent amount when I wear my ring. It'll definitely say that I have a 90 plus sleep score when I slept for like four hours or so. And that's can't be.
SPEAKER_00:No way.
SPEAKER_03:You know, you should at least need to get like I feel like you should at least need to get seven hours of sleep to have a 90 sleep score. Yeah, right. And also, usually I'll have woken up once and they'll be like, oh, it still is great.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, you're doing good. Keep it up.
SPEAKER_03:And I was like, guys, I don't know what's going on here. Someone might have turned that algorithm up. They're like, only put 90 plus sleep scores, give people great feedback, make them feel good about themselves. I'm like, no, I want accurate sleep scores. Um, Samsung pushed out a massive update to Keys Cafe, and I actually covered a video on this. It's the biggest update to Keys Cafe ever, Tori. You might want to try this because it's got some great features. I was actually able to customize my beautiful Sammy Guru keyboard. You see it? Ooh. Sami Guru. And with the new Keys Cafe, you can customize the feature. Like when you do your swipe to type, you can customize the symbol that shows up. So if you look at this, I have dollar symbols that show up when I swipe. They're in green because we're out here getting this money today. Yeah, yeah, we are. Yeah, get this money to do. You can also do like paw prints. Oh no, actually, this is pretty cool. If you want to celebrate Halloween, you can switch to the skulls, the yellow skeleton skull down here. You can grab that and add that to Halloween. Just in time for Halloween. I might want to celebrate it. So I was really like, hey, switch that up. Uh, but new Keeks Cafe has got some new features. Not only the new swipe gesture stuff, completely new UI, and it has this really cool gesture feature where you can now do two and three finger gestures to do things on your keyboard. So now when I swipe left with two fingers, it undoes my typing. If I swipe right, it redoes it. If I swipe up, it copies all the text on my keyboard right now, on my field. If I swipe down, it pastes what's on my clipboard.
SPEAKER_00:Uh so the so the force is strong with you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And I can also do three fingers, and you've got a lot of features. You can not only cut and paste, you can also show hide the keyboard, open emoji mode, change your language, move your cursor, um, move your cursor to the front. You can open writing assistant, uh, you can start and stop the voice input. So turn your microphone on to do voice input. All that stuff with just a two or three finger swipe up, down, or left and right. Oh, actually, looks really quite nice. Uh, and now on the home screen at Keys Cafe, you've got some statistics, which I always love. Who doesn't love statistics? We love stating.
SPEAKER_00:I love statistics.
SPEAKER_03:You can get your typing speed, tells you a typing speed, 54 words a minute for me. 167 words type today because I I haven't used the fold seven as much. I was doing a lot of stuff with the S25 Ultra. And check this out it gives you a heat map of your world clock service. Whoa, hey, calm down over there, Big Speed. My frame speaker there. It's just getting a little getting a little fussy over the background. This is a typo analyzer. It shows you which parts of the keyboard you make your typos on the most. So I see the paint splatter shows you where you're making the most typos. Oh, that'd be so cool. I'd be making typos over here and here, you know. But I really blame Samsung Keyboard for that. They gotta they they gotta get their autocorrect up there.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, I think so too. Yeah, because that I feel like that's probably like my most gripe when using this phone.
SPEAKER_03:Is like the amount of keyboard is better with auto-correct, but I do love the features of Samsung's keyboard, especially with Keys Cafe. Shows you your most typed word. My most typed word today is that, and it shows you a word cloud of all the most common words you type today. I'm downloading it. Uh, is this is this something I download? Yeah, I can give it to you. Do you want the APK? Hold on a second, I'll quick share it to you, Tori. Oh, yeah, yeah. You can install it directly. Because this is actually not on the Galaxy store yet. It's an early APK, but I got I got it for you. You know, I got a special gift for you today. Oh, excellent. Let me go ahead and quick share this to you. Quick share. Tories S25 Ultra. It's coming your way. And there it is. And now you'll be able to just install it up. Just install it over. Cool. Install it in. I'll hope you install it after we get it. You're gonna have to sideload it.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay, yeah. That's okay. Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:And you can play around with it and make your you know, you want a custom Sammy Guru keyboard too, who doesn't? Yeah, everybody should go out and have one. Everybody wants one. It's a huge winner. Uh Keys Cafe, so that covered that. The Trifold also has an unveiling date or veiling day. It's coming at APEC, which is a conference over there in Korea, I believe. Actually, let me see. What is the date for APEC? Because I didn't look that up for the show. You know, sometimes I'm a little busy. I just don't have time to do my all my research. October 27th to November 1st in Korea. So it looks like the trifle could be coming in about four weeks. It'll be released. We still don't know if the US release is going to coincide with the Korean release, which is a very important question for me because it's the difference between spending$5,000 and probably two,$2,500 or$3,000. I'd much rather be able to buy it directly from Samsung US. I don't have to worry about tariffs and also the jacked up price from the importers. But we don't know still. So that has been revealed. But that is when we expect it to be unveiled at the Apex conference. So trifold. Probably going to have some fun coverage of that in November, just like I did the special edition fold last year. You know, a little holiday treat. Hopefully, you guys support me so I don't lose lots of money on that. I'm going to buy it. But I'm trusting you guys to give me some views so you can make back some of the money off the ads. Uh, and then the last thing is our buddy at Michelle Roman and Andrew Authority also did a nice article this week where he demonstrated that Tab S11 and L S11 Ultra can run Linux apps on the device now, full Linux apps. So you can basically turn your Tab S11 into a desktop and run Linux apps. Now, not everything runs. A lot of the ones that require intense graphics will not run. But for the most part, you can run a lot of Linux utilities and more there'll be more support coming in the future. Android just added this. You can just basically put the Linux terminal on there and launch and install Linux apps on your TabS11. It only works with Android tablets that have certain processors. Snapdragon processors don't work, which is why it's a real big benefit that Samsung now uses the MediaTech processors in the Tab S11 series. So theoretically, the Tab S10 might also be able to run that as well once you get one UI 8. I may have to test that out, see how it goes. But that does make my Tab S11 Ultra more useful for$1,500 as a laptop, as it should be.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But I still don't have I still don't have the premium keyboard because Samsung ain't releasing that, I guess, till January, which I still think is just ridiculous. Yeah, no, no, no. They got that cheap type cover, which is$200. Um, I guess I'm just holding off till January, and I'll buy the premium one because I'll review it. The type cover keyboard is garbage. If you have a Tab S11, do not buy that keyboard. Um, it is just not good. So I don't recommend that at all. I've bought them in the past, and it doesn't look like they change much of anything with that keyboard this year. So I I just recommend you just hold off on that. You know, just say, hell no, we won't go. Hell no, we won't go. And and don't purchase that keyboard. Don't reward them for that kind of stupidity.
SPEAKER_00:You know, the people don't know it should come out at the same time. It it it just should. It has to, you know. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know what they're doing over there. They gotta get their you gotta get their game up.
SPEAKER_00:And we have to tell them with their money.
SPEAKER_03:Yep. Vote with your wallet. Yeah. That's what I say.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, vote with your wallet.
SPEAKER_03:You gotta vote with it all day, every day. Uh all right, so me and Tori are about to get some dinner tonight. Um, I think we're gonna cut the show a little short. Uh, Larry sent a question, but I can't find it. I looking for it. I don't know where he put it.
SPEAKER_00:What? I thought it was in my actually, you know, I think I checked. I put it in and I didn't see it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I thought it was in a reply to my tweet, but I don't know if he put it in a DM to me or something. Larry, you're gonna have to tell me where that question was because I don't know. I tried to find your question. I saw it one day in my notifications. I guess I need notification reminders and not just notification summaries. I need something to remind me about my notifications, and I'm like, what the hell, you know?
SPEAKER_00:Um, I don't see it at all.
SPEAKER_03:But what's up with that? You know what I mean? It's just like boom. Um anyway, I think that's a good place to stop. We covered a lot of great stuff today. Yeah, I think it's you know, the summary is you know, we're excited about the S26 Ultra. I'm excited to get that Xiaomi 17 Pro Max in here, actually, because I like that little camera on the back. Oh, yeah. We got release dates essentially for the trifold and the XR headset, which we've been waiting on for a while. Um, don't put your galaxy ring in saltwater. Do not do not do not especially not if you're also going on a flight at the same time. You know, don't go out there and just you know, take a quick swim in the Pacific Ocean and then jump on a five-hour flight. I don't recommend it. Hopefully, Samsung will resolve that whole issue. Um, S26 series is looking good, in my opinion. Should be a lot of fun. Uh, I think so too. And uh 1UI 8.5 is looking delicious. And also a huge shout out to Samsung. The OneUi 8 launch, they've done a great job. They have updated a lot of phones here in just like three weeks. Not just the S25 series, but also the S24, the S23.
SPEAKER_00:Oh no, that's really good.
SPEAKER_03:A bunch of A series phones, even an M series phone, the Tab S10, they've updated like every almost their whole entire portfolio in three weeks. Sounds like all that criticism we gave to them in the article and on the podcast.
SPEAKER_00:They really do listen to the podcast.
SPEAKER_03:They're like, hey, these guys are pissed. Yeah, get this going. We better get ourselves in gear today and start rolling out these updates. Yep. And so they are. So we, you know, we commend you when you do something good. We appreciate that. Thank you, Samson, for thank you. Rolling it out. The people deserve timely software updates. So hopefully we see the same thing with 8.5 because when you eight is a pretty small release, so probably a little bit easier. The real test is will we get 8.5 really quickly on the S25 series? How quickly will they release 8.5 after the S26 launch? Is it gonna take one month, two months? Are they gonna put the privacy display software feature on there, or are they gonna hoard that? My guess is they're gonna hoard that for the S26 launch.
SPEAKER_00:Probably, yeah. I mean, it'll be dumb if they do.
SPEAKER_03:I'm thinking if you want that S26 series, if you want the privacy display, get ready to purchase that S26. Yeah, probably the ultra. They might even make it exclusive to the Ultra. So yeah, get ready. Yeah, get ready. Get ready for the shell at 1300 plus minimum. And with that, while you're saving up to purchase that S26 Ultra this week, keep expanding your galaxy.