SammyGuru with Jeff Springer

One UI 8 Stable Release Is Here + Meta Turns Up The Heat On Samsung's XR Plans

Jeff Springer and Torrey Martin Season 1 Episode 44

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Jeff and Tori discuss the frustrating rollout of One UI 8, which has reached carrier-locked devices worldwide but still hasn't come to unlocked Samsung phones purchased directly from the company.

• Jeff announces his YouTube channel restructuring, moving Samsung-specific content to the Sammy Guru channel
• One UI 8 global rollout has begun but is mysteriously missing on US unlocked devices
• Detailed walkthrough of One UI 8 features including adaptive clock, secure folder improvements, and enhanced multitasking
• Samsung is already working on One UI 8.5 with test builds appearing on servers
• Galaxy XR headset confirmed for October 21st release at approximately $2,000
• Discussion of Meta's new Ray-Ban Display glasses with Neural Band and how they compare to traditional XR headsets
• Confirmation that Samsung's tri-fold phone will come to the US by end of 2025
• Analysis of iPhone 17's anti-glare coating versus Samsung's solution
• Criticism of Samsung adding advertisements to smart refrigerators

If you enjoy our Samsung coverage, subscribe to the Sammy Guru YouTube channel for daily Samsung content while Jeff's personal channel will expand to cover broader tech topics.


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Speaker 1:

Welcome back everybody. This is episode number 44 of the Sammy Guru podcast. My name is Jeff Springer. With me, as always, my co-host, tori. Tori, say hi, hey, how are you?

Speaker 2:

Hey, how are you? And?

Speaker 1:

yeah, we're back on a Thursday. A couple reasons we did the show late this week. One, tori had stuff going on but I've been sick. You guys can probably still hear Tuesday.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I could have even done a podcast because I don't think I could have talked for more than two or three minutes, you can still probably hear my voice.

Speaker 1:

Anybody who's watched my video content this week you probably know it's like I've struggled through it, but you know this is my job now. So it's not, you know, like I can't just be, like I'm not going to do it.

Speaker 2:

It's not like it's not my hobby anymore, like when I was working at Torrey. How about you? So far, so good, just getting grading in, and I was wrong about the date for the football game, which you guys probably can't even go either because you're sick, but it's tonight.

Speaker 1:

Is it?

Speaker 2:

really yeah. Yeah, I thought it was tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

I thought it was on Friday.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I thought so too, but I guess Scottsdale schools play.

Speaker 1:

They play their varsity games on Friday. Well, dang, I was thinking about going tomorrow. Dang, that's.

Speaker 2:

But we got another top contender coming two weeks from now Mesa, A home game. Is that a home game? Yeah, a home game.

Speaker 1:

I'll tell Nicole We'll go to that one, yeah, yeah yeah, because she did want to take the boys, because Nathaniel's never been to football. Jonathan went when she was at Kellis.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, Of course Kellis always got blown out, so he's never seen anybody win a football game. Yeah, I know, kellis was really bad when she was there.

Speaker 1:

They didn't win a single game. One season they were 0-10 or whatever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think it's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Kellis is not really a football powerhouse.

Speaker 2:

Well, mesa should be a good game, because I don't know if you heard, but there was a school in California that was a pretty competitive school. They had to forfeit their games due to some, you know, like paying players. So you know you ain't supposed to be doing that.

Speaker 1:

The NIL doesn't exist in high school.

Speaker 2:

No, it does not, and so a lot of those players came to Arizona, and their top four players are going to Mesa.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's not necessarily good for your school, though it is not.

Speaker 2:

But it should make a good game, because we actually beat Mesa last year.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, well, yeah, yeah, I mean it's probably only a matter of time before they get the NIL in the high school. Right, they're like hey, they're doing it in college. Why not trickle it down?

Speaker 2:

It's trickle down economics. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1:

You got to trickle the money down from the NFL, trickle down to the college, now trickle down to the high school, and then they'll be like well, we pay the middle school players, why not the peewee players?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, why not, why not Go?

Speaker 1:

ahead and get them, while they're young, around 10 years old Scout the quarterbacks at the peewee game.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

The my son's 10. Yes, come on. I know, yeah, calm down. Hey, how are you? But yeah, we got a lot of tech and Samsung news this week and, to start off the show, I had a fairly big piece of news on my YouTube channel today. Tori was teaching so you probably didn't see it, but I made a channel update on my channel. I finally made the decision that my channel is. I've teased this for a while on the podcast. I'm finally going to just basically start opening up extra, you know, new possibilities for my channel and doing stuff outside of Samsung, which means the Sammy guru YouTube channel is now Samsung every day, so there'll be daily videos. All of my daily Samsung content is now being moved to the Sammy Guru channel. We've exploded in growth on the Sammy Guru channel. We're almost at 2,500 subscribers there. I imagine we'll probably get to 10,000 by the end of the year.

Speaker 1:

A lot of the people who are subscribed to my channel, of course, are going and subscribing over there. So if you are subscribed to me, please, if you enjoy the Samsung content, do that. I hope you guys will stick around for my journey, on my personal channel too, of doing more tech. And I just want to talk about the beginning, because a lot of people ask you know why I decided to do this. Well, a couple reasons. One Sammy Guru in the name it's Samsung only, so it only makes sense that my Samsung specific content would live on the Sammy Guru YouTube channel. That's why I created it.

Speaker 1:

I had this long-term vision when I created that channel back in February of this year that eventually I didn't know exactly when, I didn't know if it was going to be this year, in 2026. Eventually I would start pushing all the Samsung stuff there, and then I wasn't sure at that time what I would do on my channel. But after thinking about it I was like well, you know, when I first started YouTube 12 years ago, I kind of did a little of everything. It wasn't just Samsung. I reviewed other smartphone brands Motorola, Pixel, even the iPhone, Huawei, Xiaomi. I reviewed everything Tablets, computers, headphones, smart home tech. I reviewed all the things and so I was like man, I really would kind of like to go back to you know, getting to try some different stuff while still serving our Samsung audience, Cause I still love Samsung. That's why I started doing Samsung only in the beginnings, because it was my favorite smartphone brand of all of them, and that's why I started doing so much Samsung content and got really popular and I'm really thankful. So we can still serve our Samsung audience.

Speaker 1:

I'll be making videos daily on the Sammy grew channel Uh, and that'll integrate the website, Cause now all that content is under the same name and it all makes sense, Uh, and then on my channel, hopefully everyone will stick around. I'll still be doing tech. It's not like I'm changing. It's like I'm going from doing a smartphone videos to a cooking channel. I'm not going to be making flambe on my channel. No, you know nothing like that.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you could Duck a l'orange. You could, if you would, I could you know.

Speaker 1:

I'm a pretty good cook, I can make some duck a l'orange, but that's not what I'm going to do. I would imagine that if I started going from a tech channel to a cooking channel, a lot of people would probably unsubscribe, because they'd be like well, it's not what I signed up for, but hopefully, because I'm not really going to be doing, you know, something crazy different.

Speaker 1:

it's going to be pretty similar to what I did before. I hope a lot of you guys will still stick around. I'll be doing a lot of smartphone stuff. I'm still planning to do, you know, xiaomi, motorola. The Xiaomi 17 Pro is coming out next week. I'm going to get that and import those phones from China and other places that I used to do early in my YouTube career, pre pandemic, uh, and start doing some of those long form reviews again that I enjoy doing. And then I'll do some smart home.

Speaker 1:

Um, I just got the remarkable paper pro move. Have you seen that? It's like a E ink tablet that you can just you just use it for taking notes. It's kind of like a Kindle but it feels like real paper. Um, they one of those. I'm going to be doing a review on that. So a lot of general tech stuff. I think it'll be a lot of fun. If you like smartphones, you'll still probably love the channel, because I would still say probably about two-thirds of the content will probably be smartphones. It's just going to be other stuff outside of Samsung only. And then, of course, you still get your Samsung to host at the same year channel. What get your Samsung to host at the same year channel? What do you think, tori?

Speaker 2:

Do you think we can blow it up here? You like this approach? Oh yeah, no, I think it's going to be a good move. You know, like cause we definitely want to keep blowing up the same guru side and I think just having his own dedicated YouTube channel for content, I think that's going to help. But then also, like you know, you gotta, you gotta be able to explore the other avenues, and I know you still love the other tech and you still want to be in the know and just kind of see what's going on in other avenues, and so I think it's going to be a good move, and it also lets me be a lot more informed when I talk about comparing Samsung to other brands.

Speaker 1:

Because the fact of the matter is, you know, you can be a Samsung fanboy. And closed off.

Speaker 1:

But you can't really say that Samsung is leading in something if you haven't tried the other thing. It's like how do you know Samsung is beating Apple, google, xiaomi in AI if you haven't tried any of their AI features? Or how do you know that the camera is leading if you haven't tried the other cameras? So I feel like it helps me broaden my horizons and also a bit of a little more fun. You know, get sent some review units that I wouldn't normally get sent because I'm finally doing a little more general stuff, open up some other possibilities for my personal channel. So I'm really excited about that. And, um, that doesn't mean we're going to be talking about anything other than Samsung on this podcast.

Speaker 1:

This is a little Sammy guru podcast Um, but I just want to let everybody know that you can find the Sammy guru channel that is full-time, full throttle now, so there'll be daily videos there, so subscribe for that samsung content. Um, let's just start with software. When ui8 global rollout started this week, but guess what?

Speaker 2:

we still don't have it tory yeah, I know because samsung you said it. When I came in I was like I haven't gotten an update.

Speaker 1:

It's like I thought you told me I was getting an update this week, it's rolling out. Samsung has pushed the update to every single country and device and all the locked carrier devices in the US, but not the unlocked units that people actually bought from Samsung themselves.

Speaker 2:

What the?

Speaker 1:

hell is going on.

Speaker 2:

I'm so sick of this garbage man.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, I mean other countries getting it first, that's fine. I mean I know the US usually gets it early, like Korea, so let other people have their shine. That's great, you guys shine. India, australia, canada, go out there and get you some. I'm all about it. Congrats to you guys. But why are you going to push it out to the Verizon locked units, the AT&T locked units that people bought from the carrier directly and not give it to me?

Speaker 2:

I bought my phone from you, me and Tony bought directly Day and not give it to me.

Speaker 1:

I bought my phone from you. Me and Tori bought directly Day one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right at 7 or whatever time it was in the morning. We got up. We were live streaming, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Buying tons of phones, selling tons of phones on YouTube Live streaming. The event this year in January.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's like screwing over the people who are with you right there.

Speaker 1:

These are your most loyal fans that buy the unlocked units, so why are you not pushing that out to those people? I just don't get it. So, anyway, samsung said you know September 18th was going to be the rollout to the S25. And basically everyone's got it except the U? S unlocked units. Uh, this is the only one left that I know. That doesn't have it All the carriers pushed out. Today. Everyone keeps asking me, like Jeff, did you get that stable update?

Speaker 2:

No, I mean luckily I'm on One UI 8.

Speaker 1:

I'm on One UI 8 beta, so it's basically the last beta is very similar to the stable, but I mean, I just want it because I think it's so silly that other people aren't getting it, because people like Tori they're not on the beta. They want a taste of that One UI 8. Yeah, I do. They paid their money to bought his phone from AT&T getting the update when Tori's not getting the update.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's just let's check her. I mean like it is like let's check our phones right now, just for fun. I'm going to check the software update button right now.

Speaker 1:

You know, just check it live, Maybe something changed. I checked it like 25 minutes ago, but you never know you know weirder things. What a joke. But maybe tori, you know, you never know, because tori didn't have the beta. Sometimes they push it out to the non-beta users first. Maybe tori will have it and I won't see.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you never know. The last update was installed august 28th tori's checking for updates suspenseful radio this is what they call great radio. Let's see here is checking updates the update is being checked. Boom, boom says your software is up to date One UI version 7.

Speaker 1:

What a joke.

Speaker 2:

Tori's getting screwed over too I am, so no one on the beta or the not people who didn't have the beta.

Speaker 1:

If you had the unlocked, nobody has it. Yeah, very frustrating, but I digress. I mean it's great that a lot of people are getting it. We also got that schedule which we talked about last week. Samsung, there's a leak schedule. So basically what's going to happen is this week the s25 rolls out, next week the s24 and, like the first week of october, the s23 and the s22 will get it. Uh, and then, like the fold six and the flip six get it the first week of october and then the update like continues from there, like the dominoes, you know, will fall where it's like okay, all the all the flagships get it, then all the A-series gets it, then all the lower tier get it, and then the tablets are still not scheduled to get it until November according to Samsung's schedule. But I don't think that's going to be right. Hopefully they'll get them in October.

Speaker 1:

Like at least last year's tablet, because that's expensive device. Yeah, it is, you pay $1,300 for your Tab S10. Ultra and they tell you you gotta wait two months to buy to get the update they're like. Well, you need to buy the Tab S11 Ultra it just came out last week. Why have you bought that? Go trade in your Tab S10 Ultra and get $800 trading credit. I'm like guys, I don't want to pay $400 extra just to get one UI8.

Speaker 1:

The Tab S10 and the Tab S11 are basically the same tablet. Why am I going to do that? But anyway, yeah, I mean, when UI8's rolling out, I made a video on the first 10 things to do. It's on the Sammy Guru channel like things to do when you actually get the update. So Tori will want to watch that when he gets his update. You know, they're basically, you know, just running down the reminding, the features, because it's been a while since the first beta came out. You got the adaptive clock, which kind of sort of finally works. Um, it didn't work in the beginning very well, but finally on the last beta they kind of figured it out. I would recommend trying it. I mean, the one thing that's a downside for me is that it only works with pictures of people and pets yeah, and I use a lot of texture, like gradient wallpapers and stuff that aren't people or pets.

Speaker 1:

I also use a lot of pictures of people. My kids use my wallpapers. Occasionally I have them rotate. I chose this one that's like an AI-generated dog just because it matched my background for the thumbnail. This is the thumbnail I did for the video, so it kind of pops. You know you got to give the algorithm what it wants, so it recommends that video. But this is not a wallpaper I would use typically, but it works because it's a dog and so that's what you need for that adaptive clock. Uh, the other big changes in one ui8 you've got secure folder. They redesigned it. You can now have specific fingerprints that get you in a secure folder in case you're doing some shady stuff. You know you don't want your significant other to find any of those contraband files that you have, you know covert ops that you've got running.

Speaker 1:

Um, you can actually hide the secure folder entirely now, which also helps with those covert ops. Samsung is all about the covert ops with the secure folder and they also redesign the architecture. So no longer does it use android's workspace profile, it uses its private space, which makes sure that secure folder doesn't leak your data. Because before, on One UI 7, there was a bug. Both us and Sam Mobile pointed out this bug where, basically, if you had stories saved in your gallery and secure folder, if you had photos that were in there like, say, you had some illicit photographs, you know, or whatever you do, you know it's none of my business. But if you had them in there and they were organized automatically using the AI generated stories, if someone was like just on your phone, they might get a notification that says, take a look at these stories and they would actually be the ones from your secure folder and not the stories in your regular gallery. So they'd be like. You'd be like what kind of story?

Speaker 2:

is this, yeah, like whoa, hey, how are you, you guys gotta whoa and they're like, yeah whoa, how did that get there, my notifications? Uh, so you gotta be kind of careful, but now that was.

Speaker 1:

That won't happen anymore. Um, you got redesigned multitasking now with a split window, you now have the ability to basically uh, if you want you, you can now get a 90-10 split for multitasking. So I'll show you the way this works here. Tori, if you have two applications before, you would only be able to go down a certain amount.

Speaker 1:

Now you can go all the way down to 90% of this app and 10% of this one All right, that's pretty nice, so you can switch back and forth, like if you're doing something in this app that requires a little more space, you can go all the way down, which is kind of nice, instead of just having it 60, 40, which I think is what you had before.

Speaker 1:

So that's a pretty nice feature. You have call captions now inside of the phone app, so if you're in a loud place, you'll be able to get captions on the screen of what the other person is saying. So you know like if you're like in a you know nightclub or something and your wife calls.

Speaker 2:

It's like, hey, where are you?

Speaker 1:

And you know you probably should just hang up in the nightclub, you're in a lot of trouble. But in case you want to continue the conversation, you can get call captions. If it's really loud in the club, you'll be able to hear all the things that, all the expletives that she's saying to you. You know well, it actually won't show you those because bixby doesn't like to translate curse words.

Speaker 2:

But you know it'll try to approximate them.

Speaker 1:

It'll be like get your freaking bleepity bleep back here and it'll capture the call for you so that's a pretty cool feature.

Speaker 1:

Um, there's a couple of cool wallpaper features in here. You've got the suggested images for wallpapers and I actually thought that this was not that interesting when I first got the One UI 8 beta, but it's actually really good at picturing photos that you would want to use for your wallpapers. Like it's got some good ones of my kids and like this photo I took of the New York skyline when I was there for unpacked and it's actually got some nice florals I took too. Like this is a nice floral I took from the Bellagio and this is one I took somewhere outside for a camera test. It's got some good.

Speaker 1:

It surfaces good images Like it uses AI and it does a good job of picking them, so I would recommend giving that a shot. I mean, if you have a large number of photos on your device, it does a pretty good job of.

Speaker 2:

Whenever I ever get, whenever you get it, I'm just telling Tori all the things he can do? He's like dangling in my carrot.

Speaker 1:

In the next like 10 days, when they finally push it to the unlocked device. You think it might be 10 days.

Speaker 2:

No, hopefully not.

Speaker 1:

I'm hoping it's tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

I'm hoping it's two. If it's not, tomorrow I'm going to be pinning an opinion piece at Sammy Gruber saying what the hell is going on.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to send them an email to my contact at Samsung and be like what the hell, where's the update for US? Unlocked? Under the colors section, there's two new dynamic wallpapers and basically what this does is it changes this gradient with the time of the day. So basically, the colors will change as the time elapses. That's actually a really cool one. There's four different styles. There's like one that has like a little spot that moves around with the time of day. There's like a gradient that cascades down, and then there's this one that's got like a bigger blob, but all the colors change as like the sun rises and sunsets oh I like that.

Speaker 1:

That's a pretty cool wallpaper. The sun rises and sunsets oh I like that. That's a pretty cool wallpaper. So there's a couple of cool wallpaper features secure folder, adaptive clock, multitasking. There's new Samsung DeX.

Speaker 1:

For those of you who's used DeX, this is not a massive update like One UI 7. I mean we have a full list of the changes at Sammy Guru and I did that video. But in terms of user facing features, I mean there's not like something like you're going to get this and be like this is so different than One UI 7. It's not going to blow your mind. One UI 6.1 to One UI 7 was like a massive change, like it rocked your world, blew your socks off. But this one's not going to blow your socks off. You're not going to get in and be like, wow, this is totally different. It's not.

Speaker 1:

Some people have even said they should have been One UI 7.1, but that's not Samsung's. There's a reason they're not doing that. Samsung has already said the new version numbers. The big number is going to change when Google changes the Android version. So this is Android 16 just came out, so they're going to change the One UI number at the beginning to go from seven to eight, and then, in the middle of the cycle for the S26 launch, they'll change the second number, so that'll be one UI 8.5. So that's the new naming strategy. I don't know, tori, what do you think of these features that I showed you? Which one seems like it's most interesting to you? What do you think that you might be most interested in using of those?

Speaker 2:

to you. What do you think that you might be most interested in using of those? Yeah, uh, I mean I'm kind of basic where I kind of keep the wallpaper that comes with it right out of the box, so I still have the regular samsung wallpaper there you go but uh, I am excited for two things. I did like that dynamic uh wallpaper where it just kind of changes with the time.

Speaker 1:

It looks nice. I think yeah.

Speaker 2:

But on top of that I actually did like how you can multitask and how you can just kind of decrease the screen so that way you can kind of work on whichever one that you think or whichever one that you really need to work on and needs more space. Then you can just minimize it by putting it down at 10%, putting the other window 90%. So I think it gives the user a lot of flexibility and I think it's kind of mimicking some stuff that you could do on the fold and just kind of making the Slap phone a little bit more versatile.

Speaker 1:

Definitely. There's one other thing too, I forgot to tell you. Now in the Now Brief you have this little thing that'll read aloud your NowBrief.

Speaker 2:

Do you remember that there's NowBrief? Yeah, yeah, they actually added some new stuff to the NowBrief.

Speaker 1:

They added Google Finance and a few other things to the NowBrief too.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I actually like that, so they've added more things Parking spot reminders.

Speaker 1:

There's actually quite a few things that you can get in the NowBrief now. Hope your day is going as planned.

Speaker 2:

A little robotic. Yeah, it is a little robotic, but I will take it as a step in the right direction.

Speaker 1:

But at least then you know, like in the morning, if you do want to get some of the stories that they have in the Now Brief and the weather, you can just hit that while you're getting ready and it'll read you the stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1:

Give you some suggestions for news stories you might want in the weather, like I've been doing that, and then I don't have to actually scroll through it. So in that case, if if the stories are a waste of time which a lot of times they are, yeah, I know, because they need to do a better job of surfacing stories that I want. They still don't do a very good job of that but if they're a waste of time at least then I didn't spend the time to read it because I'm in there brushing my teeth while I'm listening to it, so I don't feel like I wasted any of my time.

Speaker 1:

So that's made me use the NowBrief a little more, now that they added the read aloud feature, because I don't feel like I'm wasting so much time, so you might like that feature too.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, I do because I see this probably one, and we talked about this before on the podcast. You know I really thought they could do a lot with the NowBrief but I mean it's been kind of lackluster, at least to me, and I mean it's been kind of lackluster, at least to me, and so I think adding this and a few other things would just make it great and I like that this is, even though it sounds a little robotic-y, I think this is a step in the right direction Because, like in the mornings, I like to listen to like the news or something, and then scan through, like my sleep score and my energy score. Make the now brief great again.

Speaker 1:

Energy score so make the now brief great again yes, make the now brief great again man, man, yeah manga, yeah manga, make the now brief great again. All right now. Um, that's great segue, though, tori, because guess what, what? I think the now brief is going to get better, or a lot of ai stuff is going to get better in One UI 8.5. And guess what? Today, as Samsung is rolling out One UI 8 to all these devices except for ours.

Speaker 2:

The beta comes open.

Speaker 1:

No, not the beta, but test builds on Samsung servers, which all the super hardcore enthusiasts. They rip those builds from the servers and download them, and so the One UI 8.5 test build appeared on those test servers last night. We reported on this, so Samsung is already working on One UI 8.5, which is not a surprise. I mean, the S26 launch is only four months away.

Speaker 2:

And so if they hadn't started?

Speaker 1:

working on software that would be on the phone. That'd be really bad news.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that would be really bad news, so I hope they already start working on it.

Speaker 1:

But those test builds started appearing for the S25 series. We were able to get our hands on one, but the bad news is I know a lot of people were thinking we were going to be able to have a One UI 8.5 video today or tomorrow. The build doesn't install. We tried to install it.

Speaker 1:

It actually turns the phone completely black. It goes to the Samsung logo and then your phone turns completely black. Luckily, our writer, gerwin. He was the one who took the plunge for us. He was able to flashback the old build because he's very savvy, and it was fine. His phone's not bricked. But the build is no good, the one that was on the test server. I don't know if Samsung put that there to trick us. They like hey, you guys like ripping test builds here's one that's gonna break your device you guys, have fun.

Speaker 1:

You're blogging guys. You, you know, trying to get some inside information for some clicks. It's not happening today. They said you're gonna learn today, you're gonna learn today, learn today. Um, but anyway, I thought it might be kind of fun, even though we don't necessarily know precisely, since we don't, we weren't able to run the test build. What is new? Because we probably will find a test build that does run in the next few weeks.

Speaker 1:

I'm yeah it's just not right now, but I'm sure eventually I mean, there will be a test build someone will get their hands on. You know, these people are good and luckily we have sources that that get these their hands on these builds, so we should have one at some point. I'm I'm thinking what do we want to see in 108.8.5? So I put here what do we like to see in 1.8.5? So, dory, is there anything you feel like Samsung could bring to the software? I'm thinking that 1.8.5 is going to focus a lot on AI features. So what AI features right now that we have, or ones that we even don't have, that you would like to see Samsung improve or bring Cause? I know you said the now brief.

Speaker 1:

I think there's a good chance.

Speaker 2:

We probably oh yeah, I think AI could be utilized for that. I think AI can be utilized in a lot of ways where it's not like obviously, or what is it on the pixel, where there's just like AI everywhere and it just automatically does stuff. I wouldn't want that. I would like the option to have like just certain things, but I think a lot of like passive things, so like doing better with summarizing text messages the noun brief and that's exactly one of the things that I was at on my list they brought up.

Speaker 1:

Let's bring that up. Samsung hasn't done that yet. Remember we heard with One UI 8, ice Universe actually said that they would eventually bring the notification summaries.

Speaker 1:

We haven't seen that yet, so I think that's what you're talking about is summarizing text messages and stuff. The Samsung phone doesn't do that yet. The iPhone does, but I kind of think Samsung may have waited on that because the iPhone does a crappy job of it. You guys remember I told you the story last year when it first rolled out on the iphone. Um, you know, I had a notification from my nest doorbell saying the police were at my door. It was halloween and I was like whoa wait, why are the police at my door? It was just some trick-or-treaters.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was like gotta calm down ai. Hey, how are you? Don't give me a heart attack.

Speaker 1:

Um, I was like man, I didn't do it guys, uh, i't do it.

Speaker 2:

I know what you're here for. I plead the fizzeth.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean the fizzeth, but anyway, yeah, I mean so maybe Samsung waited on that because they're like we don't want crappy notification summaries. So you're saying maybe they could add that. I think that will come.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, actually, don't you think that?

Speaker 1:

would make the Now Brief a lot more useful.

Speaker 2:

I think so too. It definitely would. I think it would help in it. Yeah, I feel like the Now Brief. I would like just a little bit more like what I envision. The Now Brief is like it's almost there, but I mean, my news is always very lackluster. There's only ever like one article. I do like that. It tells me like what event that I have going on and a weather, but I would like for it to kind of give me like the rundown kind of like how, like alexa, just think about it.

Speaker 1:

Wouldn't it be awesome? What I what I think would be awesome for the now brief? Because, since we're talking about this, this is the main feature, actually, that I was going to talk about too, so we can talk about it for a minute. I feel like I get so many because I obviously run a business and I also have all these social channels. I get so many notifications and emails overnight while I'm sleeping. It'd be awesome if I wake up in the now brief and it summarizes here are the important emails that you need to respond to. Here's the garbage you don't need to respond to, and I can triage that if I want. Here's a summary of your text messages, your your social notifications, and puts that in the now brief and it could read those aloud to me yeah and then I make it, can make a plan like, okay, I need to respond to these emails.

Speaker 1:

This person messaged me, this is a comment I want to respond to and I don't need to actually look at it, because he could just read it to me and I can just be thinking while I'm brushing my teeth. Let me me do this pick up my phone, go to those specific things. It'd even be great if it could pull those out and then it could actually open those specific emails for me in Gmail and I could respond to them. Bing, bam, boom, wouldn't that be? That would be making me check the NowBrief every day. Then I would find the NowBrief to be incredibly useful because it's actually helping me get some extra work done.

Speaker 2:

And actually I kind of want to take that idea a little bit further. One thing I was thinking what I do appreciate is that it does tell me, like if I were my watch, my sleep score, my energy score, if, like as it's going through, if I can ask it, hey, how can I improve? Because a lot of times I do like that information that it says, but I don't have time to read it all. It would be really nice if, as I'm getting ready, brushing my teeth and stuff is going off in the background, it can kind of also just kind of tell me that passive information.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

What can I do to increase my scores?

Speaker 1:

Because everybody wants to have a better score.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, yeah, I mean nine times out of 10 is just going to sleep earlier.

Speaker 1:

And that's really hard.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is really hard man.

Speaker 1:

So, like Bixby, you don't understand how difficult it is to go to sleep earlier. Oh yeah, I know, because Bixby is a machine. She doesn't understand how hard it can be, Because you've got procrastination to do. Yeah, I do. You've got some TV to catch up on, and then we've got some YouTube videos to catch up on. Yep, and you've got to read some Reddit posts. All of it, catch up on the X, scroll through there and then finally do some work around like 1 in the morning.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what makes it difficult, that's what makes it hard to get to sleep.

Speaker 1:

If you want to understand.

Speaker 2:

But other than that, though, I'm trying to think of like better quality of life things, and honestly I think I would just want a more enhanced. Now, brief, everything else I really do like about the phone.

Speaker 1:

We do know one thing, actually. I just realized we found in the Samsung Health app two days ago. We found it before anybody else. Android Authority posted it slightly after us, so we probably found it around the same time, but we broke the news. Samsung is working on a health assistant chatbot.

Speaker 2:

That'd be cool Like ChatGPT, that'd be real cool.

Speaker 1:

We uncovered it and we actually were able to use it and play with it. Basically, it's going to be in Samsung Health and, just like what you were saying, you can type to it and you can say how can I improve my health based on my data? Cause it has all this data about your health. So you can say, like how can I? You know I want to lose 10 pounds what can I change about my daily habits based on the data that you have to do that.

Speaker 1:

I want to improve my sleep score by 10 points. What could I do to do that? Et cetera. So you can ask your medications and stuff in there it also knows what you take medication wise, how much exercise you get, sleep you get so it really could be useful. The funny thing is, after we found it two days ago, samsung took the service offline yesterday, so you can't play with it anymore. They they obviously noticed that we uncovered it and they're like you guys weren't supposed to see that.

Speaker 2:

They're like sorry, I'm sorry, guys, that's not even there right now. You guys thought you saw something but it's not there.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to take another look. So, anyway, if you guys saw our article or you saw the Android Authority article and you went and tried to enable this, they basically took the chatbot offline. So you can see the UI, but it won't respond or do anything. But I think they did this probably for they probably did this for like a compliance reason, because if it's not fully tuned, what if it gives somebody bad health advice?

Speaker 2:

while we're playing with it.

Speaker 1:

And that person acts on that and then they sue them. Well, you know that wouldn't be good. So I didn't really think about that until after it went offline and sumit's like why do you think they did that? I was like, well, probably because they don't want to get sued, because you know someone could still sue them even though you know, samsung could be like we were just trying.

Speaker 1:

They were just trying a feature that we didn't even release yet, I know, and the judge will be like, we still got to give them them $5 million. Samsung, pay these people their money. Thank you. And so they probably don't want to pay a $5 million lawsuit. So they're like let's just hit the off button. Someone hit the big red button, We'll turn that off.

Speaker 1:

Yep, it's gone, sorry. So anyway, we do know that's coming. Actually, that is one thing that is confirmed the health assistant that will be coming, so that's going to be a part of One UI 8.5. I would imagine that probably doesn't arrive until 8.5. I don't think they'll do it in the interim because that's a pretty big feature. That seems like something, because I think One UI 8.5 is going to be all about AI improvements. It'll be a bigger update than One UI 8, because One UI 7 was so big that with 1 UI 8, they're like let's just chill, keep it kind of chill, make sure we don't do too much so we can roll out the update on time, which they still haven't done for our phone. So where the hell is it? Somebody get busy on hitting the button to push that update to my phone.

Speaker 1:

And then the other thing is look at this when I was waiting for the update on my Galaxy Z Fold 7 for september, I waited for like 10 days and then I finally got the update. This is also an unlocked model. And then look at this up. Look at this message I got couldn't download the update because the server has reached its daily download limit. What the hell is this samsung? This was the same day they released one. You, I ate in korea. How can you have a daily download limit? That's honestly embarrassing yourself, man. You guys got to do something about this update process. Me and tori and the whole sammy guru team. We're getting behind, uh, we're championing a cause that you guys need to start rolling out the update day one for every region for at least the current year flagships and the previous year flagships agreed at a minimum.

Speaker 1:

At a minimum, you can do that. I understand. I don't see how they can't do that. I understand that they make phones that have a variety of processors and power and price, unlike Apple, so they can't do every phone in one day. But this year flagship and last year easy. You could easily do that. There's not too many phones. They all have sufficient power for the current features you're rolling out. Just do it Someone, make it happen, because that is one of the things that really does annoy Samsung users, who are loyalists, and make them think about going to Apple, because Apple rolled out iOS 26 this week too. I think that's why Samsung rolled out One UI 8.

Speaker 2:

It's because Apple was rolling out the new iOS and they're like hey, well, we can do it too.

Speaker 1:

But they ended up making themselves look like fools because, guess what, when Apple pushes the update button, every iPhone in the entire world gets the update at the same time and you can download it and install it without a message that says sorry, you reached the download limit or any of that stuff.

Speaker 1:

I got iOS 26 on all my devices iPads, iphones, everything and the new macOS and I downloaded all of them. I had no problems. And that's Samsung. You've got to work on that, man. So we're championing a cause at Sammy Guru. Hopefully other people will join us, at least the current year S series and Z series and the previous year. So this year the S 25, s 24, z fold seven, z flip seven, z fold six, z flip six. They should all have the update at the same time. No questions asked. Don't ask any questions, cause there's nothing to ask.

Speaker 2:

Just do it.

Speaker 1:

All right. So we talked to all software in the first half. Here In the second half of the show, once we take our little you know breaky break, we're going to talk hardware. We got a lot of interesting stuff. The Galaxy XR release date has been officially confirmed Interesting. So we now know. Also, samsung has this plan for this crazy XR headset. But Meta is throwing a wrench in everybody's.

Speaker 1:

XR plans because they brought this crazy Meta Ray-Ban with display for $799. And the reviews are very compelling. I've been watching them. The last day I actually scheduled a demo fitting for these at Best Buy for October 3rd, because that's the earliest one I could get. I'm going to try these out. Oh no, I'm excited for that Because you can get prescription lenses for them, probably going to cost me way too much money, but we'll talk about that, because it has the built-in display.

Speaker 1:

Yep, that's right, plus the prescription lenses.

Speaker 1:

They charge you out the ass for that. They're like you can't see. Well, we've got to charge you a lot of money for that. Sorry, the trifold has also been confirmed. Now to come to the us and we'll talk a little bit about the iphone versus the samsung anti-glare display, because everyone's talking about how great apple is for putting that anti-glare on all their phones. But but they didn't tell you the whole story, and so we're gonna tell you the story after we hear from the sponsor of today's podcast.

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Speaker 1:

All right, everybody, we're back. We're going to talk some hardware. I'd like to, uh, do it hard, as always. Um and uh, we have a couple of pieces. We'll start with the galaxy xr. The galaxy xr apparently has an official release date. Um, we knew it was coming. Obviously.

Speaker 2:

Are there any renderings of this thing yet?

Speaker 1:

Well, actually we've seen the actual device. So they showed it off with Google last year, so you can actually see it here. If you can see it in our thumbnail, I'll show it to you really quick. Let me go into the article. See it right here. Oh, there it is. It kind of looks like the Apple Vision.

Speaker 2:

Pro right?

Speaker 1:

Yep, it looks very much like the Apple Vision Pro, right? Yep, it looks very much like the Apple Vision Pro, but it's now reportedly planned to go on sale on October 21st and Samsung will be hosting an online event. Hopefully I get invited yeah, I mean to the actual event. I'm not online.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't like when people invite you to online events. No, they're like we invite you to come watch this video. I'm like, well, that doesn't really make me feel special as the media. I can watch the video if I'm just a regular person yeah, yeah, yeah. I just go to YouTube and log in.

Speaker 2:

I want to be there. I want to be there In the thick of it.

Speaker 1:

But it's probably going to be launched in Korea. So I actually now know they're going to call it Galaxy XR, because we found the references in an application that shows that it's going to be called Galaxy XR, but it's going to cost around $2,000, which is $1,500 cheaper than the Vision Pro, but still not what we would call cheap. Me and Dory have talked about this many times.

Speaker 1:

I just don't see very many people paying $2,000 for this has micro OLED panels from Samsung Display with a high resolution of 3800 PPI, which is about 500 PPI or 400 PPI higher than the Vision Pro, so it'll have higher resolution. It's powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 plus Gen 2 chipset and comes with 16 gigs of RAM for demanding XR content and applications. Samsung's also going to support prescription lenses, which, again, I'm sure I'll have to pay extra money for that too.

Speaker 1:

My glasses are going to cost me a lot of money this year, and I just bought regular glasses and I'll be like Jeff you already used up your vision insurance benefits this year, so now you got to pay us $1,000 for your meta Ray-Ban display glasses and gotta pay a thousand dollars for your meta ray-ban display glasses and another thousand for your vision pro. I'll be like guys, I mean your x, galaxy, xr lenses. I'll be like damn man, what's going on here? Um, the idea here, of course, is that samsung really wants to get in on xr, but they're kind of late to the game here, and that's kind of why I wanted to talk about these two things simultaneously, because meta launched a product that is a little more compelling to me than this one, honestly.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I know this is a samsung show, but we also have to put it in the context of what they're competing with when they're entering a new market, and samsung is obviously entering this xr market, and there's essentially two different form factors when you're talking about the XR market, right, there's like the headset, which is like a heavier thing and you're supposed to use it like in your house or in your office or whatever.

Speaker 1:

And then there's like the XR glasses, which is just like a pair of glasses, like I'm wearing right now, that have technology built into them and those are not meant to be just used inside your house or your office, they're meant to be used everywhere.

Speaker 1:

You can use them on the go, get information on the go, see overlays on the go, right of your surroundings and all that kind of stuff. And so to me, I don't know what you think, tori, but before we talk about the differences between the two devices and I do think the xr that samsung is releasing is better positioned than apple because it's 1500 cheaper and also they have a lot of support for google, um and I. You know we saw the ui when they showed it off with google they have a lot of partner support and app support and stuff like that, um. But I still feel like for me that and we've heard samsung is going to launch glasses of their own next year, in 2026 but I still feel like the glasses are the better form factor for xr than the headset. What do you think? We'll talk about the two devices in a second, but what do you think about the differences?

Speaker 2:

uh, yeah, like. So, look, I think, for the headsets, uh, it's a hard sell, uh, I'm I don't even know a lot of people who even have do you know anybody who has a vision?

Speaker 1:

yeah, I, I really don't, outside of my youtuber friends, that like I don't, I have no one. Yeah, but I don't know. I know there is a high interest for the glasses um you know, I know quite a few regular people who are not YouTubers, who have the regular meta glasses not the new ones, but the regular meta ones that just have, like the camera and stuff.

Speaker 2:

And I know some people who have like the Ray-Bans yeah, the meta Ray-Bans Exactly the ones without the display, which are the previous gen, but they released a new one of the ones without display as well.

Speaker 1:

The display ones are compelling, but I know quite a few people have those. Oh yeah, In fact my sister, who is not really a tech person at all, she bought a pair of those, I think around Christmas last year, but I don't know anybody who has an Apple Vision Pro outside of…. I know no one and I know people have the MetaQuest as well. But remember, it's a lot cheaper.

Speaker 2:

Yes, meta quest as well, but remember, it's a lot cheaper. Yes, it is so in terms of the heads, I think I know one person has the meta quest but no one has division pro um. But I mean, even then for samson, I think it's gonna be hard sell for just I mean just because, like you would have, it is mostly so like when people come over and it's more of like, hey, I'm showing off exactly. It's kind of like it's kind of a conversation piece, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's kind of like if you are really silly person like me, yeah, and you buy a table book to put on your coffee table just to you know. Let people look at it when they come to your house. But you know, even as silly as I am, I didn't spend two thousand dollars on that table.

Speaker 1:

I spent like eighty dollars, so are you going to spend two thousand,000, plus tax, on a basically a table book to show people when they come to your house? Probably not Most people, you know, unless you're super rich, and even then you might not cause. You could just get a regular table book for $80. Like I did, be good to go. So it's really like a conversation piece or show off you know like to or show off to your friends when they come over, in order to justify the huge price of $2,000 plus. I've said this many times before on the podcast I feel like you have to be able to replace some of the productivity of your laptop or some other device has to be replaced by this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because. I just don't see that, and that's the thing. I just don't see this being something that can be easily used unless you have the free time to sit down and use it, versus the glasses are just like you're already wearing the glasses to see. Yeah, and it is replacing some of that productivity in the usage versus I need to make sure that I'm not doing really, and also the glasses don't cost two thousand plus.

Speaker 1:

So and I don't have to feel like I have to sell my laptop to buy the glasses, whereas if I buy one of these headsets the vision pro or the galaxy xr, like if I'm an average person I'd be like, oh well, man, this is like two grand, like I'm gonna need to get rid of one of my other devices.

Speaker 2:

This one needs to take the place of my expensive laptop.

Speaker 1:

No, for um but as I've seen all these demos of people using vision pro like a laptop and theoretically you can, but you have like a, a keyboard that's projected on the desk and it's like a virtual type keyboard.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't look natural and like the still the video editing apps and stuff are not there. So if you're a creative professional like me, you're not going to do. You're not going to do that. I just don't see that. Plus, the other problem which we've talked about many times is, if you want to take your work on the go, you're not strapping this headset to yourself and doing all those hand gestures in the middle of a Starbucks, whereas I can take my MacBook or my Galaxy Book laptop and sit down in a Starbucks and do my work and not look like a moron.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right, that's just a fact.

Speaker 1:

I mean not, it's not portable. So then, getting into the glasses, because samsung is also, you know, rumored to launch a pair of glasses as well. Tori and I were talking about this before the show and I actually had this on the show notes because it's such a compelling product that I feel like we should talk about it. Meta released their new Meta Rayman display glasses and Meta Neural Band yesterday $7.99. You get both the glasses and the Neural Band and I've seen reviews of this. They look fantastic.

Speaker 1:

From all the reviews I've watched on YouTube, of course, you know you actually got to check this out yourself and kind of see. You know what's going to, you know what's going to transpire. But I mean, I am planning to review these on my personal channel as part of my new, you know, push to more hardware. They look great. I mean they've got basically a display right here in the upper right corner of your right eye. You can see your notifications come in, you can reply to text messages, you can get maps, directions as you're kind of going about your day. You can use AI to get answer queries and stuff.

Speaker 1:

The only downside to it to me and a lot of reviewers on YouTube, other reviewers who've already had early hands-on is that, unfortunately, all the AI stuff is using Meta's AI.

Speaker 1:

It's not using ChatGPT or Google Gemini, which I would prefer, which is why, personally, after seeing these meta glasses and the neural band which the neural band just goes on your wrist it looks really inconspicuous, just like you know a wristband, you know like a bracelet or something. It lets you control the glasses with, like turning gestures and stuff, but it doesn't make you look as ridiculous as having this entire like Martian spaceman looking headset on in public, because they just look like regular Ray-Ban glasses and they look good. You've got a camera in them. I really feel like when Samsung releases these and they have Google services built in cause, you know they will just like the headset. This could be a killer product If it's priced correctly, similar to the meta ones at 799,. That's a good price because, honestly, uh, right now you still have to pair it to a smartphone, but honestly, if eventually they make these kind of autonomous, this would be a great way to leave your smartphone somewhere and you can still get all your smart info.

Speaker 2:

For real.

Speaker 1:

If you're like I don't really I'm going to take my phone, maybe I'm going to the beach. There's a great application because you might want some sunglasses yeah right, a great application because you might want some sunglasses and he's transitioned to sunglasses. Going to the beach, still want to be able to message people, take some photos. It's got a good camera in it. I can still take video calls. All this stuff. Yeah, I mean, I can see this being a killer product.

Speaker 1:

And the main thing that I don't like about these even though I'm still going to try them because the hardware just looks so good and I want to experience it is that I don't like that it uses all Meta's AI, because I'm not deep into the Meta ecosystem. I don't really use Facebook and Instagram all that much. I don't use WhatsApp. If you use all those apps, this might be great, but also I feel like Meta's AI, in terms of getting answers to stuff and getting stuff done, is not as good as ChatGPT or Gemini and these other models, and getting stuff done is not as good as chat, gpt or Gemini, these other models. But what do you think I feel like at $799, up to, I'll put an up for a bracket.

Speaker 2:

I'll say $799, $999.

Speaker 1:

If it's somewhere between $799 and $999, this could be a product that would interest a lot of people if Samsung and Google bake all the Android Google services in there.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, no for sure. Yeah, because you know, not everyone uses meta.

Speaker 1:

I'm finding a lot of people are kind of like transitioning from having like Facebook and people are sometimes skeptical of Facebook, even more so than Google because they're like they had all those things where they you know they had some data concerns, they were selling your data to people and theoretically that's been handled, but you never really know. I mean, google of course, uses your data too, but at least as far as we know, they tell you what they do with it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean they do a lot of stuff with it.

Speaker 1:

You should read the fine print sometime, but they do tell you. They will give you your data to pretty much anybody who asks.

Speaker 2:

But Facebook wasn't telling you what they. Hey, do I have that? Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know You've got to ask. Just put it in writing and say, please, but they will give your data away to anybody. But Facebook was selling it and they weren't really telling you that in their fine print. So that's a little worse. No, no no it is, but yeah, I don't know I mean.

Speaker 2:

what do you think? I mean, this looks like a great device, I think.

Speaker 1:

Samsung and them could sell a lot of these devices.

Speaker 2:

I think so because, like I saw his before you revealed it, I think it was like the previous week. He was saying how you know AI and like having glasses would be the way of the future and that you'll be pretty dumb if you don't get one in the future. Who? Said that I think it was Mark Zuckerberg this guy is crazy man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know, yeah. Consumer based dumb. I know this guy is crazy man. Yeah, I know he's a consumer-based dumb I know Mark. Zuckerberg is just mad because he missed out on the smartphone hardware because they tried to make the Facebook phone 15 years ago and it flopped harder than anything in the history of hardware. I remember the Facebook phone.

Speaker 2:

What a disaster it's an absolute disaster, my God, I would say. One of my favorite movies is the Social Network.

Speaker 1:

It's a great movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But man, the Facebook phone. What a disaster.

Speaker 2:

Mark Zuckerberg would still be bitter that he couldn't make a smartphone work for Facebook, but he is saying it is the future having the glasses, and then I saw that he did reveal them today, so I think it's going to be really good, like yeah, it kind of made me think too, because I was, like you know, for like cheating and, like you know, schools and stuff like uh and academia, like having those glasses, like I just figured out how well that's off yeah, well, but then how would you be able to see?

Speaker 2:

you know, how would you be able to prove if they can see?

Speaker 1:

oh, well, you can, you can kind of tell if you have.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, if you have prescription lenses. I guess you have to check just one more thing, yeah, one more job.

Speaker 1:

They're going to add to your job description and pay you almost no money for it, Tori. I know Eventually once they give you about 20 more jobs, Tori will finally leave and come work at Sammy Huber full time He'll be like man, they're making me do like 50,000 jobs and only paying me very little money.

Speaker 2:

Jeff, here I am.

Speaker 1:

Tori loves teaching, but they're just going to keep adding jobs that have nothing to do with teaching and eventually he might not like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but yeah, no Do you feel like this is the way of the future. I mean, mark Zuckerberg and all these guys keep saying that the smart glasses are eventually going to be what replaces the smartphone. I don't think we're there in the next 15 years. No, we're there in the next 15 years, but it could be. It could be one of the devices in the long run, but there's a lot of advantages to the smartphone still that just make it like I mean it is.

Speaker 2:

It is the invention of the last you know how many years, and I think you really get down to ai. That could, um, you know, you know I picture, like you know, futuristic movies where, like, yeah, the glasses, you can like talk to it and it can do all these things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe to that part if you get the ai you know, down to a certain level maybe, but I still feel like that there's a certain I mean, I don't know, it's certainly possible, but I don't see it in the next 15 years, smartphones going out of the way for glasses just because the smartphone's a little more discreet, you can put it in your pocket, take it out when you want. It doesn't have to always be like. I think these companies overestimate how much people want ambient always on ever-present oh yeah ai and devices in their life.

Speaker 1:

One of the nice things about the smartphone is, even though a lot of us are addicted to them and we scroll through them all the time, if you do want to put it away, you at least can. If your primary device lives on your face or, even worse, like elon musk, is embedded in your brain, yeah, you can't just put it away I'm waiting for that south park, yeah, and so like I don't, I I don't know.

Speaker 1:

For that reason, I think it's going to be a tough fought battle yeah, but I do think now I do think this device category has a lot of potential, though, for the times when you don't necessarily want your smartphone, but you do want to have smart capabilities. Um, I don't know that this would. It's not going to replace smartphone for me, at least right now but. I do think it's a great addition I think so too.

Speaker 2:

I think it's a great uh accessory, you know I, you know um, I think maybe, like over time you know people, I mean but we're already seeing a lot of pushback of like hey, like there's a lot of tech right now that are just kind of like in our faces and the other thing a lot of people don't like about these, just like when you know, the funny thing is, everybody laughed at google when they came out with google glass, like 15 years ago everyone's like oh, you can't.

Speaker 1:

Do't do that because you can't just be wearing the tech on your face, because you can take a picture of someone and they won't know. Well, now no one seems to care about that, because with Metaglass it's like you can take a picture of someone and they won't know. Back then they were like oh Google, what are you guys doing? Now no one seems to care about that at all, but that's, no one knows if you're taking a photo of them. Right, with these glasses, I mean, you could make it so that you can take photos of whatever and no one will know.

Speaker 2:

At least with your phone, like if I'm up taking a photo of you or if I'm doing some scandalous photos of some ladies that I'm not supposed to be in public trying to get myself arrested for being a dirty pervert.

Speaker 1:

they can arrest me, but with the glasses not so easy, right? So not that I do that, I'm just saying as an example that would be a problem that could potentially come up. So I mean, I don't know, I don't see it replacing the phone the next 15 years, but it definitely is the form factor that has the most potential of all the different devices they've tried to say will replace the phone. Of all the different devices they've tried to say will replace the phone, of all the devices that could, I would say it's one of the most likely candidates. If but the ai needs to go like a thousand x, the controls have to go. I mean, basically it needs to be so that everything can be done with voice yeah, yeah, that's what I like in the movies.

Speaker 2:

Is that like you've got to be, like you got to be like glasses bring up my to be like glasses.

Speaker 1:

Bring up my X, feed glasses, scroll glasses, blah, blah, blah. Cause I don't want to be doing a bunch of like this, waving my hands out in public, like.

Speaker 2:

I'm conducting a symphony. We're going to be space odyssey. Yeah, sorry, jeff, I can't do that yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like I don't want to be conducting a symphony while I'm using my glasses. That's why I really would prefer to.

Speaker 2:

You know, if it's all voice, then maybe, but I think that'll take a while. Yeah, that's what I think. So too. But yeah, I think for the next 15 and 20 years, definitely for sure, I think we're still going to be on cell, cell phone or, um, just cell phones in general, but I mean and and we're still trying to push the innovation of cell phones now that we're in the folding area. We have the tri-fold. I don't think smartphones are done yet.

Speaker 1:

People think that smartphones have. I think smartphones had. It was exponential growth. It plateaued for a while but I think we'll have another exponential growth phase for phones because there's still a lot of foldables, rollables. There's still the ability to bring holographic screens at some point, some really crazy stuff that Samsung has worked on and other companies. I don't think we're done seeing interesting innovations in phones. There's still a lot of things you can do with the phone form factor.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, one of the craziest, most important inventions, definitely in our lifetime, the tri-fold is apparently coming to the US. We finally have this confirmed, and by the most unlikely of sources, our friends at cnn. We were reading cnn. Well, obnov was today our writer. I don't know why he was reading cnn. I try to stay away from all the news this week. It's just gotten crazy here in this country with the political discourse.

Speaker 1:

But he was reading the article and I guess someone at the cnn tech you know they don't really usually scoop us, usually we're scooping them on samsung stuff, we're putting cnn to shame. But uh, they apparently talked to someone at samsung, got an insider news. I guess we trust cnn that um that said they're kind of reputable maybe?

Speaker 1:

um, they said that they talked to someone at samsung who confirmed that it will be coming to the us by the end of 2025. We weren't sure about that. It's great news for me. Me, because it means I won't have to pay $5,000 to get it through tariff. It'll just cost me $3,000 or $2,500, whatever, the actual price is $2,500 plus tax, you know, I think it might be $2,500. $2,500 plus tax, yeah, so right about $2,700 after the tax.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think if they did a full three, like I mean, I still, I still save like $2,300 or how to report it.

Speaker 1:

So, hey, you know, take that, buy myself something nice with it. Who knows, Get myself a. You know, get Nicole an extra Christmas present. You know, in case you listen to the podcast, you know, get her one of those nice bags handbags she's been looking at because we save about. Today, because someone was asking me about this it was larry and a couple other people asked about this, so we'll close with this is a good question to discuss.

Speaker 1:

Last week I talked about how apple put the iphone 17 series uh above samsung in some ways because they put the anti-glare on all the displays yeah but larry and a couple other people were digging into this and I saw it as well the anti-glare on the iphone 17 series is not baked into the actual glass, it's just a coating.

Speaker 1:

So it's not really part of the glass manufacturing process like it is with Samsung's partnership that they have with Corning to create the anti-glare display on our S25 Ultra, the anti-glare display on our S25 Ultra. So I feel like iPhone might be much worse than the Samsung one, because, just like the oleophobic coating on your display and Samsung, by the way, you really need to work on that because the fingerprints are out of control. Every year on my phone, these fingerprints the oleophobic coating really goes away, but the anti-glare coating could eventually erode if you keep your iPhone for a long period of time, because the oleophobic coating really goes away, but the anti-glare coating could eventually erode if you keep your iPhone for a long period of time, because the oleophobic coating even on iPhones it gets worse over time. It's just natural, like the coating is a coating and if you have oils from your fingers and stuff over years, you keep your phone for a long time, like a lot of people do. It's not going to be great, so that could potentially be bad, don't you think, tor? No?

Speaker 1:

yeah, that anti-glare coating in that one spot where you're touching a lot is gone.

Speaker 2:

It's going to look a little strange. It will look a little strange and also I'm imagining it's and I'm paying a lot of money. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I'm imagining it might not also be as strong. So obviously not as strong as the S25 Ultra, because the coating you're not going to be able to get as much anti-glare as you do if you apply that treatment to the actual glass like they're doing with Corning. So I may have to retract the statement that I made last week, which is that Apple really won up Samsung, because I don't know, Tomorrow obviously I'm going to get the iPhone 17s in hand which is kind of why I wanted to talk about this, because talk about this a little bit at the end of the show.

Speaker 1:

I'll have all the iPhone 17s tomorrow. I'll make some content on them on my personal channel and I'm going to make a video comparing them because I think a lot of people are interested in this. Iphone 17 versus S25 Ultra anti-glare, which one is less reflective, and so I don't really know how you measure reflectivity. I'll have to look into that. I don't really know. Anybody know how you. I mean I'll do like an anecdotal test with my lights, but I don't know if there's like a number that measures reflectivity.

Speaker 1:

I'm sure there is. If you're like an optics, if you're like an optics phd, let me know how I can easily measure reflectivity of the glass. But I mean over time, of course, then we'll have to see, though, how does that hold up, the iphone coating versus the one that's, you know that built-in anti-glare but? But I feel like Samsung might still have the advantage there.

Speaker 2:

It sounds so. It sounds like they do, yeah, especially if it's going to erode. I mean, like you're just paying so much money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean we don't know that it'll erode, but I mean it's certainly more feasible that it could right.

Speaker 2:

And that would be no bueno, no bueno En.

Speaker 1:

Estadia, as they say. That's my Spanish, right there.

Speaker 2:

My Espanol, just Spanish. For the podcast, I'm working on some Spanish.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so tomorrow I'll have the iPhones. I mean it's iPhone day tomorrow, so if you guys want to see some iPhone stuff, check out my personal channel. The comparison video with the glare I don't know if I'll put that on my personal channel or Sammy Guru, because it's still Sammy Song related. I might put that on Sammy Guru so people can see it, especially if it's a win for Samsung.

Speaker 2:

I can be like champions.

Speaker 1:

We are the champions, my friends. Oh, and I do want to say one more thing. I just saw this news story that we covered too. I just want to say one more thing. I just saw this news story that we covered too. I just want to say samsung, what the hell are you guys doing?

Speaker 2:

they're putting advertisements on people's fridges and I'm not a fan of that because you know they have smart fridges.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. And so now they've decided that, like when you go to get your milk or like you go in there and check like, because the fridge will tell you what you have in the in the. That's one of the smart fridge features. They'll be like hey, you got 16 ounces of milk left. By the way, did you know that you can buy this really cool Galaxy S25 Ultra?

Speaker 2:

Go ahead and upgrade your phone.

Speaker 1:

We see that you're still on the S23 Ultra. You can get an S25 Ultra with up to $800 in trading credit right now, and you're like damn man, I was trying to figure out how much milk I have.

Speaker 2:

Don't worry, there's more. You can also get this on Galaxy Watch Ultra.

Speaker 1:

And they're like oh, you like milk. Well, you know what? This high-resolution imagery of milk pouring from a glass looks great on the new Galaxy XR headset.

Speaker 2:

Only $1,999.99.

Speaker 1:

We just launched it. Check it out Before you go to the store and buy some more milk. Buy this $2,000 headset. I'm like, come on man, I mean, I want one of these eventually. We don't have a smart fridge yet, but I plan to buy one of the Samsung ones because they actually are nice and I do like the feature. Like, if I'm at the store, I have the app like that. That's cool that it weighs your food and tells you what you have left. People don't want ads on their fridge. Samsung no, they don't. You guys got to chill.

Speaker 1:

Samsung posted a statement, too, to Android Authority. We also reached out to them about it. They said Samsung is committed to innovation. This is a BS statement of all time, so let's treat it for fun. It's committed to innovation, enhancing everyday value for our home appliance customers. Yeah, everyday value like putting ads on there. As part of our ongoing efforts to strengthen that value, we're conducting a pilot program to offer promotions and curated advertisements on certain Family Hub refrigerator models in the US market. This is like man, these people who have marketing degrees. I feel bad for them having to write stuff like that. It's like oh, you guys don't like it in the media that we put ads on the fridge. Well, here's the middle finger Go, go, bleep yourselves. We're going to do anything.

Speaker 2:

We're doing anyway, guess what.

Speaker 1:

Guess what we call these ads? We call them great value.

Speaker 2:

We're delivering innovation and great value with advertisements in your kitchen Now.

Speaker 1:

Now you don't just get advertisements on your phone, your TV, your tablet, we've also got them on your fridge. Hope you guys love it. We'll be rolling them out. We'll be rolling them out to your Samsung smart washer and dryer next year too.

Speaker 2:

The advertisements will actually read aloud and it'll display on the little. Yeah, and it's like right before you start the wash, you have to it just plays. They'll be like then it starts.

Speaker 1:

We noticed that you're out of laundry detergent. Would you like to buy some laundry detergent from gain? Maybe switch your laundry detergent to game. We have a discount for $3 off. We can send it directly to your phone. Now you can order from target. Oh yeah, I shouldn't be giving them any ideas, nevermind, we'll delete. I do have a Samsung washer and dryer smart.

Speaker 2:

AI one, so I don't want that. Yeah, I will play before you can open it. Don't give them any more ideas.

Speaker 1:

We're going to cut this part out because you know the people from Samsung listen to this and they'll be like that's a great idea. We could just have them lock the door before you know they have to listen to the ad. Yeah, I know, and they send all those promotion coupons directly to their smartphone because it's connected and smart things. Yeah, we'll cut all this out, no problem. Yeah, but in the meanwhile, Tori, anything else you want to add before we leave? No, just that. No-transcript.