SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
Hello Fellow Kids! Samsung's Back in With The Youth + S26 Ultra Leaks Galore
Samsung's Galaxy S26 Ultra design leaks reveal a major shift toward fully rounded edges, signaling a complete departure from its Note heritage and raising questions about the future of the S-Pen. The fall tech season is heating up with Apple announcing their iPhone event for September 9th while Samsung prepares several new product launches.
• S26 Ultra leaks show completely rounded design similar to iPhone, moving away from Note's squared edges
• Qi2 magnetic charging coming to S26 Ultra but may sacrifice reverse wireless charging
• Apple's "jaw dropping" iPhone event scheduled for September 9th with reverse wireless charging rumored
• Samsung XR headset launching next month for $1,800-2,000, significantly undercutting Apple Vision Pro
• Tab S11 and S25 FE launching soon despite questions about their market positioning
• Google implementing verification requirements for all Android developers, even for sideloaded apps
• Samsung seeing significant growth among younger users, especially in South Korea where preference increased 10%
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Welcome back everybody. This is episode number 41 of the Sammy Guru podcast. My name is Jeff Springer. With me, as always, my co-host, Torrey Torrey, say hi. Hey how's it going? And, yeah, this week we got quite a lot of there was a lot of Samsung news this week. Torrey, yeah, there was. Are you ready for the Samsung news?
Speaker 2:I am ready and I think our listeners are ready, and not only that a certain fruit company announced their fall phone event today why, why is a fruit company selling a phone?
Speaker 1:we have no idea, but we might talk a little bit about that today. Um, and then last week we previewed the pixel event and the day after we previewed it, google, you know, they unveiled it, and so this week we can kind of talk a little bit about what happened at the Pixel event. It was quite interesting. I know Tori was working, but I can talk a little bit about it and tell them a little bit about it. There were some interesting things that also relates to Samsung. But before we do that, tori, how's your week going so far?
Speaker 2:So far going good. What is today, tuesday, I?
Speaker 1:have no idea what day it is.
Speaker 2:I literally just wake up. I go to work If my alarm goes off.
Speaker 1:I'm just here, so I won't get fired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, essentially yeah. I think it's going pretty well. It's definitely getting to that fourth week flow.
Speaker 1:Like it's time to get actually serious. Yeah, oh, I remember why I don't like this. Yes, now I remember why I hate, school. Yeah, yeah, essentially the beginning is the honeymoon period, oh, yeah, yeah, like I get to pick out some new clothes, I get to hang out with my friends. We do some activities. We're not doing too much real work, yeah, just perfect, just vibing yeah and then.
Speaker 2:Now it's like crap crap he actually wants stuff. Mr Martin killed the vibes guys, I know. Mr Torrey Martin he's a vibe killer. I am unfortunately Like.
Speaker 1:Kendrick Lamar. He said, torrey, don't kill my vibes.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm always like I know it's a hard sell, guys, but I'm going to make it fun. At least I'm going to try. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, this week is good. We have our first football game this Friday, so we're doing our.
Speaker 1:Feels like it's fall already, even though it's still it's not super hot today actually because it rained yesterday Like crazy dust storm. Yeah, on my way home my car got completely covered. It was like mud encrusted when I got home so I just did this morning.
Speaker 2:I took it to the car wash yeah, before I came here, it's like probably went to the car it's crazy.
Speaker 1:It's like I can't leave it. I was gonna leave it for a day. I was like I can't look at it.
Speaker 2:It's just so bad, yeah, so there's several pockets around phoenix that lost power.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah we lost power one of the first few nights we were in the new house. It went out for a few hours but then came back Last night.
Speaker 1:thankfully we didn't lose any power, but I'm just getting used to living in this central midtown, like north central midtown area, after living up in the Peoria Glendale area for so long. So finally, kind of getting used to it, we've got to see a movie or something this weekend in the Peoria Glendale area for so long. So finally, kind of getting used to it, we got to see a movie or something. Yeah, we do this weekend.
Speaker 2:Yes, hopefully we can try to arrange that Need to find a new theater. I guess it's got to be Scottsdale, you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so we're going to have to go over there and you know schmooze with the people over there who are, you know, living it up in Scottsdale.
Speaker 2:Hey, I mean, it's really, you've been there to that Harkins have you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's nice, yeah, it's a nice.
Speaker 2:Harkins, yeah, it's called the. It's called the Camel View, camel View. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can you know, relax in your very expensive automobile shopping at Louis Vuitton and then see a movie, yeah at the fashion square you can you can do all that. We won't be doing any of that we're just gonna see a movie, but um, anyway yeah, overall, I mean it's going pretty good.
Speaker 1:We got a lot of stuff you know tech world going on, because it's the fall, and the fall is like when all the events aside from Samsung really Samsung kind of gets all their stuff out of the way before the big stuff happens in the fall.
Speaker 1:Because the fall like there's tons of events. Typically Google, microsoft and Apple all do stuff in the fall right before like the holiday shopping season, so their new products are there. But Samsung, typically, you know they do something a little different. They actually release their big phone right after the holidays.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which is kind of weird. It's like people spend all their money in the holidays and Samsung's like here, buy an S26 Ultra.
Speaker 2:And yet people still do.
Speaker 1:People still do it and droves, they're like well, my tax refund's coming next week, so I'll just use that to buy the S26 Ultra, no problem, yeah, no problem. Anyway, segueing into our weekly news, there's a lot of stuff to talk about, but first let's talk about the s26 ultra stuff, because we actually got three pieces of information this week, three big pieces. The puzzle is starting to slowly come together I mean, this is the time where like this is.
Speaker 1:We've already, since we've been back, we've already seen lots of s26 ultra stuff come out and this is the time you know, like four and a half months before the launch is like when we start seeing a steady trickle of information, like we're going to start seeing all the details of the processor next month because the Qualcomm Summit is coming. So Qualcomm will unveil the processor, we'll know that, we'll start finding out some more information about the colors and then, probably in like October, we'll probably see like official or renders CAD renders that are very close to what you'll be able to buy in January. But this week, three things. I'll start with the first piece of news and I'll hit you with them, tori, and you can give me some thoughts about them. So you know how. You know the S Ultra originally was like the metamorphosis of the Note line, right and so like the metamorphosis of the note line, yeah, right and so like the s22 ultra which you just came from.
Speaker 2:You came from the s22 ultra, s25 ultra.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you really enjoyed that device obviously. Um, it was basically a note, except in its name, I mean, because it was really the first s ultra where they they got rid of the note line and they just put the S pen. They said let's just slap it in the ultra.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's what made me want to get it, and the and the feel of the S 22 felt like the note Cause that's what I have before, right, and that's where I'm going.
Speaker 1:That's where I'm going with this. Yeah, just just hold on a second. All right, I'm holding so patiently. You know that one basically looked like a note. It had squared off edges at the top and stuff. Yeah, it was a nice, you know nice note looking feel. And then slowly from the s23, s24, s25, they slowly took that squared off thing at the top and they made it less square and more round.
Speaker 1:Well, it's leaked out now that apparently the s26 ultra is going to be basically fully rounded, more like an iphone 16 pro or 17 pro max early on.
Speaker 2:I think you did, I did. I think you did the earlier ones. I'm like, when you first showed me the design for the s25, I'm like, so are we starting to look like iPhones now? Because I'm looking at my S22, and that to me looks like a Samsung phone. They've come full circle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26. It took five generations but they finally went from like they slowly tapered off the note-lookingness of the S Ultra, and I don't know how I feel about it. I'm a little disappointed Because I feel like I actually really like it. I thought the S24 Ultra was the sweet spot. I think this is even a little too round for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, to me it looks like an iPhone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's definitely still got some squaredness up here, yeah, so supposedly, supposedly, they're going to round these corners out fully so that it basically looks like my iPhone 16 Pro Max. I don't necessarily like that. A lot of people are not happy about it. I've seen the post on Twitter and Reddit and everywhere. Yeah, I don't know, we're disappointed. Are you disappointed, tor? I'm a little disappointed about it I am.
Speaker 2:I mean not to say that they're forgetting about their slab user base, but I said this many times before. What gravitated me towards Samsung was really just that it was always so innovative and I know we have the foldables now. But it seems like they're focusing their innovation on the foldables and they're kind of just getting into that natural flow of all right, slab users. Here's your Kind of like what Apple does, like all right, I'm just going to kind of keep giving you.
Speaker 1:It seems like this is the year, unfortunately, where they're just like well, all the note lineage is gone. Yeah, I feel like, unfortunately even though we haven't seen a leak yet that confirms it, and no big leakers, or we don't have any sources that have confirmed this, but it just leads, lends more credence to the fact that this is the year where the S pen gets completely axed, because you got rid of the squared sides entirely and that was the hallmark of the note.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So if you're doing that, then that's the perfect time to just say well, sorry, the S pen's gone too. This is no longer really a note.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then it's just like a regular, I think it's just silly though.
Speaker 1:I mean, I would be okay with it, honestly, if they brought the note line back. If they were like, oh, but we're bringing back the note, and here's the galaxy note 26 ultra, and they're like, but it has an s pen, it's got squared size. Then I'd be like, well, that's fine, because they don't care. I mean, I don't, I don't really even understand. Honestly, I don't even know why they got rid of the note line.
Speaker 1:To be honest, yeah, I like the note line it was distinct enough from the s ultra, yes, but there was no need to get rid of the note line. I mean, there were people who liked the s pen, who liked the squared sides, and they were willing to pay extra because the note was more than the it would. The note ultra was more than the s ultra. They were willing to pay the S Ultra, they were willing to pay more, and it's not like they had to do a third event. They could still release the Note. If they want to do all the slab phones together, why don't you do the S26 Pro, s26 Edge, s26 Ultra, the Note 26 and the Note?
Speaker 2:26 Ultra all together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then you make everyone happy because there are a lot of people who like the squared off sides. I mean there's a pretty vocal contingent of fans and of course there's an even larger contingent of fans who are going to be super pissed if the S Pen is completely axed. I mean, I'm not going to say that's guaranteed to happen. I think it's guaranteed to happen one of the next two years. I can't say it's going to be this year. It's either this year, 2026 or 2027, the S-Pen is going to go away until they can find that digitizer free tech and make it work. Like I said, I think once they find the digitizer free tech, maybe in like four years they'll bring the S-Pen back and everyone will be like cheering and that'll be great, yeah, but you may have no S-Pen for a few years.
Speaker 1:Anyway, I'm pretty upset about the completely rounded corners, because it does look more and more than ever like an iPhone. The only real way to distinguish it from an iPhone from the back is the camera module. The camera module is still uniquely Samsung, but otherwise, like all of the other elements of it, look very iPhone-ish if you completely round out the edges and it takes away the note lineage. Uh, let me hit you with the next one. So the next one is this one I'm actually okay with. So the s26 ultra is supposed to get a camera upgrade, which we talked about before, and that probably means I don't know if you ever saw the S21 Ultra and the S20 Ultra.
Speaker 1:They both had pretty large camera bumps and this year Apple is also rumored to be adding a large camera hump to the iPhone 17 Pro Max because they're upgrading the primary camera, the telephoto, and that's a necessity. Like if you have a really good lens in there, if you upgrade the lens, you need more camera housing for more stuff, right? Yeah, obviously, you can't cram a better lens into the same small space, so there's nothing. You know this doesn't bother me, but it could be the case that the S26 Ultra has a larger camera hump on the back, in addition to being rounded. Does it bother you, I mean, if you slap a case on it, the back, in addition to being rounded or does it bother you? I mean, if you slap a case on it, you're not going to notice it anyway?
Speaker 1:yeah, so that's why I don't really have a problem with it yeah.
Speaker 2:So, like I know, I, I think most people are just gonna slap a case on it. And it's gonna, you know, because and we talked about it too before like if you, you know, press down on your phone, like you know, wobbles a little bit on the side, that does have the cameras, but if you put a case on it it doesn't anymore.
Speaker 1:So most people aren't going to complain about that. Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:I think that'd be fine and I think people want every year people want better cameras.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You're paying a lot of money.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You want a good camera At the end of the day.
Speaker 1:I mean, honestly, we'll talk about the iPhones in a little bit because we'll talk about Apple's announcement this morning, but I think that iPhone renders look ugly as all hell. They look worse. Apple really made the iPhones look bad, in my opinion, but at the end of the day I guess Apple is realizing maybe Samsung is thinking this too People don't really care too much about what it looks like without a case, because 95% of people slap cases Like how many people? I mean honestly, I don't. I don't really ride public transit anymore, but I used to when I was, you know, at ASU in my PhD program. I ride the light rail all the time and it was a while ago, but I never hardly saw anybody. And when I'm out, like at restaurants or we're at the movies or whatever, I very rarely see someone without a case on their phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Very rare, rarely see someone without a case on their phone. Yeah, very, I mean, it's anecdotal. I think you're probably the only one I know. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's anecdotal, right, but I would say maybe like one out of every 50 people I see is going caseless. I think that's pretty fair. I think that's pretty fair to say no, very few people like maybe 5% of people do it Honestly. When I'm out in the office, I use it without a case. I only use the Fold without a case just because I can't bear the cases. Most of them are just so bad for the Fold You've got to put that adhesive stuff on there.
Speaker 1:It makes it thicker, it makes it harder to unfold. It's like, well, if I'm going to use the case, I might as well just not use the Fold because it ruins the whole experience. So it's the difference between do I even want to use the phone and I really like the Fold this year. So I do want to use it, so I just have to take the risk. I bought Samsung Care Plus for the Fold 7 just because you know. I mean I'm doing okay, but I don't want to be. I mean this is a $2,300 phone, it's the one terabyte model, If it drops.
Speaker 1:I don't want to spend $2,300 to replace it, so I got.
Speaker 1:Samsung Care Plus for like $200 or whatever. So if I do drop it because it's got lost, you know, and if it gets stolen then it gets replaced. That's kind of my solution to not using the case on the foldable. But I don't think the camera bump is a big deal because, like I said, most people are going to put the case on it. They're not going to be mad about that. People will be more psyched that the camera is getting upgraded. They won't focus too much on the bump as long as it's not as ugly as the iphone.
Speaker 1:And from what the renders I've seen, it doesn't look as ugly as the iphone. I mean, if I was an apple fan I would be a little concerned about how ugly the iphone is. It doesn't look good at all. Um. And then the last one, which is also not great news um. So you know how, with the s25 ultra we had the g2 charging but you had to put a case on so you don't really have it in the phone. We talked a lot about that, like in our live stream when we did the launch day stuff. Like everyone was upset because they're like oh, it's not really g2, because you got to buy a specific case.
Speaker 1:Otherwise the g2 accessories don't work yeah whereas with the iphone the magnets are in there and you slap it on. And google also on their Pixel event last week, as we did talk about on the preview, they also did that. It has the G2 charging. Hey, calm down, gemini, because I said the G word. Gemini's over here getting crazy, getting out of line over here to write you up.
Speaker 2:Getting out of line in this office. Yeah, you got to write him up. Yeah, that's right, doc. Yeah, I'm getting on a line in this office. Yeah, you got to run them up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right, doc, your pay for that. Trying to interrupt my podcast. That adds editing hours to the podcast it does. I have to, doc, some pay to pay for those edits. But yeah, google added magnets in the Pixel, so they also have magnets built in. So that puts the pressure on Samsung to do it. So the leak that we saw yesterday that the guys wrote up is saying that samsung is going to put g2 magnets in the device, but unfortunately they weren't able to find a way to do it while also preserving reverse wireless charging.
Speaker 1:So reverse wireless charging is getting the axe so that you can have g2, wireless charging and accessory compatibility built into the phone. So you're going to get G2, but you won't be able to charge up your earbuds or your watch on the back of your phone. What?
Speaker 2:do you think about that, tori? So I think and I'm going to speak for everyone I think everyone is going to probably use the Chi to more, as very rarely do. I see a lot of people who are using, like the wireless charging on the back of the phone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so you know, I think more people are probably going to get more bang for their buck using the Qi 2 wireless charging. Is it a really cool feature that I think Samsung has? Yes, but given where most people are, I think the move would be to get that cheat sheet.
Speaker 1:That's a surprisingly measured take, Tor. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:But you know what people are going to do on the internet.
Speaker 1:People don't like measured takes.
Speaker 2:People don't like measured takes on the internet. They're going to be like. I've had it on my Galaxy for the last. I need to be triggered. I've had it for the last 10 years. How dare they?
Speaker 1:And I use it every day 10 times a day and I'm like but how are your buds and watch dying 10 times a day?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know right, If you charge them once, don't they?
Speaker 1:last. No, I use it all the time. I have five pairs of buds. I charge all of them up once each time I'm like, but then your phone will be dead because you're using all the power from the phone to charge your. It doesn't make any sense. They're like but I'm just angry.
Speaker 2:I'm just angry, I know.
Speaker 1:But okay, yeah, I totally agree with you. By the way, I don't think this is that big of a deal. People are going to make a big deal about it, but Qi 2 is infinitely more useful, because not only does Qi 2 bring you faster wireless charging, it also brings you all those magnetic accessory attachments like the power banks, the wallets, all that stuff. But here's the really bad news, and we can kind of transition into the iPhone launch a little bit with this, now that we've talked about this and give some closing thoughts on the S26, because this is related to Apple. Unfortunately, apple has not had reverse wireless charging for years. They've never had it.
Speaker 1:So we've always had that and be like oh, you don't have it, you apple fans yeah well, now that samsung is rumored to get rid of it so they can have g2, magsafe, like compatibility, apple's apparently apparently found a way and in two weeks they're going to announce that you can get magsafe and reverse wireless charging on the iphone 17 pro and pro max so that's not going to be a good look samsung has not found a way to do this with g2, but apple found a proprietary way with magsafe apparently, to have magsafe attachments, g2 charging and reverse wireless charge.
Speaker 1:So that's not a great look it's. It's in a vacuum. It's not a big deal because, like you said, the honest truth is, even though people are going to get online and complain about this for for no reason, yeah and they probably have never used reverse wireless charging and to be honest, I'm one of the biggest samsung power users probably in the world, because I mean I just for a living.
Speaker 1:All I do do is cover Samsung devices. I've used Reverse Wireless charging like three times in my life. Yeah, I think I've only ever used it like once or twice, I mean like one time when I was out and I was at the gym and my battery on my watch was going to die after I worked out because I used some health tracking features and I still wanted it to take you know, on the drive home I used it to charge up charge up my buds one time, as it's actually at the gym.
Speaker 1:So I guess if you go to the gym a lot, maybe you use it. Sometimes I get to the gym and find out my buds were not fully charged or they weren't charged enough and I try to charge it up while I'm like getting ready or whatever, putting on my gym clothes, but otherwise I never really use it that much and it doesn't charge that fast. No, so it really has to be a situation where you don't need a lot of charge. Like you're going to do a 30 minute run and maybe you can charge your buds up 10 while you're getting ready and that's enough. Like you're charging your entire buds battery while you're waiting, because otherwise you'll be spending like an hour and a half waiting to get ready for your workout. So you're not going to do that. But yeah, I mean overall the news here about the S26, not necessarily all positive news, but I think the Chi-2 magnets are actually good.
Speaker 1:And again keep this in context. Yes, it's getting rounder and unfortunately we're going to lose maybe reverse wires charging and maybe a bigger camera bump. But keep in mind the positives. We're getting 65 watt charging or 60 watt charging, faster wire charging this year. We're going to get a much faster processor from qualcomm. We're going to get a main primary camera upgrade. We're getting that ai flex magic pixel technology. We talked about that. Did we talk about that last week?
Speaker 2:I don't believe. I don't think we did?
Speaker 1:I made a video about this, let me tell I guess. I guess that's one other thing than we yeah, didn't talk about last week, I can tell you one more s26 ultra thing yeah so this is really cool. The flex magic pixel technology will basically allow ai to basically make your screen black when someone else is looking at it from the side, like a privacy screen.
Speaker 2:I think we did talk about it last week. Yeah, I think we did.
Speaker 1:It's been a long week. Sometimes you forget. But that's a really cool feature. That's a big selling point. Basically, you've got a privacy screen protector built in. You don't have to apply any screen protector. Your screen just does it automatically If someone's trying to get over your shoulder. They're like wait what, why is? It turning? Why is the pixels turning black? You know they'll never be able to see, because it just it adapts to the viewing angle they'll never see it coming that's right.
Speaker 1:So I mean there's a lot of really cool features here that we're going to get um samsung's, you know, doing some pretty nice upgrades, plus one ui 8.5 is supposed to have some pretty big uh upgrades as well. I mean, I do think again if the ax s pen, that's going to overshadow a lot of the positives because people are going to be super mad about that that's not going to be. I will be in that camp, yeah that's not going to be a small thing like losing reverse wireless charging or rounder corners.
Speaker 2:I mean, those are small things in context, but the S-Pen being gone is certainly going to get a much louder cry from people I think you know, because I have to imagine, and again, like I wasn't a part of the big community of seeing everyone you know get on to the Note, but like the Note was really a big like once they stopped making the One Series phones I was looking for another phone. I was like man, like this Note just looks so cool, like they had the commercials for them. It was just such a cool looking phone and so I have to imagine other other people felt that way and you know we were kind of like corralled into okay, well, now you have to get the, you know, the galaxy ultras if you still want that note experience. And then all right, now we're just going to phase out.
Speaker 1:They're like you can buy a tablet to use with your phone if you want the s pen experience, we can sell you a 1500 tab s11 phone. If you want the S Pen experience, we can sell you a $1,500 Tab S11 Ultra if you want.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And don't forget to buy the $300 keyboard as well. And you're like wait, that costs way more than my laptop. And they're like well, it has the S Pen. Yeah, and that's what you want right, and now your phone doesn't have it, so you better buy it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you better buy it.
Speaker 1:Purch purchase it sign up for samsung financing. Yeah, it's only 40 a month for 96 months. I'm just kidding. It's now they have interest fee financing. But anyway, transitioning to the iphone launch, apple announced today officially they sent out media invites. They didn't send me one. That's very rude, but yeah they sent it out to the general tech media that cover apple.
Speaker 1:Not, that's not us, but they sent it out saying that they are inviting people to join them for a special event at apple park on september 9th. It says jaw jaw. I wanted to say jaw dropping, yeah jaw dropping.
Speaker 1:Uh, experience is what the invite says, I think, or something like that. Um, and it's the iphone event, obviously, and so we're two weeks away and apple will be doing their thing two weeks from before the podcast. Well, I've seen the iphone event, so we'll be able to talk a lot about it in two weeks and kind of compare just what they did. I mean, we know it's coming. It's your iphone 17, 17 air, which is the competitor to the s25 edge, which is supposedly going to have an even smaller battery than the S25 Edge.
Speaker 2:I don't know how that's going to go.
Speaker 1:I know Apple is good at optimizing battery life because they make their own processors, yeah, but I don't know, man, that battery is small. I don't know how high of hopes I have for that one, but we'll see. I'll definitely get one. To make a video comparison to the Edge, yeah have for that one, but we'll see.
Speaker 2:I'll definitely get one. To make a video comparison to the edge? Yeah, I actually would like to. To see that in a comparison?
Speaker 1:yeah, that'll be a fun comparison video and it's actually kind of nice because this year there's actually a different iphone to get and usually I get the pro and the pro max. I don't know if I'll buy three iphones.
Speaker 1:It's a lot of iphones I don't need all those iphones I'll probably buy the pro, the 17 pro max and the Air. I don't think I'll get the regular Pro because I end up not using One year. I used the regular Pro because I was like I like a smaller phone. I use my B-roll camera but I always end up not using one of them, so one of them sits in a drawer because I don't do enough with an iPhone to have all of them running around.
Speaker 1:But, I'll definitely do the Air. The special color of the Pro this year is the orange air. Um, the special color of the pro this year is the orange. It's like a sherbert orange color. Don't think it can be a mistake for rose gold, like I said, which is good yeah, I'll probably buy that one, because the other ones are all the standard apple colors.
Speaker 1:It's like silver, space gray and like a light blue. I think I'll probably get the air in the light blue color, yeah, and so I don't know. We'll see what else apple has up their sleeve. I mean, apple really has to feel kind of bad. And on the software front, because last year the iphone 16 event, they announced apple intelligence, their ai solution, compete with galaxy I, and they still haven't fully released the entire, all the features they promised last year. All these people bought the iphone 16 pro and they're haven't fully released the entire, all the features they promised last year. All these people bought the iphone 16 pro and they're like, oh, you can get the brand new siri with contextual awareness and all these cool ai features, and this still doesn't exist that's a bad look.
Speaker 1:I mean, people want to talk about how apple is so much better at software than samsung. Well, not anymore. They're not. I don't know if you've been paying attention, but I mean, yeah, one UI 7 took a while to ship, but Samsung didn't tell you something was coming and then not ship it for over a year. Yeah right.
Speaker 1:They never told you a specific date for One UI 7 for a while. And then, when they did say a specific date, they rolled it out within two months. They didn't take 12 months and, by all accounts, apple is not going to fully roll out the new Siri anytime soon.
Speaker 1:So they're still working on it. Yeah, apple is just way behind when it comes to AI. I mean, that's not to say that eventually they might figure that out and you know it might be really good because Apple is obviously very good at what they do, but you know they are behind Google and Samsung in my opinion. You know what I mean. Does your girlfriend even know of any of the AI features on her iPhone?
Speaker 2:No, I think she just uses it as just a regular phone. Yeah and FaceTime.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course right, the iMessage is a FaceTime.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and honestly, I think most of the average users that's how they just use it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know I don't need to really go into the nicks and cranny, Like we're not looking for the AI today.
Speaker 1:No, no AI for us. No, no AI. So I mean, but not that it fully has any AI anyway, because they didn't ship it.
Speaker 2:But you know.
Speaker 1:I was just wondering if she was aware of any of the features, because they did add some, but I think a lot of iPhone users don't really know. But it's also because Apple doesn't publicize them because they're so far behind. Yeah, like if you look at, like if you take the iPhone I did a video on it If you take the iPhone in the Galaxy and you take a photo and you try to erase an object using Object Eraser in the gallery, like if I put, like a pen in my hand and I use galaxy object eraser, it'll perfectly erase it and you won't even be able to tell there was you, wouldn't?
Speaker 1:you won't even be able to tell there was anything in my hand oh really yeah, but if you take the iphone and you do the object eraser, it'll look like someone took like a torch and burned my hand, because it leaves like black marks and gray marks all over where the pencil was. So apple is like really behind when it comes to ai for everything image, image editing, like generative image editing and all that stuff I mean that sounds very jaw-dropping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's kind of it's yeah, it went viral.
Speaker 1:A bunch of youtubers not just me made content over this, like, I think, when last year, when the iphone first got the like you know, object erasers tool, uh, and it's really surprising how far samsung is ahead with galaxy. I so, yeah, and that's great for us because we love samsung. Yeah, we do. This is a samsung podcast and, uh, samsung winning is a huge win for us and we'll take it. Why not? Why not 100, 100? 100%, 100%.
Speaker 2:Full throttle All day, every day.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's the iPhone launch. I'm not going to spend forever talking about it. I'm sure in a couple weeks we'll spend more time because we'll see the physical devices. We'll see if Apple's bringing anything really interesting to the table. I mean the reverse wireless charging yeah, but they didn't invent it. I mean Samsung's had it for years and supposedly they're going to have a new telephoto camera Finally. Samsung's had a longer telephoto on their phones for years as well.
Speaker 1:So it's like it's always like whenever Apple does an event, it's like I've had that for a long time. I just can't get that excited about it. I mean, the only thing ever that they ever really get me excited about is like the colors, and usually the phones at least look good, but this year I think they made the phones look pretty ugly, so I don't even know if they have that going for them anymore. We'll see a couple of other device things that we've been tracking. Um, you know we've been talking a lot about the Galaxy XR headset. We finally kind of have a release date and price for that. I think I told you that I had an idea of where it would be, so apparently it's releasing next month.
Speaker 1:Globally it's around $1,800 to $2,000 US, which is $1,500 to $1, 1700 less than Apple's solution, but still about a thousand to 1200 more than the meta X, a VR or whatever that that they have.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I don't know, that's a tough sell.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm going to get one Cause. Even the metas barely sell.
Speaker 1:Yeah so.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:It's going to be tough. Yeah, yeah, the XR market.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so I don't know, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, yeah, the xr market, you know everyone's trying to jump in. Yeah, I mean which, like I feel like it has like high potential, uh, just that market in general. But I mean you, I think, in order to get to that point, you have to get the software and the and the hardware to be at a certain price point where a lot of people can purchase it and experience and not just like, oh, my one friend, that owns it that lives 30 minutes away.
Speaker 1:Everyone's like let's go to, let's go to jeff's house and play call of duty on the galaxy xr yeah and I'll be like but, guys, I going to have to charge you for this because I paid $2,000 for it. Yeah, I got to get my. It's got to be $15.99 a game. Got to be Sorry, even though hopefully I'll get a review in it, but still.
Speaker 2:For real.
Speaker 1:I'll be like I still got to make money here, guys, and everybody wants to see the Galaxy XR. Anyway, I mean, the software does look good. I mean, honestly, it's just like I said, I think you got to have a certain amount of productivity features to convince someone that this is worth it, because it's just so expensive. You know this is going to be like an ultra luxury type item.
Speaker 2:I was just about to say that because it's just like you know you talk about all the time.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, like the fact is, you know, like most people don't have two thousand dollars to blow on this, because this is a very, very niche.
Speaker 1:You know, this is not a thing you need to have this is I really would like to have, and even if I would like to have it, there's a much cheaper option available that probably does the same stuff I want to do. Yep, so unless I have a very specific use case or I just love samsung, why would I buy it now? If you're deep in the samsung ecosystem, it's going to have some great features that integrate with your phone, your Buds 3 Pro and all that for sure.
Speaker 1:Like you'll be able to get your phone mirrored to your XR. All that stuff will be really cool. So if you have a Samsung phone, it will be cool, but is it $1,500? Cooler than the meta one? Probably not unless you're someone who just has a lot of money.
Speaker 2:I can see that like okay, that's like someone's Christmas present.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, it's like. It's like you know, if you need to go and buy, well, let's say you don't need to. Let's like you say you know it's the winter and you want to go buy a new scarf. You're like I'd like to have a stylish new scarf and it's like, well, you know, all the scarves pretty much do the same thing. And if there's two red scarves, and one of them is at JC Penney's and one's at Louis Vuitton, well, the one at JC Penney's costs $40, on at Louis Vuitton costs 1500.
Speaker 2:It's like well, this scarf does the same thing In general, it it looks pretty similar.
Speaker 1:Now, obviously, if you have the money and just like the styling of the Louis Vuitton, you could buy it.
Speaker 1:But what percentage of people have that money to just buy it because they just like it better is much smaller, like that's exactly what this is like.
Speaker 1:This, this is a situation where they they do the same thing, probably because most people are just going to watch media and play games on this, and so, in that sense, you know, I understand for all the listeners out there saying, well, they don't do the same thing, jeff, they don't do the same thing, Jeff, they don't do the same thing. Well, they do, in the sense that 99% of people are only going to use it for those purposes, because there really is no like killer use case in terms of productivity that I've seen of Galaxy XR or even the Vision Pro from Apple. There's no way that you can convince someone they're going to wear this during their entire workday, because one thing thing even though it's not as heavy as the vision pro, from what I've seen, it's still heavy. It's like you're not going to want to wear that on your head for your whole workday let's say I come to this office from like 8 45 till 5 45.
Speaker 1:I know I don't wear that for nine hours yeah, I just take it off and use my dual monitor setup with my laptop. Why would I? I?
Speaker 2:wonder they also want you to wear the samsung watch so it can tell you, yeah, when to get up, and then I'll connect my buds my watch, yeah, and I'll mirror my phone, and then I'll never even have to go outside.
Speaker 1:You know, no, I can just wear the headset over to pick up my doordash. Order I don't have to leave the office. Just be like thank you for my doordash, I'm here. In the x. Just be like thank you for my DoorDash, I'm here in the. Xr world right now. Yeah, thank you for this I'm logged in.
Speaker 1:Thank you for this sandwich. Anyway, I think it's going to be hard. So I mean, obviously I'm excited because I've honestly never tried an XR yet. I've held off just because of my glasses. But obviously, since it's Samsung, I kind of want to need to review it, since it's my job, so I'm going to. Yeah, they are going to have the inserts for the prescription, so I will probably spring for those inserts for my prescription so I can legitimately review it. I didn't want to do that for the Vision Pro because it's like the Apple. I can't make any content on that. It's not what I do. It'd be $3,500 plus like another $400 for the prescription lenses, so why am I going to spend $4,300?
Speaker 2:after taxes.
Speaker 1:This will be still like half the cost at least. Hopefully it'll be cool. Tab S11, s11 Ultra the launch of that looks like it's on the horizon. We've seen a million leaks of that, probably coming in the next few weeks. Ifa, which is the international I forgot what it is, but it's in Berlin. It's a big tech show where there's a lot of mobile stuff. I forgot what does IFA stand for.
Speaker 2:We've got to look it up now I can't just not know.
Speaker 1:The people have to know. Let's see. What does efa stand for? The international franchise association, that sounds. Maybe is that right, maybe I don't know. I don't want to draw the podcast by looking it up, but that's what this says. Ai overviews is probably wrong. Who knows? No, it's not. What are you talking? Oh, right here. International consumer Consumer Electronics Fair, that's what it is.
Speaker 2:That sounds right, that makes sense.
Speaker 1:It's in Berlin and Samsung will be there, so probably going to release the Tab S11, s11 Ultra sometime around there, along with the Galaxy S25 FE. I don't really know what. There's a lot to say about this. I don't understand why they keep releasing a Tab S every year because they don't do anything. I'm just being brutally honest to samsung. Like these are three devices, I mean s11 okay, because they didn't release a base model last year. They didn't release a base model s10. So I understand the s11, because one that's like the most normal size tablet.
Speaker 2:I said that last year yeah, why the hell did they not release them last?
Speaker 1:Like that was the one I would think that people would want the most, that I would want the most, not an $1,800 14-inch tablet that you have to buy a 3.4 keyboard. It's like I just buy a laptop and a phone for that price, like why I mean, unless you just like. I mean I love mine, but I only use it for watching Netflix and like answering social media notifications, not exactly, not exactly powerful use case for my $1,500, $1,800 investment.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I'm just being pretty honest, I don't know why they release one every year. They just do a little spec bump on the processor. There's literally nothing ever new, like they don't really change anything to the software. And this is a case where I have to say Samsung is just like.
Speaker 1:Samsung is way ahead of Apple and the Galaxy I side. Apple's like miles, millions of miles ahead of Samsung on the tablet. There's just no, there's no hope of catching them unless Samsung does something drastic. Because Apple is like constantly upgrading their iPad experience. Finally this year they made it so that the iPad actually has a similar operating system to Mac OS, so it kind of looks similar to their computer operating system, and so you know people have been wanting that for a long time and so finally they did that. And yeah, I mean I don't know, it's just like I don't know how Samsung could catch up If you want the biggest tablet. I mean I don't know, it's just like I don't know how Samsung could catch up If you want the biggest tablet. I mean I guess Samsung has the biggest tablet but it also stretches all the apps and Android doesn't optimize the apps for tablets.
Speaker 1:The Tab S11, if it's priced right, is probably the best Android tablet you can get, though that's a reasonable size. So there's that. I guess there's still a huge market because people just don't like apple and they only want an android tablet, and samsung still makes the best one. So samsung's like well, just be the best of android. Yeah, in this case we can compete with apple and everything else, but I mean they do and everything else. I think the buds 3 pro are better than the airpods I. I think the S25 Ultra is better than the iPhone 16 Pro Max. Obviously, I also happen to think personally. Finally, last year they got over the hump. Apple had been ahead of them in watches for so long. I think the Galaxy Watch Ultra is better than the Apple Watch Ultra too.
Speaker 1:The Galaxy Watch Ultra is a great device with amazing battery life that lasts just as long, if not longer, than the Apple Watch Ultra. Samsung finally caught them there, so it remains to be seen. Will they ever try to catch Apple on the tablets? I mean, I hope so, but I mean it seems like they just every year. It's like let's just increase the number, we will maybe make the battery 200 milliamp hours bigger. We might make it a half a millimeter thinner, so we can call it the thinnest tablet ever and we'll be like it's the thinnest and brightest and biggest, most expensive tablet that costs way more than your laptop plus phone put together.
Speaker 1:And we sell a $350 keyboard case. Why isn't it the keyboard? I mean, it's crazy. It's more than the Microsoft Surface. The Microsoft Surface is a full computer that runs windows and I know you can run dex, which is like a desktop, but it's still not full windows on the tab as 11 ultra. So you're gonna pay 1300, 1400 plus 350 keyboard case, almost 2000 after tax.
Speaker 1:Well, I can just pay 600 or so for exactly surface pro I mean honestly, you could buy a 12-inch Surface Pro the new one they released, the Surface keyboard, the Surface Pen and an S25 Ultra and probably do just as much or slightly less than buying a Tab S11 Ultra plus the keyboard Pro keyboard. That's insane.
Speaker 2:And it comes with so much. It's just insane. I remember when I bought my service pro it uh, I bought the service pro, I brought the keyboard, the mouse and the pen and I think I was around the 800 ballpark yeah, exactly how can I mean?
Speaker 1:they include the s pen with the tablet, but how can you not also include the keyboard for that price? This is not a full-fledged computer, like if you want people to hop on this. Now. If you sold it for 1200 and it came with the pro keyboard, people would probably consider buying this at a high level. But no, it's like 13 or 1400 and 350 more for the keyboard. Well, that's now like, like I said, almost 2k after tax. It's just you're really really making it difficult to sell. And then the other device, which is I don't know why it still exists. We've talked about this a couple times. The F25 FE has leaked to all oblivion as well, and it's supposed to release around the same time as the Tab S11. We don't know when, probably at IFA, maybe next week or something. Why does this phone exist either? I don't even know why the FE exists. Fan Edition what fanfare is there for?
Speaker 2:it.
Speaker 1:It's a scaled-down version of the S25+, which has a lot of S25-based features but doesn't even have as strong as a processor, because they're going to put last year's Exynos in it again instead of the Snapdragondragon, and lower storage and an inferior camera in a lot of instances. I think it's still 650 dollars too well, why, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Maybe they're thinking like well, um, you know, they're fans, so we just gotta give them a little a little taste. And they're fans, so we just got to give them a little a little taste and they're always going to buy it, cause it's the fans. Like you know, like you, you don't want the super crazy, you know slap phones we release. So here you go.
Speaker 1:They're like, they're fans, they just want to give us their money, but they don't have very much money, so we We'll just make a crappy phone, yeah.
Speaker 2:And say here you go.
Speaker 1:Slightly less, just enough that they can make a donation to Samsung corporation.
Speaker 2:And like that's not very, that's not very nice guys.
Speaker 1:I mean I mean why it doesn't need to exist? Because next year with the S 25 pro, edge and ultra, those three should fix the gamut of the flagship and then after that if you want something else, then you can step down to the a series. The a56 is still pretty. It's pretty good middle ground. I mean I still feel like that gives you enough price differentiation because, honestly, if you can afford an fe, you could just go and swap if you're in the us and you could buy a used s25 plus for the same price or less, because s25 plus used right now costs about $650. I mean, yeah, you won't be able to get Samsung carrier warranty, but you get a phone that's like five times better, much nicer display, much better processor and lots of perks if you buy the S25 Plus or the S25 FE. Anyway, I'm not really going to get us any affiliate sales for the S25 FE or Tab S11. No one's buying that.
Speaker 1:But, see, we don't have Mystery Box for it because I don't endorse these products. I'm not telling you you should go buy them. People are always like Jeff. Don't tell me you should go buy them, I'm not. I don't think necessarily very many people should buy these, so I'm not shipping a mystery box for it. Now, if Samsung makes a revolutionary tablet one year, maybe I'll consider it. I'll be like, hey, maybe we should be doing tablet mystery boxes.
Speaker 2:Jump on the bandwagon, but I need to see some innovation there.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that's 45 minutes in. I'm going to take a quick break because you know we always got to pay the bills here and plus Tori and I have to catch our breath after going in on Apple and uh, yes, 26 ultra leaks and all this stuff when we come back, though this is called a teaser in the industry tori.
Speaker 1:it's important. It's very important. Uh, we're going to talk a little bit about google's role in android and they are tightening the reins on android credentials, basically for developers as well, as there's a nice story that came out of south korea this week. We've been talking about this for a while. Galaxy phones are apparently now attracting younger fans in key markets, according to Samsung and the Korean media. We can talk about why we think that is and then also talk about why they say that that might be. But before we do that, let's take a break to hear from the sponsor of today's podcast.
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Speaker 1:All right, guys, we're back in and the second half of the show. We got two topics. I'll start with the first one, which is Galaxy phones are apparently attracting younger fans, according to Samsung anyway. It's a very interesting story and let me pull it up really quickly, tori, but you've been talking about this a little bit and talking about Samsung's marketing. Do you think Samsung has been doing a good job with their marketing recently?
Speaker 2:I do, like I mean, just about every time I go to the movies, as I'm scrolling through like Facebook or even on YouTube through like facebook, uh, or even on youtube, I'm seeing more and more um google I'm not sorry, not google, but like android um samsung, uh, like commercials and and overall, like I mean I've seen, like jayden jayden smith, a lot on there and and I kind of get confused because I just I kept seeing google's commercials recently smith was at the uh foldable event.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but you know he's been he's been a lot of commercials, uh for them, especially like the ones that they've been showing he did the edge, the s25 edge. He's looking at it yeah, you know, and uh, I really like. Uh, they also been doing like the, where you're looking at a bookcase and then you see someone pulls out from the bookcase the fold. Yeah, no, because like it's just, that it's thinner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Small book.
Speaker 2:So I like, when they do stuff like that, and I would say, ever since they did the last like not this year's July launch, the year before 2024, they've really been kind of upping the frequency of those commercials. And I just think, if they do that and if they can I which I know they mostly still do Best Buy but I think if they have more commercials and then if they got more of their phones and stuff and like nice displays, kind of like how apple does at target at more stores, I think that would really just bring it home so let's talk about what this korean story said and then we can talk about the us stuff.
Speaker 1:And, by the way, I agree with you, samsung's doing much better with their marketing. Um, they do still make fun of apple sometimes, which I don't really like to see. They had a thing, did? They usually don't do it like in big ads, like on their socials. Sometimes they'll mock Apple, like yesterday I think they had an ad little thing on their socials like mocking Apple for not having a foldable, which they really shouldn't do. That because next year Apple's going to have a foldable and they're going to take some of the market share. So it's not really that funny. They're coming, apple's coming there. But anyway, the story from the Korea Herald, which is a paper in South Korea. They cover a lot of Samsung stuff. You might call them you know some people might call them the Korean Sammy Guru.
Speaker 2:You know, I mean they might call me the american korea herald. But yeah, I'll take it as a column. Yeah, but I've heard some people.
Speaker 1:It works both ways, I've heard some people say that they could be the korean version of the sammy gurucom website. Uh, anyway, apparently samsung galaxy phones are finally gaining popularity again among south korean youths. Uh, these consumers previously preferred apple's iphone and even gave the Korean brand the tag uncle phone, quote, unquote, as in, I guess, a phone that your uncle would use. I don't know why that's derogatory.
Speaker 2:Well, hey, here we say unk, that means a good thing.
Speaker 1:Like my unk Shannon Sharp yeah.
Speaker 2:He got fired for ESPN for some scandalous stuff. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, Shannon.
Speaker 1:But he's still making millions of dollars doing his own podcast and his own YouTube show.
Speaker 1:So don't feel too bad for my own, Shannon. Thanks to the introduction of slimmer designs and powerfully high features, the company is now attracting teens people in their 20s and 30s in its home market. A recent Gallup Korea poll via the Korea Herald shows the consumers between 18 and 29 are increasingly choosing Galaxy over iPhone. Among 1,002 respondents, 46% in the age group said they would pick the Galaxy as their next smartphone, up from 36% in 2024, 10% year over year jump. Meanwhile, the preference for iPhone declined from 60% to 50%. So basically Samsung went from being a 60-30 dog against Apple. There's some 10% who prefer other phones obviously To now. You know, Samsung is basically 46% and Apple is 50%, so they're pretty close. I mean Apple's still got slightly more preference among youths in korea, which makes some somewhat sense kind of surprising, since samsung is basically the south korean economy, you know yeah, if I was, you know if I was tm row I'd be like you guys better respect my authority do you know that I'm the?
Speaker 1:guy putting the food on your plate if samsung goes under. Basically, this country doesn't exist anymore, so maybe you guys should stop buying iPhones and support your home country.
Speaker 2:It's not like.
Speaker 1:Apple in the US is one of many tech companies. South Korea's economy is built. The foundation of it is built on Samsung in some sense.
Speaker 1:Samsung is a massive part of Korea's GDP. Anyway, it's very interesting. I think it says social and viral content have greatly helped build a new perception of Samsung among young people. In a YouTube video reached over a million views in a month, a female singer praises Galaxy phones for their feature and design In her song to all friends using Galaxy. She sings from SE to 15, I've used all the iPhones you haven't. Don't mock me. I know everything about iPhones, but now I use Galaxy. You can call me oldie, but I like the 16.9 cinema screen. What song is this? This?
Speaker 2:sounds like a terrible. This sounds like an awful song. I guess this is translated from Korean.
Speaker 1:I got Aspinae, where he found this. I just went back and read the article. I was like Jesus, this song is terrible. I mean Benet, where he found this. I just went back and read the article and I was like Jesus, this song is terrible. I love Samsung, but I'm not writing a song about 16 by 9 screen.
Speaker 2:Now Sabrina Carpenter did it. It'll probably be really good for an American audience.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'll see if we can commission Taylor Swift. She just got engaged today to my guy Travis Kelsey. She might be busy, but I could see if she could maybe do a rendition of this song. You know, you just gotta shake it off.
Speaker 2:Shake it off.
Speaker 1:Anyway, another viral clip said you don't need an umbrella because it does not get wet when it is folded. You don't need a tripod whenever you are, my two hands are free. The book style folder was no longer a bulky device. The z-fold 7 features thickness of 8.9 millimeters, so apparently um. Samsung captured 82 percent of the domestic market in korea between january and july of 2025, and apple secured only 18. I don't understand. That doesn't make any sense, though. How can 50? Oh, I guess it. Maybe it does never. Never mind, I've been doing math long enough.
Speaker 2:I guess it does make sense.
Speaker 1:Because the people from 18 to 29, half of them prefer Apple, but not everyone in the country is 18 to 29. Yeah, and so they already said, all the old people like Samsung. So probably like 95% of those people, own a Samsung phone. But that's because those people know where their bread is buttered. They're like I'm not going to go buy an iPhone and support the United States, a company that's in California.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, I know that if I don't support TM Rowe, these products.
Speaker 2:I must respect his authority. You know I might not be eating. Yeah, I know I'm going to eat guys.
Speaker 1:Stop buying the iPhones.
Speaker 2:Tell those kids like put that iPhone down. I know, and really it's just the facetime that's and the iMessage oh, yeah, yeah, yeah honestly. I mean you know teaching high schoolers and stuff, now like they only really honestly care about facetime yeah, yeah, I guess that's good as I'm walking around. They're like trying to.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean now not so much, because well, I don't know if they know, but on android we've got google meet, and you can actually use google meet with iphones too.
Speaker 2:It's even better but you know, uh, when I have my s22 ultra, I mean like, and uh, whatever phone I had before that, that would run hot sometimes google meets, yeah, yeah yeah, but I think it's calmed down on the s25 yeah, yeah, it works pretty good but I mean, yeah, I mean the I message in facetime is a selling point of the ecosystem.
Speaker 1:But you know, not kidding, not a reason for me to switch, because I'll just be like, hey, I just can't talk to you at all. If you have to talk to me on FaceTime, we just won't be able to talk today. But anyway, talking about the story, I don't know what do you think?
Speaker 1:I mean, I feel like Samsung has started getting more of the younger market here. I don't know if it's for the same reasons as in Korea. I do think the thinner devices have something to do with it, so I do think that that was one thing.
Speaker 1:The story said is that the younger people in Korea see the thinner devices and they like it. A lot of these enthusiasts were lambasting the S25 Edge and saying, oh, why does this phone exist? No one asked for a thinner phone. Well, you didn't ask for it. But the people who don't ask because they don't pay attention to the tech blogs or the media are the average consumers. They don't ask for it, but Samsung realized that they would want it and Apple realized they would want it. Why? Because those are the people who care about.
Speaker 1:You know functionality and how their phone looks and all that stuff and how much space it takes up in their purse or in their bag. Those are functional things and you know, I think that the thinness is a selling point. Obviously, know I, I think that the thinness is a selling point. Obviously, the fold 7 being thin, has what sold this device, especially when it comes to foldables. Yeah, being thin matters because the fold 7 is a hit, a massive hit, I mean I don't think samsung even anticipated how well this phone would sell it's.
Speaker 2:It's like broke records no, yeah, I think broke records in every market, like it's an impressive device and, uh, I think the thinness is a big thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know that the ai is contributing in the us. No, I don't think so. You know, like I don't ever. I've never heard anyone say, even though, like we talked about earlier, the galaxy I is way ahead of the iphone, especially like image editing and stuff. If those people knew, I bet a lot of people do use object eraser in their gallery because that's probably a pretty common thing, like you have a photo and you want to get rid of something. If they know about it, I bet they probably do use that feature or they would use it. That's a feature like where it doesn't make much sense to me, like why they don't publicize this more in their commercials and stuff. I haven't seen that publicized a lot. I guess they did have it in one, I think. But why? And stuff I haven't seen that publicized a lot.
Speaker 2:I guess they did have it in one, I think, but why don't they focus on that?
Speaker 1:more because it's like a feature that the average consumer would really like. It's like someone's photobombing you and it does amazing, perfect, perfect job of getting rid of that person, doesn't alter the rest of the photo, fills in the information needs to be there yeah you know they should. They should double down on that comparison to the iPhone.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, as I reflect. I think, like with the slap phones is mostly been the now briefs with the fold, they focus not really on, like, the usability of the phone, but just like just how thin it is, you know. And so I think they're just trying these features but then, like when they do these press release or these big events or showcasing the AI, but then that really doesn't really carry over on the commercial side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. I mean, I think it's because they maybe realize in the US, the AI, I think in China and Korea they do have more commercials that are.
Speaker 1:AI-focused, they try to tailor it to the market. But I think they realize, just like we're saying, the AI might not be selling phones in the US, although we'll see, because you know, google's whole event was about AI, so we'll find out if they sell millions of pixels. That's never going to happen. But if they sell millions and millions of pixels, then we can say that AI is truly a selling point for phones in the US. But I don't see that happening.
Speaker 2:No, but you know, I say like I was hanging with a bunch of my colleagues who range anywhere from like 24 to 29. And half of them have iPhones, half of them have Samsungs and we're actually kind of debating, like you know, like, what do the people who have Samsung, what do they like about Samsung? And the people who have, you know, iphones, what do they like? And you know, when I was younger, I I thought a lot about, like you know, most people wanted a sleek phone and they wanted good battery and a good camera. But I see in like this, like in the 20s, uh, we don't, we're not really looking at that.
Speaker 2:You know, I I feel like at least the people who have Samsung, they were like, yeah, I just, I just like how it just the interface of the phone, like no one ever talked about how the phone looked. Uh, they just really like just the, uh, the one UI, um, you know, versus the iPhone, users are like, well, you know, I want to be able to connect with people. So I feel like, um, a lot of people who have samsung, they're not so focused on having that connection of that. Um, what that apple ecosystem, um, you know, it's just like, really, is that usability?
Speaker 1:what tori's saying is that samsung users have no friends oh no we don't care. We don't care about having friends we're just like hey if you guys are going to make me use that trash iOS 26, then I'd just rather not have any friends so I can keep using One UI.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, low key. I guess that is what I'm saying, and they're like you know what Tori's like.
Speaker 1:You know what, if I have to use that terrible notification management and no back gesture, then I'll just have no friends. So I can have a back gesture and real notifications, I'll talk to you guys on my phone. We don't need to hang out. I have to be friends.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If you want to talk to me, I'll be the guy with the green bubble on iMessage, no problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I know you probably didn't enable the RCS properly on your iPhone, you know, even though it exists. But I mean, I get Corey's point. I think people do care. Android and Apple users care about two things. Apple users do care more about fitting into a group, which is why I think they tend to be younger users in the US, because at that point fitting into a group is very important.
Speaker 1:When you're trying to make friends, when you're trying to date for the first time or whatever, you need to have that connection. If everybody else has an iPhone, that puts a lot of pressure on you. Um, obviously me. I'm in a much different situation because smartphones didn't come around until I was 21. So even though I was still young, I wasn't in as young to where I felt like if other people had an iPhone, I had to get an iPhone, even though I did have an iPhone for the first few generations. The iPhone came out Just because Android phones didn't really get that good until maybe like three years after the iPhone came out. Like I said, apple did pioneer a lot of things with smartphones. I give them credit.
Speaker 2:The iPhone.
Speaker 1:Obviously, if it wasn't for the first iPhone then there might not be an Android phone, because the guys who put Android on a smartphone and thought to do that would have never thought that made business sense if the iPhone wasn't so commercially successful and to at least put the momentum behind it. But I think Android fans do care more about the way their phone operates and allows them to maybe do the things they want to do uninterrupted, instead of being forced to do it in a way like Apple. With iOS you can't really customize as much right out of the box. It's like you use it the way Tim Cook says that you use it Not really Tim Cook.
Speaker 1:Obviously the software team, but I mean you use it the way it comes. Says that you use it Not really Tim Cook. Obviously the software team, but I mean you use it the way it comes out of the box. And if you want to customize it, you can, but it's going to take a lot of work to get it dialed in the way you want. So much work that, even though I do this for a living, I don't even bother dialing my iPhone in the way I could, because it's just like hours and hours of work and I'm like well, the average user wouldn't even know, and I'm like well, I'm not going to use this iPhone that much so am I really going to put in 10 hours to customize everything I'm like?
Speaker 1:no, we'll just scatter the apps all over the screen and, and you know, have no theming or widgets or anything, just like Apple intended weeks that I use it after the launch, which I'll get you know in a few weeks, because I'll get to enjoy that whole situation. But yeah, I do think they're capturing more of the market here. I don't know if it's exactly for the same reason as in Korea. I think foldables have a huge amount to do with it and, as I said, you guys again can write down my prediction as you guys listen to the podcast and revisit this, like a year from now, because that's when Apple released their first foldable. I do not think that Apple is going to bring a foldable. That is going to. Will they get some market share? Yes, but are they going to snatch the majority of the market share from samsung?
Speaker 1:I do not think so in year one no, because I think it's going to be too thick, too expensive and most people who are in the iphone camp because they are not tech aficionados they're gonna be like why the hell do I need to leave my slab iPhone Pro to buy the iPhone Fold, just like the Vision Pro? Because, look at the Vision Pro, did every iPhone user buy a Vision Pro? No, because if they did well, apple would be still developing a new one.
Speaker 1:But right now they've paused development on the second version because no one bought Vision Pro. Every iPhone user, ipadad user, apple watch user was not buying vision pro, so are they all going to buy the foldable iphone?
Speaker 2:my, my, I'm thinking. No, I think samsung still has a lead next year.
Speaker 1:And keep in mind, like we said on the last podcast, samsung the z fold 7 is not their competition with the iphone, the first iphone fold. They're still going to release a z Fold 8 next year in.
Speaker 1:July before Apple releases the iPhone Fold in September. So Samsung's still got one more trick up their sleeve, and I do not think Samsung will stay stagnant this year over year. And keep in mind, not only are they going to have one more year to refine what is already a very exciting form factor for the Z Fold 7, they also will be bringing something else new the same year that Apple is bringing something new, because next year the tri-fold will release globally, even in the US. So Apple will be like look, we have this phone that folds once. And Samsung will be like that's a cute trick.
Speaker 2:Look, we have this phone that folds a bunch of times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like isn't that cute. Yeah, it is Like you guys are so cute with your phone that folded once. Yeah, I remember when I had a phone that folded once 10 years ago. Yeah, seems like only yesterday.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They grow up so fast. That they do Into a phone that unfolds into a 12-inch tablet yeah, but that five-inch tablet or that six-inch tablet yours unfolds too, is really cute.
Speaker 2:We like it yeah, if you put two of them together you could have my phone yeah unfolds into a big tablet.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go around trolling people who have the iphone next year the last topic is a question, uh, that we got.
Speaker 1:They're like do you guys, can you guys talk a little more about android and google? And I was like, isn't that blasphemy, because don't people hate google? Someone posted that on the X last week after he posted the podcast. He's like any Android or Google news. And I was like, well, see if I can find something. And then two stories came out, one in particular that we can talk about. First, android sorry, google is finally tightening the reins on Android developers. They're basically going to make it so that all developers have to register with Google, even if their apps are distributed outside the app store, and this is for the protection of the users for Android, because obviously there's a lot of malicious developers out there who develop malware and Google wants to be aware. You know of who these people are. So, basically, if you create an Android APK, google will find you like Liam Neeson. What do you think about this story?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I think it's honestly a good move. Yeah, so like I think it's honestly a good move. In my opinion, like with the way technology is kind of heading, like they got to have you know their reins in their hands and all the time where these malware or stuff like that, like it just blends in so seamlessly with the user experience that like you don't even know that for you know phones and stuff like that and tablets, they need to kind of know and have some way to kind of vet some of these people.
Speaker 1:So basically, the way this works let me give you a little more context is right now. Obviously you know the Play Store and the Galaxy Store exist.
Speaker 1:Yeah is right now. Obviously you know the Play Store and the Galaxy Store exist, yeah, and on the Play Store and the Galaxy Store there's safeguards in place. If someone uploads an app, samsung and Google scan those apps with Play Protect or Samsung's own proprietary methods to make sure there's no malware. And sometimes they miss that too. Sometimes malware gets in because you know there's millions of apps that get uploaded to the Play Store particularly. But they try and they do a pretty good job. It's something like very small fraction of a percent of apps that get uploaded are malicious. But with android, with great power, comes great responsibility.
Speaker 1:Spider-man not spider-man, but uncle ben told me that um, and it's true, if you have an android, you have a lot of customization and a lot of options, but also right now, you can install an apk from anywhere. You can go to some shady websites in the far corners of the internet and download an apk and run it and right now, there's really nothing that happens when you install that other than samsung.
Speaker 1:You know, various manufacturers have something that pops up. You know, like right now we have Samsung's auto blocker, which will install, which will block unknown APKs initially and tell you you shouldn't do that. Well, you can turn that off easily and do it if you want. Well, google is taking this a step further, because now, if people distribute apk files anywhere, if that ak file is not from a verified developer, when you try to install it on your phone, even if you take off the auto block or whatever, google will block it no matter what and you will not be able to get around it if the developer who developed that app his signature.
Speaker 2:It's in the apk if they don't, they don't have verify their identity and put their contact info no, I, I like that, I I really do. I mean, and that's from the also to the sense of like these are. I I said it before, but these are investments. I you know, I know you want to like customize it and stuff, but you know, like it's an investment I mean at the end of the day.
Speaker 1:I understand some of the enthusiasts are upset about this because they want to be able to sideload any apk, but the fact of the matter is does this really stop you from sideloading most of the stuff you want to sideload?
Speaker 1:the answer is no no, yeah, because most of the stuff you want to sideload is open source apps that are made by known developers in the community and they maybe just don't upload them to the play store because they don't want to pay google's licensing fees. Google's's not even saying they're not. They're not trying to get around. Well, they always want to make more money, but that's not what this is about, necessarily. They're just trying to make it safer for people. You should still be able to stall APKs from trusted developers because they're going to take the time to go and verify their identity.
Speaker 1:And Google will open, you know, a early access program in October of 2025, with a community forum, priority support and the opportunity to share feedback on the program. That way they have five months before it rolls out in March 2026 in full. But I actually think it's a good thing because the fact is, even though Android is open more than iOS, that also creates more risk and if you want to appeal to average users, you've got to remove some of that risk. They try to walk a delicate balance Like you can't have it both ways, like it can't be the wild west but also locked down like a prison. It doesn't work like that. Like the OS can't be locked down so that there's no malware and also be the wild wild west that it was when Android first started, where you could just do anything to your phone. You could root it, install whatever you want at the admin level, basically brick your phone if you wanted, if you weren't paying attention. That's not necessarily good, because some average users they try to get carried away and then even just installing an unknown app from a weird website could expose your credit card info, your identity, all that kind of stuff, and that's not good for the people who are trying to use Android as their main platform. It doesn't reflect well on Android as a whole.
Speaker 1:That was the one story. And then the other question that the guy had that went along with that is what do we think about the state of Google and their oversight of Android as a whole? This is kind of a big question. I mean, I don't know if we're going to be able to fully answer the scope of this. We probably could talk for two hours about just this. But to kind of narrow this down, I'll say I use a lot of Google services and I know you do too. Right, you said Google is one of the most appealing things to you about having an Android phone.
Speaker 2:I like the Google ecosystem.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think that's true for a lot of people. I mean, just off the top of my head, what Google services do I use literally every day? I use Google drive. That's my main cloud storage solution. I use as my main storage solution Google photos all my family's photos and my work photos and my screenshots that I use for articles on the website. They all back up to Google Photos and that mirrors to my NAS drive here at Sammy Guru. But I have a cloud solution that's Google Photos for my photo backup. I use Google Keep for taking quick notes for my business.
Speaker 1:Obviously, I use Gmail not only for my personal but my business accounts, trying to think what else do I use just off the top of my head, any other Google Calendar? I use Google Calendar all the time. When I want to do a video call. I use Google Meet. Obviously, I use YouTube, which is owned by Google. I use YouTube Music for streaming my music, which is again, again extension and owned by google. I utilize youtube tv for watching streaming on the go. When I'm, when I'm like traveling, I use youtube tv to watch tv stations and stuff. I mean, I use a lot of google services, so I do think google and obviously I use the play store to download apps yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 1:And update all my apps, which goes without saying. I think Google adds a tremendous amount of value to Android. I think the question here this guy was trying to get at I don't know if he was a native English speaker or not, maybe that was I think he was trying to say do you think Samsung could go it alone and develop their own software? And I think the answer is no. I think at this point, it's too late. Google is too ingrained in the fabric of Galaxy. Yeah, and Android is dependent on Samsung and Samsung is dependent on Android. It is a symbiotic relationship. At this point, I think, if you take one of them away, neither of them will exist very long. If Android gets removed from Samsung's devices, I don't think they end up being successful. I think Apple cannibalizes and takes over the entire US market within five years. That's the honest take. Some people say that's not true. I think it is. If Google and Samsung broke up and there's no more google services, no more play store, yeah, very hard.
Speaker 2:So just think about it.
Speaker 1:I mean, think about the windows phone. Do you remember the windows phone? Yep right, the windows phone's gone now. And what was the primary reason for the windows phone being gone? I'll tell you it was not bad hardware. The hardware is actually pretty good. It wasn't bad software on windows part. The OS was pretty good and Windows just mobile. Windows mobile was pretty good.
Speaker 1:The problem and the reason the Windows phone no longer exists is because there were no apps in the Windows mobile store that people wanted. Because there weren't enough users in the beginning, people wouldn't develop apps for it. Yeah, here's the problem. If the Play Store goes away, the Galaxy Store has a fraction of a fraction of a fraction probably 0.1% of the apps that are on the Play Store. You now need to get all those developers moved over to whatever Samsung's new platform is and let's assume that they could still write a platform that's based on Android because Android's open source. Maybe Google just takes away Google services and not Android, android's open source. They could still use it, but then you don't have Google services, and so now you've got to build replacements for all of those that people still want to use and that sync across everything and convince all these app developers to optimize for your new platform and sell there.
Speaker 1:I don't know if that could happen quick enough before people start leaving for Apple, I think people start leaving for Apple because they're like well, apple's already got this great ecosystem and now that Google's gone, samsung has no ecosystem.
Speaker 2:Why do I want?
Speaker 1:to wait years for them to build this up and get all the apps that I want in the Galaxy store. Because, just like, think about it. Like, what if you went to install, like like I, for instance, for my business, like stuff I'm using for the podcast right now, what if I went to the galaxy store and I couldn't install it? I think it might be available there, but what if it's a big app I need and it's not there?
Speaker 1:that's not going to be good, you're going to be like I'm going to need to get a new phone because the apps and tools I use are not on this platform. Um, on the other hand, also if you go the other way, if Google were to lose Samsung, if Android were to lose Samsung, if Samsung were like we're just not going to make mobile phones anymore, or if they were going to do their own thing, which would be bad for them, I think Android is also screwed because majority of Android phones that are sold are galaxy phones. I don't remember what the exact number is now, but it's like 70% or something crazy. Outside of China, china has a lot of chinese manufacturers that sell specifically in china. Yeah, but outside of china it's like 60 to 70 of android phones are made by samsung, and in the us it's probably like 80 to 90, because there's really only samsung, google and oneplus. Nobody else is really selling Android phones here. It's probably 90% Samsung in the US. So if Samsung leaves, I mean Android doesn't really have anything to distribute.
Speaker 1:What do you think? I mean I don't think Samsung or Google would be in great shape without each other. Luckily, this is all hypothetical. It's a fun hypothetical question. Samsung and Google are best friends right now. They're BFFs, so it's not like we're discussing a real-life scenario where they're going to break up. Right now there's no inclination of that. At every Samsung event, there's five Google employees.
Speaker 2:Rick.
Speaker 1:Osterloh was at the Fold event and he was saying how much he loves the Foldables. They love each other, so I don't think it's going to happen. But what do you think, Dory, Could either of them survive without?
Speaker 2:each other. No, I agree, I think it's a very committed relationship. One depends on the other. I mean, samsung has kind of been there from the beginning. I remember when I was younger and I would see the droid commercials and right behind it would be Samsung, you know. Yeah, they got rid of Google services on droids. I can see a lot of people leaving, uh, because you definitely need that ecosystem.
Speaker 2:And again, um, I did love those commercials droid, droid yeah, I miss it, uh, um, but you know, like being able to. You know, google services are gone, like I feel like most people are just so on the go now that most people even buy stuff through Google services to be used on the Samsung device, like YouTube, music, youtube. I even started doing audiobooks now, so I do Google Books. I just started using that. I never used it before, but everything I do is off my samsung phone. It's because I have that ecosystem. If I didn't have that, then you know I I would need to find something else that would support.
Speaker 1:I mean, this is why I stopped using huawei phones because the us government banned huawei and they can no longer work with google, so they had to make their own OS, which is Harmony OS. Some people have said it's good but it doesn't have official Google services because it's not Android anymore. I used to review Huawei phones on my YouTube channel and I'm going to start reviewing more hardware from other Chinese brands that's in my plans soon on my personal channel, not the Sammy Guru channel but I stopped using Huawei at all once. They lost Google services entirely because of the US government banning them because they were supposedly affiliated with the Chinese government and you know the US government wasn't a fan of that, like we don't want Chinese back doors in our phones, but that's either here nor there.
Speaker 1:Whether that's the case or not, yeah, I don't think either one of them could subsist without one another. I think it'd be really tough for Android I mean Android as an open source platform could subsist without one another. I think it'd be really tough for Android. I mean Android as an open source platform could subsist, but like Android as a commercial entity where Google puts all this effort into it because it makes them so much money. I mean it makes money because why does Google put effort into Android People? Always, you know, if you don't realize, it's because Chrome is installed on all these devices as a browser. And what do people do? They use Chrome search engine.
Speaker 2:And that makes Google tons of money.
Speaker 1:Their search business is what they're all about. Their ads business, their search that's great for Google, right? That makes them so much money. Android developing Android is a small price to pay to have their search engine on billions and billions of devices around the globe, and a large percentage of those billions is Samsung. So if Samsung stopped doing that, it would become less profitable, because a lot of those phones that aren't Samsung, they're not high end phones, which means you don't have those people who have more money to spend, which means it's not as valuable to have those people searching with your search engine, because you can't serve as many ads to them that make you a lot of money. So for Google it becomes less desirable as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so, but anyway, that's not happening.
Speaker 1:You know, don't worry about that, that's not happening anytime soon, because they're they're best friends. I mean, they attend all of each other's events and they're like we love each other. You know, it's one big happy family with Google and Samsung. One last thing I want to mention, because I just thought about this before we go. Tori, you got to check this out. You probably didn't see this the Trump mobile phone. Oh yeah, I've heard about it.
Speaker 1:I know you heard about it, but look at this though Earlier this week, samsung or not Samsung, but Trump mobile posted a tweet about their and this is not political, this is just about the phone. Trump mobile posted this tweet about their upcoming phone and a couple months ago they said this was going to be the phone, and it looks like a chinese knockoff of like an iphone.
Speaker 1:It looks very much like an iphone, yeah but then, uh, donald trump jr retweeted a tweet from trump mobile saying that this is now the t1 trump phone now looks like a samsung, which looks exactly like an s25 ultra. And guess what, dory, if you look a little closer it doesn't just look like an S25 Ultra. If you zoom in on this, you'll notice this is an S25 Ultra. And guess what? This is right here Under the American flag. That's the Spigen case logo. What?
Speaker 1:they did is they took an S25 Ultra in a Spigen case on Spigen's website. They put it in Photoshoposhop, put gold on it, an american flag and the trump logo and said that that's going to be their phone yeah, you can even tell.
Speaker 2:Like in the bottom right corner there's uh yeah, this is a case, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a case.
Speaker 1:That's the cutout for the s pen, yeah s pen, yeah yeah. Spiegel even quoted it on x and said lawsuit incoming incoming.
Speaker 2:Oh really, Because this is their logo.
Speaker 1:You can see they jacked their phone up.
Speaker 2:That's the.
Speaker 1:Spigen logo imposed on the case and Spigen even posted. They even posted the case next to it. Look here PCMag did this as well. If you look at the press image, you guys I'll drop this in the show notes if you guys want to see it. This is the case right here versus what they have.
Speaker 2:They just change the color of the phone and then they put the gold and the flag and everything on top of it.
Speaker 1:I made a video about this too. It's actually insane. Like there's nothing. Whether you like trump or not like. How can you have two photos of the phone? One of them looks like an iphone android clone, one looks like an S25 Ultra and then it's discovered that this is just an S25 Ultra that you Photoshopped from a case manufacturer's website.
Speaker 1:Because, if I'm looking at this, no matter what business this is, I'd be like is this a scam? Because these two phones that they put out they're saying this is the same phone they look nothing alike. No, they look very different and one of them is a complete Photoshop of a case. So if I preorder this phone and someone's like Jeff, you should preorder it and review it. I'm thinking about it just for fun because I want to know, like, what am I going to get? Will I get anything? Is it vaporware?
Speaker 2:Will they ever ship it?
Speaker 1:But if I buy this phone, what am I going to get? Is it going to look like the left or the right? I don't know, who knows. Very strange.
Speaker 2:Sorry to say, maybe it's his own mystery box.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's his own mystery box, you know what's inside the mystery box, but anyway, you know, if you guys want to see me review the uh Trump T1 phone and and do a hardcore dive into that, I'd consider it just for the people, though, because I love the people. It really is a mystery, though, what phone you will get if you do buy one, they're $399. Technically, they're $399, so don't expect to get an S25 Ultra for real, because that'd be a great deal.
Speaker 2:I don't think they'll be able to sell you an S25 Ultra the greatest deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they won't be able to sell you an S25 Ultra for $399. No, they'd be losing quite a bit of money for that. They definitely would, and then I think they'd probably get sued by Samsung if they were reselling an S25 Ultra Very fast.
Speaker 2:Another lawsuit coming.
Speaker 1:So, anyways, it's article about that. I'll drop it below if you want to see the Spigen logo, just in case you think I'm lying to you.
Speaker 1:It's really there, they Photoshopped a Spigen case of the S25 Ultra. Anyway, that's pretty much it for this week's podcast. Lots of interesting, fun news discussion here. Next week I will have my Pixel, because my Pixel 10 Pro is coming, so I can talk a little about that. You know, tell you guys what's interesting about the pixel. Is it a phone you should switch to from your samsung? Probably not, because it didn't really change anything this year. And then in two weeks we can talk about the iphone event. And you know, see how. See how soon into the iphone event I fell asleep. And how many times tim cook talked about new colors. It's like we got amazing new colors. They're amazing features. Amazing how many times he says it's the best iPhone ever. Well, I hope so, because if it wasn't the best iPhone ever, why would I be buying your new phone? You know.
Speaker 2:Right. So they always say it's the best iPhone ever. Check out these colors.
Speaker 1:Well, I hope it is, you know, orange sherbet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, orange sherbet Very tasty.
Speaker 1:Anyway, you guys go out there this week, get yourself a big giant bowl of orange sherbet. No-transcript.