SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
One UI 8 "Delays" and Samsung's Transparency Issues + Upcoming Galaxy Hardware
Samsung is completely revamping their smartphone lineup for 2026, ditching the base and Plus model names in favor of the Pro and Edge, while maintaining the Ultra as their flagship device. Jeff and Torrey discuss Samsung's upcoming hardware roadmap, debate the One UI 8 update delay controversy, and analyze whether luxury devices like the tri-fold phone and XR headset are worth their premium price tags.
• Samsung's S26 lineup will feature Pro, Edge, and Ultra models instead of the traditional base, Plus, and Ultra naming convention
• One UI 8 is facing a two-month delay for S25 devices despite already being available on the Z Fold 7
• The Galaxy Ring 2 is expected to launch alongside the S26 series in January 2026
• Samsung's tri-fold phone may cost up to $5,000 to import due to tariffs and will initially launch only in Korea and China
• The upcoming Samsung XR headset will be priced between $2,000-3,000, making it cheaper than Apple's offering but still too expensive for mass adoption
• Samsung's tablet and Galaxy S25 FE offerings continue to confuse consumers with inconsistent naming and questionable value propositions
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Welcome back everybody. This is episode number 39 of the Sammy Guru podcast. My name is Jeff Springer. With me, as always, my co-host, Torrey Torrey, say hi, hey, how's it going? I forgot the intro last week.
Speaker 2:I forgot how to do a podcast because it's been so long.
Speaker 1:Torrey's like it's like riding a bike, but I guess not. I crashed into the mailbox riding my bike last week because I didn't even had that conversation about how we didn't know what episode it was, and we were like it's got to be 30. It was 30 because of course we have to count the ones we did on YouTube. So when I posted it I realized we already on the 30s. We're almost to 40, because I was only looking at the episodes. We uploaded the audio only to the podcast platforms.
Speaker 3:I didn't count the ones on YouTube, so we actually are we actually are.
Speaker 1:I think it's 39 now. That's pretty good. So how's it going? Tori, it's the first week. Well, you completed your first week back. We're actually recording this on Tuesday so you've been back the kids now for seven days in the classroom.
Speaker 3:Yes, seven days back.
Speaker 1:And you should be getting ready to do some content, right, how's?
Speaker 3:it going over there, yeah. So I started content out with the geometry. We Started doing some rigid transformations. My honors students were like yay. My regular students were like nah, I'm not trying to learn AV Pre-Cal. They're doing pretty good. We haven't gotten to content yet, I'm still just kind of reviewing. But I mean it's good vibes at the school, so you know it's good times.
Speaker 1:That's good. You know a lot of the students are excited the very first couple weeks though.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the thing you know. Even at the university, everybody's excited to be back for like the first two weeks. Yeah, it's week three as well, and then people realize they have to turn in homework and take quizzes and tests and all that and they're like, ah, I remember why I don't like this. Yeah, it's great when you get to just kind of talk to your friends and just kind of eating lunch doing stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't like to eat lunch? Enjoy that. Yeah, that's not when it's hot yeah, that's true, it's.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculously hot out here.
Speaker 1:I can't wait till october, because it is really, really cooking out here in phoenix I took a picture of my car the other day on x it was like 120 degrees yeah, so on the temperature. You saw that man, it was super hot. When I got in my car I was like man, it's supposed to go down to like 103 for the high this weekend, which? Is that's like a reprieve here. People are like 103, that's pretty hot, but we're not when it's been 118 plus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you were, like, oh, thank, God, two weeks of 115 plus it's like 103 sounds like it'll be just fine. I mean actually in. Arizona and Phoenix. It seems very cool when it's 103. That doesn't seem that hot in august or july yeah, right, you feel pretty good about that um. I saw freakier friday over the weekend. You saw it too yeah, yeah independently, but it was a pretty good movie. Tori saw the weapons movie the horror movie which I'll be hopefully seeing with him this weekend I'm looking forward to seeing that.
Speaker 1:that seems like a a pretty nice piece. It's been kind of crazy around for me because we're moving houses and then also just finished up shipping all the mystery boxes, so I'm just taking care of getting in. Last, like you know, some people had lost packages, whatever Someone had like a damaged package, you know, just trying to make sure people get taken care of on their mystery boxes and make sure that people are missing something, because we ship like 900, close to 900 this time. So of course there's going to be a couple of things that get either lost in the mail or damaged or something whatnot. So got to go back behind and triage that. So I sent out like thank you emails everybody participating and just said hey, if you have an issue, just message me. Try to be proactive.
Speaker 3:So that way people don't go to.
Speaker 2:Reddit and be like oh, Jeff Springer's cam, that doesn't fit.
Speaker 1:And I'm like guys well, if you've got a bad case, I mean I understand, but just shoot an email. I mean I'll certainly get you another one and then, fulfilling all the silver and golden tickets, I've already gotten emails from everybody.
Speaker 3:Oh nice, so I'm getting those.
Speaker 1:Galaxy Buds 3 Pro and those watches, those watch selections. Yep, who won the golden ticket? There was three of them. They all chose the Watch Ultra, which is surprising to me. I thought some people would get the Watch 8 Classic.
Speaker 3:No, I'm telling you the Watch Ultra. I stand by it.
Speaker 1:It's a good Because they released a new color this year. I don't know if you saw the marine blue when I was at Unpacked. It's got slightly more storage. It's got 64 gigs of storage. Yeah, I don't really know why, because on my smartwatch I'm not storing a lot of stuff. I guess if people are hardcore runners maybe they store a lot of their music, but 32 gigs is plenty for me, even if I was using it as my only device to pair my buds to when I was running.
Speaker 1:I usually have my phone, but I understand, and maybe I should try it, because when I go to the gym, first of all I need to get back in the gym. I've been in a while. I've been busy Busy guy. Yeah, I usually don't. I usually take my phone with me to the treadmill and have it there. Maybe, though, I think a lot of people they just pair their buds to their watch and then take the phone. Yeah, because then they just sit there and they have to worry about, like, the thing falling off the treadmill or, you know, your screen gets all smudged up with sweat and stuff like that. It's actually a good idea when I think about it, but still I don't think I would need more than 32 gigs of music for my workout playlist.
Speaker 1:I mean, how far am I running? I mean, 100 songs is like maybe a gigabyte. I'm pretty sure that's like five hours. I'm not running any marathons anytime soon, and even if you are, I'm pretty sure that's enough music for that.
Speaker 3:Anyway that was interesting that all the people who won the golden tickets they want an ultra.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're just like I got the free prize, I just want the most expensive. Well, yeah, no, let's just make jeff buy me the most expensive one it's free, yeah, take it, but the watch a classic, I don't know it's. It's a nice watch if you like the rotating bezel. That's why I was.
Speaker 1:I thought some people would still miss the potentially choose that it'd be nice if they brought that back and added it to the Ultra, but then that would lose the distinction between the Classic and the Ultra. There wouldn't really be much left because they're almost the same size it's 46 versus 47. So if you put the rotating bezel on the Ultra, then they don't need to be separate anymore. You just merge them into one watch, which maybe they should do. They got way too many watches.
Speaker 3:We can talk about that. So do you think like the Ultra will never get a rotating bezel?
Speaker 1:I don't think so, unless they do eventually decide to merge them, because it just wouldn't make sense for them to have the two separate product lines Because they're not really different sizes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Really, do they still have like the lower, like the active one? I call it the active watch, not the active, it's just the standard watch.
Speaker 1:So now they have watch eight, which comes in 40 and 44 millimeters. So there watch eight, which comes in 40 and 44 millimeters. So there's two models, because they're two different sizes. Yeah, then there's the classic, which is 46 millimeters but has the rotating bezel, and then there's the ultra, which I think, is it the 47? It's 40, maybe it's 49 millimeters, so it is a little bigger than the.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, classic, I think it is and that's at the very top in.
Speaker 1:So it's like the pricing breakdown. It's like watch 840, watch watch 844, watch classic and then watch ultra. Those are the four main watches. They also have some. They still sell some of the older models. So if you don't want to spend as much money, they still do have a watch seven. You could buy on like the Galaxy store, samsung shop and you could definitely do that. If you want to save some money, I mean for most people, unless you're like a hardcore enthusiast, even more so than like a phone you don't need to upgrade your watch every year for a smartwatch, there's just not.
Speaker 3:I'm good with this for at least like another few years.
Speaker 1:They're not doing anything. I mean, unless you're like either one, you have like some health problems and you really want like some of the new health features they have trickled out, like some blood pressure monitoring. So like if you have some health issues you want to monitor, maybe that would make sense. But I mean, in terms of overall features it's even less of an upgrade than a phone like year over year. Yeah, I would say two to three years is more than enough for most people. Probably three years Kind of just like the phone. Like if I was an average person I'd just be like three years. That's what I'm doing. Like I buy a phone this year yeah, I watched this year.
Speaker 1:I'm not buying another one of either for three more years yeah, yeah, yeah that's like the point right now where, like, if you wait three years, it's gonna feel like a pretty substantial upgrade no because every year they do like two or three small things. But if you add up all of those nine things, they did over three years.
Speaker 1:It seems like a big thing because you're not seeing them in those incremental changes like we do. You're just going to go from like this phone it's going to be like oh, there's like 10 new things Plus I've got a whole new operating system. It seems like a big upgrade, just like you did from the S22 to the S25. And speaking of that, let's talk about it because I said we would do it last week. We talked a lot about hardware last week. We're going to go into some software this week too, but talk about the new lineup for the S26, because Samsung is going to shake things up entirely.
Speaker 1:I mentioned this last week, but now we can talk about a little more of what their plans are. Instead of having the base model, the plus model and the ultra and we spent all last week talking about the ultra so we'll focus on the other two. This year we had S25, s25 Plus. Next year those two models. They will not exist in those names anymore. They will now have the S26 Edge, which will presumably replace the Plus model, and the S26 Pro, which is now presumably what they're going to call the lower model.
Speaker 3:Now we've heard some different rumors about the two devices.
Speaker 1:It name choice yeah, yeah, it's interesting name choice, and we can talk about what this kind of what we think this might mean.
Speaker 1:We've heard in some rumors that the S26 Pro might come with a 4175 milliamp hour battery, and then the Edge would come with a battery size of, I think, 4,200 milliamp hours, which is bigger than the 25 edge, which was 3,900 milliamp hours. I'm looking at our article that we wrote on this, so presumably, again, this means that we're going to have basically a slightly different envisioned breakdown of who should buy each phone. Now, we don't have 100% confirmation yet on this exactly, but the S26 Pro is probably going to have a smaller screen size than the Edge, I would imagine, because it's going to be closer to that base model size, and that would make sense because it's also not going to be quite as thin as the s26 edge. The s26 edge is going to be like the s25 edge, yeah, pencil thin, and so the question is, though what are they going to make pro about the base model, because pro is kind of it's kind of a weird name.
Speaker 3:Yeah I think this is I was thinking, what I was thinking, I mean like because you have Apple, they use the name Pro.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so I think, as like a regular consumer like I, would think Samsung would need to like kind of up their marketing a little bit with these changes, to really just kind of like emphasize like what is going to be different about these phones, or I wouldn't know what to buy as the average consumer about these phones or I wouldn't know what to buy as the average consumer.
Speaker 1:So the question is if you heard s26 pro, it's kind of confusing because obviously we know samsung's ultra line sits at the top of their line. But I think this is one of the reasons apple never unveiled an ultra blind, because it's like well, pro already is like top of the line for them. Yeah, so are you going to go one step above and then you have like super premium? You just have premium, super premium, and then what is the edge?
Speaker 3:I think I would prefer the edge on the lower tier, like to me, like you got edge pro ultra.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Maybe something like that yeah.
Speaker 1:And here's the thing we really don't have like there really aren't any leaks aside from the battery We've only covered. I just looked through our article lists that the guys have covered over on the site at Sammy Guru. We don't really have any leaks aside from the battery. So we don't know. So the question is I thought it'd be kind of fun for us to talk about, since it's always nice we don't know anything, because you can kind of talk about what they should do. You know, are they? My question is do we think Samsung is really going to make this any different than the real base model?
Speaker 3:Or is it just?
Speaker 1:a real? Is it just a renaming?
Speaker 3:I think it's just like a renaming probably.
Speaker 1:Is it still going to look just like the base model S25? Just slap a fresh coat of paint on it. It's going to have the new camera, rings, new colors it's going to have the new camera, rings, colors, and they'll be like oh look, it's the s26 pro, yeah. And then be like well, what's pro about it? Does it have the same camera as the ultra? Well, no, it doesn't have that no does it have a bigger screen?
Speaker 3:no, it doesn't have that, but it's still pro. It's still pro. Does it have an s-pen? Absolutely, not absolutely not.
Speaker 1:Does it have the new 60 watt fast charging of the ultra? Absolutely not.
Speaker 3:Yeah you got to pay 400 more for that yeah, but it's pro it is very professional and I I would prefer if they just did s26 and then s26 edge and then s26 ultra.
Speaker 1:I I if they're not going to change anything on the base model. It's very. It would be much better because it's very facetious to call it a pro and do nothing yeah, that's going to piss a lot of people off including me because pro, at least from the apple standpoint, and and I mean we don't like apple here, I don't like apple.
Speaker 1:I mean we could talk later too about a little bit at the very end, because it's not an apple podcast, but apple released ios 26, beta 6. They got like more betas for ios 26 than samsung ever had.
Speaker 1:So people hating on samsung, call your jets apple's. Apple's had a disaster with liquid glass. We'll talk about that later. They finally got some things right, but we don't love Apple here. But I will say the Pro on their models makes sense because it's always referenced. The Pro camera, pro and the pro max is that the base iphone has a far inferior camera in terms of photo and video quality to the pro and the pro max. And the pro and the pro max thing makes sense too, because one is bigger than the other, so max. So at least apple's naming makes sense. Samsung's naming is going to be a complete disaster because, I mean, none of those names identify or tell the consumer what it is that I'm getting when I buy that particular model. You're like pro Well, what's pro about it? A lot of people who are average consumers are like edge Well, what the hell does that mean?
Speaker 2:We know what that means because, obviously we're Samsung fans.
Speaker 1:We've followed the brand's arc and we know that. Back with the S6 Edge, you know, 12 years ago, years ago, whatever they released a phone that was called edge and they're trying to bring that brand identity. Yeah, and this one is thin, but some people can't remember from 12 years ago because they don't follow, it's not their hobby, because they don't care about consumer tech like that they're like I remember the edge and that was the edge, and that was like one of my first ones but if you're an average person who is not a samsungist, you're not going to be like an edge.
Speaker 1:What does that mean?
Speaker 1:Does that mean that like it might cut my fingers Because the abs are just too sharp, I don't know. And then the Ultra. It's like, well, ultra, okay, most people probably get that, but they're going to be confused, particularly about the difference between the Pro and the Ultra. And the other problem is they don't have any size differentiators like Apple does, at least on their top-tier models and now on their base models, because they have the iPhone 16 and the 16 Plus, oh, yeah, yeah. And then the iPhone 16 Pro and the Pro Max. The Plus means larger, the Max means larger. I really think they could just make those both Max and just put the Pro in the middle. That would actually do a little bit to clarify Apple's. But there's just much better than Samsung's right now, because nothing in the name says anything about the size. The S26 Pro is going to be relatively small Yep, you don't know exactly the size, but probably 6.1 to 6.3 inches in the display. The edge will be like medium, but still pretty close to the Ultra. It's like 6.7 inches.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The Ultra will be 6.99, close to 7-inch diagonal screen, but no one can get that from the name. I think that's a huge problem, honestly, because people should know what they're buying. I agree, particularly when the prices are going to be kind of different and you see the Pro and, assuming they don't change much, if it's $899 or $799 like the base S25, is you're going to be like well, it's $500 less.
Speaker 3:It's $500 less and it's Pro Wow that's great.
Speaker 1:I should spend $500 less and I'll get such a Pro phone. Maybe that's what they want people to think.
Speaker 3:Maybe. But then you get it and you're like I'm going to blindside the average consumer because I'm gonna be like, wow, I got a pro. But what's pro about it is?
Speaker 1:and if you are someone who knows, like a surface amount of samsung, that might be even worse, because if I wasn't paying attention and I didn't follow things closely, I might be like oh pro, does that mean like the ultra, but without the s pen?
Speaker 3:you just take everything to take everything, price right?
Speaker 1:yeah, take everything except the s pen, which is great. I like that and just drop five hundred dollars off, because of course obviously the S Pen takes $500 to put that on the phone. That's obviously false. But if I was an average person who didn't know any better, maybe I would think that and then I'll get a great discount. Some people don't you guys think it's funny listening to the podcast. Some people don't read the spec sheets man at all.
Speaker 3:No, they don't. People go into the damn Best Buy carrier store.
Speaker 1:They're just like oh man Pro. Pro versus Ultra $500 less, let me have it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean they don't pay too much attention until they actually get it home. Some people will buy it on Verizon AT&T's website or the Samsung website.
Speaker 3:Especially with, like all those deals in the market.
Speaker 1:Get the S26 Pro for $0, with the trade-in of any smartphone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and if you buy one, you get another one. If you add another line, if you buy one, you can get four more for 99 cents.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as long as you agree to a 17-year contract. Yes, lock it in for the next 347 months. Yep and we will give you five lines for free and you're like well, 17 years that's about $29,000 worth of payments to you. I don't think the favorite phone's free.
Speaker 2:I feel like. I'm really paying for the phone over a very long period of time.
Speaker 1:I'll probably be paying for that until I qualify for social security.
Speaker 3:And then there won't even be any social security left, because they're basically spending all that money.
Speaker 1:So I'll still be stuck for paying for that phone. I don't have any social security to help me pay for it. Anyway, I don't know, man, we got to get more details, but I think it seems like on the surface it just is a renaming, because we haven't heard of any. I mean, I don't know, I guess we'll just wait till we get more leaks, but I think it could be very weird if they don't change anything. What I would like to see, if you ask me what I'd like to see pro, if they go the direction that apple goes, just take, because they did this with the edge.
Speaker 1:Maybe all of them have the same primary camera, so you find a way to get that 200 megapixel camera. Maybe you don't put the new stuff, because of course there's a few new things we talked about last week that are going in the s26 ultra. Yeah, some of the new macro, the new lens on the primary camera. Maybe you don't put that, but maybe you put the 200 megapixel from the s25 ultra, slap that in the s25 pro, then you can call it pro because it has a much better camera. Yeah, obviously far improved from the s base s25. Then it would at least make sense. I mean, you don't have to change many things, but at least upgrade the camera so that the camera megapixels are now consistent across the lineup. And so then really, I mean it's still kind of unclear to people what you get from going from, because you don't really gain anything from going from the pro to the edge.
Speaker 2:You lose something, you lose weight which I guess is gaining portability yeah, or something or usability, but you don't really you don't gain any like performance features.
Speaker 1:You don't gain any software features.
Speaker 1:You don't gain any camera features yeah you just gain the ability to have a lighter phone with still a bigger screen. So I mean, I guess that's something and I'm not hitting on the edge. I actually like it. If you guys go, I wrote a full review on the Edge after using it for about a month. I took it to a trip. We went on to Las Vegas in June, took a lot of pictures. The Edge is a great phone. I don't hate on the Edge. I think the Edge is actually very good. It didn't sell a lot this year. That's because they released it in the mid-cycle.
Speaker 1:That was very hard to phone when you release it on May 30th, I mean that's a very tough sell.
Speaker 3:They have it here during one of the main launches.
Speaker 1:So now that it's going to launch with the actual S26 lineup as a whole, the S26 Edge has a chance to take a big piece of the S26 Pie. It had no chance this year just because anybody who would have even considered it had already bought a Plus or an Ultra in January the enthusiast and the average people. It was too new of a phone to really educate them about how it fits into the lineup and they didn't even have a really big event. So there wasn't a lot of, there wasn't as much press coverage, so it was just kind of dead on arrival. Oh no, no, so I don't know, we'll see. I mean, I just wanted to talk about that because of you know rumors about what's going to happen with the lineup. Now they're changing all the names except the ultra, not changing the name of the ultra.
Speaker 1:It's going to be there cannot keep, cannot change the ultra name because that's the flagship.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they sell too many of those. So like the names kind of remind me of like the street fighter 4 games where they're like street fighter 4 super, street fighter 4 ultra super you know, just change all the names.
Speaker 1:Maybe we should change the name to the s26 ultra, mega, ultra, alpha, mega, supreme, yes, ex gx, mega, vmax turbo remix, turbo remix rainbow style yeah, there's some pokemon naming in there yeah, and all you get is like two extra characters. You get the EX TX and Mega there you go and they're like it's an extra $100, though You're like what, what?
Speaker 3:$100?
Speaker 1:It's the same game, it's the same game, just a couple of downloads. Gotta calm down, guys. Yeah, I know we need that money. You guys don't like $80 games. How about $100 games? Yeah, we're raising the prices. Raising the prices we're bumping them up, everything's going up. Yeah, let's talk about One UI 8, because of course, last week we came back and you know we're always talking about software People are like where was the One UI discussion? Well, you a little retrospective. We did a S25 Ultra re-review last week.
Speaker 3:We talked about some hardware we're trying to ease into it.
Speaker 1:So 1UI8, there's a lot of talk this week because, as you remember because we've talked about it forever when we first started the podcast, 1ui7 was infinitely pushed back. It took about between 1UI6, the previous 1UI6 point release and 1UI7 official. The total time to release it was about 15 months.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's a long time.
Speaker 1:Usually, you know, they try to turn it out every year, but they were delayed by about three to four months and there's obviously a lot of people were upset about that and there was a lot of questions about back in January because of course, the S25 ultra launched with one UI seven about whether or not Samsung was withholding one UI seven from the older phones to sell more S25 units and at the time I was like, well, I mean, that doesn't really make much sense because, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 1:I mean, even if you're like from Tori's perspective, because it's. I mean, if I do that and the people who, if I'm looking at buying an S25 and let's say I'm an educated consumer, because that's the only people who would affect anyway the average consumers don't know anything about. People overestimate how much the average person knows, again, about smartphones in general. If you're not at least somewhat interested in tech, you might not even know what version of One UI is on your phone.
Speaker 1:My wife doesn't know at all If I didn't tell her that One UI 7, she got a One UI 7 update. The only thing she might say to me is she'd be like I got an update the other day and now my notifications and quick settings are separated. She told me that when she got the One UI 7 update. She's like that kind of pisses me off and I was like well, you can change it back by just tapping these buttons here and she's like oh okay and I was like what do you follow the semi guru?
Speaker 1:and I was like. I was like what else do you think about it? And she's like eh, it's okay you know I mean, like most people aren't going to be like there's not, even though it was a massive change and it was like it changed a lot of stuff, unless it changed something that fundamentally disrupts their flow yeah, it's not.
Speaker 3:They'll never know, they won't really notice.
Speaker 1:It's usually not the new features that wow the average user.
Speaker 1:It's if you disrupt something that they'll notice which is unfortunate for companies like samsung and apple, because you risk pissing people off. By changing the software the the average person buying a phone, whereas if you don't change anything, you risk pissing people off, like the people who listen to our show and read the podcast, read this website and watch my videos the enthusiasts. They want you to change stuff and add features, but then you risk changing too much stuff and you make those people mad yeah but I can tell you the average person was not deciding whether or not to buy an s25 device based on One UI 7.
Speaker 1:That's preposterous, because most of them probably didn't even know One UI 7 was on the phone. They might have saw a couple of cool features from the S25 thing and be like, oh, I want those features. Maybe. Maybe they did that, but certainly I don't think Samsung was withholding One UI 7 to sell more S25 units. That's what I thought back then.
Speaker 1:But now, right, one UI 7 pretty much rolled out fully not fully, but to most of the recent phones in April and May and they had already started development on One UI 8, which was great. People were like, oh, that's going to come out super early, there'll be no problems, no pushbacks, and of course it launched on the foldables. When I went to unpack last month, they announced one ui8 is running on the fold 7, the flip 7, all that. It's great. And they're like, oh well, then they're just going to be on the s25 like two weeks away and it's be like by the end of july for sure, no problems. And of course it's not. It's august 12th right now, and Samsung announced a couple days ago that One UI 8 is now not coming to the S25 series until September, which is two months after it launched on the Z.
Speaker 1:Fold 7 and Z Flip 7. So there's a lot of conversation about this because a lot of people on X have once again been saying, oh well, samsung's doing this again to sell folds and flips, which I don't know what I think about this.
Speaker 1:A lot of people weighed in our good friends who, well, they don't really like us very much, but our friends at Sam mobile they made a video on YouTube talking about how it's preposterous that Samsung would be doing this, which is kind of what I said in January too. This doesn't make any sense to withhold it Plus. As I said in January, if you perpetually delay the previous phones, any of the educated consumers who saw that would be like well then, why am I going to buy an S25? Because next year I'll just be waiting. When the S26 comes out, I'll just be waiting for four months to get the next update. S26 comes out, I'll just be waiting for four months to get the next update.
Speaker 1:So why would I buy an S25 based on the fact that it had an exclusive software? If you're a somewhat intelligent and educated smartphone buyer, you're not going to do that, and if you're the average consumer, you don't really care about One UI at all. You just care about some of the features, and there weren't a lot of One UI specific features, even with One UI 7, that I think a lot of users who are buying a new phone, who are not smartphone enthusiasts, are going to say wow, I'm going to spend $1,300 to get that cool notification panel or to get these One UI 7 features that were shown in the event. I just don't think there's a significant enough investment from Samsung to do that, to make that part of their marketing strategy. But I don't know.
Speaker 1:Now that they're doing it again, it's kind of weird. And the reason I think it's weird is because I'm running the beta of One UI 8 on my S25 Ultra. This is the fourth beta and it's fairly stable. There's just a couple of features missing and it really seems like they could just drop those features and push it out the door and call it stable, but they haven't. So I don't know, tori, what do you think Is Samsung withholding software updates? Because they've done it now twice? With One UI 7, I said, okay, there's no way, because One UI 7 was a massive update. Obviously it made sense that they needed extra time and so I was not suspicious.
Speaker 1:You could tell it needed extra time I was suspicious, but this update like this is fine, like this is great. On beta 4, I mean, there's no problem. I use this every day. It doesn't have any hiccups, does have bugs. It's just missing a couple features that are on the fold. Seems like they just drop the features in, push it out tomorrow.
Speaker 1:It'll work from your perspective as an average consumer, just talking about the flagships because we'll talk about the other phones in a minute minute because I'll talk about some of the things that are issues with rolling it out to all phones at once. But what do you think in terms of the flagships? Are they withholding it from previous models just to sell product?
Speaker 3:I mean, I don't think so. I think you kind of hit the what is it? The tail on the donkey. Most average consumers are not thinking about the software updates. They're just looking at okay, something new I want to upgrade. Tell me the camera, tell me the battery life, what's the user interface is like and that's it.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, I, I think the average consumer could really just care less about the software updates and kind of like, what you're seeing, like with Nicole, I mean like when I wake up some mornings and I have an update, is like I'm looking at, oh, okay, cool, how sleek it is like, but it's only if I come across it.
Speaker 3:I'm not digging through and looking for every single. Like, like most people, we probably just hit okay on like the little notifications thing that tells you everything that was updated. So, like I don't agree really looking for it, I think, is probably more so. They just want to make sure that everything is good. So, you know, whatever features that they're currently missing on the beta, you know I think they're probably just going through it with a fine comb. Um, you know, because, like we, we talked about it before on the, on the podcast, with the One UI 7. I mean they have to kind of regain the community's trust with the role of the updates, because, man, that just took so long and people were just like when are we going to get One UI 7 stable?
Speaker 1:And I think the key is and we were talking about this in the Slack for Sammy Guru, me and the other writers I think the key is Samsung just needs to be a little more transparent with their update strategy, because they run all these betas but they don't really tell anyone anything about what's going on. So we rely on all these leakers, like Ice Universe, and then, of course, we all report them as news outlets, as blogs, because people want to know. I mean, it's news. News is what people want to know, and if people care about it and it's out there someone who's a news outlet, like us, we're going to publish it, as long as it's from a reliable source.
Speaker 1:But it would be better if Samsung just put it out there themselves, like, instead of letting Ice Universe leak out, like, oh, samsung found XYZ bug in 1.8 beta 4 and that's why they can't push the update to critical bug. Why doesn't Samsung just put out a press release, forward it to us, sam mobile, sammy fans, android authority, and let us just write it directly from the horse's mouth. That would be better. Then you could put your own spin on it. You could be like oh, this is a critical problem and we can't put.
Speaker 1:We can't put this update out because this could put your data at risk. It could be a security issue.
Speaker 3:You know we see companies do this all the time, like I mean like utilize x, I, I, I see a lot of I. I see sony, microsoft, like you know, whenever there's something going on with like their servers or stuff like that, or like a beta or something, if something's not going right, you just tell the people, yeah, if they would if they would give more insight and I think, also the same thing in the change logs.
Speaker 1:if you look at samsungelogs Sumit wrote a piece on this on the website the other day Oppo, which is a Chinese manufacturer they have their changelogs extremely detailed with screenshots of like the new stuff and new features and like which bugs have been fixed. If Samsung went through that level of detail like they do, I think people would feel a lot better about the updates. But Samsung is very vague with their change log. Even with the big updates, they put out a list of things that are just rattled off. There's no visual indication.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. I think that's what gets at least to me as an average consumer, why I just said, okay, who's going to sit there and read all that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like if you had a visual onboarding to the update. You have some screenshots that show you what the features do. Instead, you have to like dig through and find the tips section and you can go through some of the tips. But if the whole changelog had a way to like see visually what each thing was, maybe more people would look at it. There'd be more transparency too.
Speaker 3:And, like I said, even a video. I mean people, people like hire me to make a video.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll do it. I only charge a hundred thousand dollars to samsung if they want me to make one onboarding video for one new i8 hey, you know, but it's only because I know they have it. Yeah, you know it's all proportional to the brand's value, you know that's how I work my rates oh, yes, of course, if I know the brand is worth 100 billion, 500 billion, a trillion dollars. Of course've got to charge them a little more.
Speaker 3:This is the way it is.
Speaker 1:It's not personal.
Speaker 2:It's just business. It is just business.
Speaker 1:But I mean, at the end of the day, I think the transparency would go a long way. And as I'm sitting here looking at it, I mean I watched the video that Sam Mobile made because some people sent it to me. I gave him a view. You, that Sam mobile made because some people sent it to me, I gave him a view. You guys are welcome, but I watched the video and I listened to what Daniel had to say. I mean some parts of it.
Speaker 1:I certainly agree with what he's saying, but I also can see the point from the people on X is to, they don't know what's going on. And so from their perspective, if they're using the beta, like me, it seems like, well, why aren't we just pushing this as the stable? Because the Fold 7 stable build had some bugs too, so it's not like it was all that stable when it first came out. But then I'm also looking at it from the perspective of like, well, is Samsung really using it to sell phones? Do they need to? I mean, the Fold is an amazing piece of hardware. If you look at this Fold, you don't need to. I mean, the fold is an amazing piece of hardware. If you look at this fold, you don't need to sell.
Speaker 3:You don't even need to sell them on one ui8 at all this thing is insane looking at it and you're like I want that yeah this thing is insanely.
Speaker 1:This hardware is amazing. If you had a fold six, even from last year, like this is an instant upgrade. If I had a fold six and I had the money, I just be like I'm gonna buy one because it's so much better. It's like half this it's got. The battery life has actually settled in really nicely. The camera is better because it's got the basically the same one as the s25 ultra. I mean there's really not a huge any problem with this phone that I mean I can really make a big complaint about. Yeah, so do they really need to sell one ui to get average people to buy this?
Speaker 3:absolutely not you know, and I'll even argue. I mean like what we were talking about earlier, how people just go straight into like their carriers, like what people want, and again what Samsung is really good for is like the gimmicks and stuff. So like when I look at that fold I'm like I see a bunch of people like, yeah, if I got the money, I'm just going in to buy it, I don't care about the software or anything like that. I mean because One UI 7 was already good.
Speaker 1:So it's like even if I knew something about Samsung software, I wouldn't be like, oh, I got to have One UI 8 on this phone, like that's not a selling point Like that's not selling any more folds. Like holding One UI 8 away. Someone's going to be like oh man, I really have my S25 Ultra, but I really have to have one UI8 one month early, so I'm going to go spend $2,000 to buy a Fold 7.
Speaker 3:No one's doing that. The Fold 7 sells itself.
Speaker 1:Unless you just want the Fold and the Ultra and then you're going to buy both of them anyway. And there are people who have the money and obviously do that. Obviously I don't do it just because I want to waste money. I do it just because I want to waste money. I do it because obviously my business and I need it to cover the stuff. I would not have all these phones if I wasn't making money off of it, just even though I like them.
Speaker 1:I definitely wouldn't have 40 phones if I wasn't making any money off of them. I even try, I try to prune mine down. You know some people, some of these YouTubers they save all of them. Like I don't have the storage for that. Man Over over time, like after they're two years old, try to sell them or give them away or something. I can't have hundreds of phones. Like where am I going to store all these phones? Plus you got to keep them charged and stuff. Yeah, like it's.
Speaker 1:I don't understand. I, I know some people have, like I guess if you're doing that well like mkbhd or mr who's the boss, you're making 10 mil plus you can make a room just to store your phones. We're not not doing that well here, yet I don't have enough money to store my phones in a dedicated room. We've got to keep it going just a little bit more. Sell a few more mystery boxes, then maybe I can afford to store my phones in their own room, but not just yet. So I don't know.
Speaker 1:To summarize, I'll say I do not believe still that Samsung is withholding updates specifically to sell hardware. I just don't believe that. And that's no slight to the people on X who made these comments. I think the problem as well I'm sure Daniel's not listening to this from Sam Mobile, but if he does I think the problem was that the way he presented in the video he presented it like he was attacking those people on X in particular and those are members of the community, samsung community. They want to feel like their opinion is valued and they have an opinion and they have a reason to believe this, because Samsung doesn't communicate to them what is going on. So I think that's the reason why they felt slighted by some of the things he said in the video. But I mean, I don't want to slight them, I just don't think that's the reason. I think Samsung needs to be more open, more honest, communicate with people about what's going on with the updates, and then we won't have these conspiracy theories about oh, it's delayed, even though that was the big debate was is it really a delay?
Speaker 1:Because One UI 7 just came out in April. It's only five months. That's the shortest cycle ever, but it's just like. The perception is reality, man, no matter how you want to spin it, if you launch a phone like the Fold with one UI8 stable and you take two months to release it on the phone that just came out, seven months ago. People are going to perceive that as being a delay, because that's a long-ass time.
Speaker 3:It is a delay At that point it's a delay.
Speaker 1:People look at the iPhone launches and they say, well, apple releases iOS to every iPhone in the world on the same day and so if you don't do it, at least within a week of releasing it. It's a delay. Perception matters Whether it's really a long time or not, and it's not. April to September is five months and that's the shortest time ever between two One UI updates. So from the time perspective the real meaning of the word delay it's not really delayed from the traditional cycle of One UI. But when you release the stable update on a fold phone and then you say, oh hey, you guys who bought the S25 Ultra in January, go screw yourselves.
Speaker 1:I'm making some gestures here in the podcast office that we can't put on audio.
Speaker 1:No, we can't you say hey, go screw yourselves and all that money you spent less than seven months ago. We're going to make you wait until September for this update. Of course people can perceive that as being a delay and it does go back to the problem of Apple releases it to everybody on the same time. But we've talked about this before on the show. There's a reason for that and that's what I was alluding to before when I said we'll talk about the other devices.
Speaker 1:If you think about all the devices that Samsung sells, they sell hundreds of SKUs. Apple sells like six SKUs that all run the same type of processor made by Apple. Samsung sells like hundreds of SKUs at various price points. Not all the processors are made by Samsung. A lot of them are made by Qualcomm. Some of them are even made by MediaTek. So three different companies. They all have way different range of capabilities, because some of them are phones that sell for $100. Some of them are phones that sell for $2,000. The ability to push out the software update I know people don't want to hear it, I've said it many times in my career covering Samsung and Android the ability to push out software updates all on the same day for Samsung is a fantasy, a pipe dream.
Speaker 1:Very pipe, it's just like it's just like that movie that Tori saw Weapons. It's not real. Not real, it didn't happen. It's a fallacy, it's not going to happen ever. There's just no way Samsung can push out one button that says oh one, UI 8, everybody's got it in the whole world. You can download it today.
Speaker 3:Don't expect that to ever happen.
Speaker 1:Now some people on X said well, jeff, you're right, I forgot who said this Fidel. I forget his handle exactly, but I'm trying to give him a shout out because I think he's the one who said it. Maybe they could do it for the flagships. Now, there you go. Now, that is what they should do and that's the accountability level we should hold them to. Any flagships that have come out in the last, say, two years at least, should all get the update on the same day. If you release One UI 8 on the Fold 7 on July 9th, you should say hey, everybody who has an S25, Z Fold 6, z Flip 6, s24 series later today, go ahead and check update button, download your one new i8. You guys will get it today everybody gets it other models will follow in the next couple weeks.
Speaker 1:But everybody who has the most recent two years of flagships, you guys, get it the same day. That seems very fair to me.
Speaker 3:No, I I think that's very fair. Yeah, consumers will like that. That's the kind of transparency people would appreciate because I think people would understand.
Speaker 1:like again, this is another instance where Samsung doesn't communicate the reason. Right, like people people aren't stupid, the people who do care about updates. If you told them this and explained it as I do and a lot of times when I explain this to people who've asked me in comments, they say, oh well, I understand that they don't like it. They say, oh well, I understand that they don't like it, but they understand it. Why they can't just push it out to everybody on the same day? It's not the same as Apple. But if you just said, okay, we can't do it for every model, but all the Qualcomm flagships which have Snapdragons in them S24, s25, whatever recent Snapdragons we'll push the update to all those phones at the same time because they all have enough power to run the recent features that are in the update and you guys will get it. So if you bought the phone recently, you're at least getting two years of day one one ui upgrades.
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Speaker 3:So first the galaxy ring 2, which tori just asked me about. Tori's like where's that galaxy ring 2? It was like all like the first ring was all the rage and then they were releasing all this stuff for the galaxy ring 2 and since we were talking earlier about you know, wanting to, or when people might want to upgrade the watch, like I mean, that seems to be like the primary accessory, to go with the accessory of the watch.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. And also, if you don't want to wear a smartwatch, it's the other way you could track your health without wearing a watch. So, uh, I've actually been wearing the galaxy ring more probably than my Samsung watch, cause I like to wear a mechanical watch a lot and I can wear the Ring and I can still get all my fitness information synced into Samsung Health and then I can just wear this Galaxy Watch if I want when I work out, because it's a little bit better at tracking some of the workouts. But Galaxy Ring 2 is likely not launching in 2025. It's likely going to launch in January 2026 along with the Galaxy S26 series. So if you're looking for a Ring 2, it's probably coming, still quite a ways away, about five months. Um, probably it'll be a deal like with the watches, where if you order s26, you'll be able to get like a ring for a pretty cheap price, like with the watch eight on the fold launch. If you bought a fold and a watch together or flip in a watch, you get like a 40 discount. So probably get a couple hundred hundred $150 off the Ring.
Speaker 1:I am excited about it. I mean there's been no concrete leaks about what they might do, but we had talked about a couple of ideas that I would really like to see. I'd really love to see increasing the gesture applicability of the Ring. It'd be really nice if the Ring could integrate with especially with first-party Samsung apps so I could just move my hand around to do various things. Um, now, it seems like it would be pretty easy to do. If you had your ring on an appropriate finger, you could easily use more gestures. They already have some gestures, but like pinch gestures and things like that, to like get rid of your alarm, swipe, you know, minimize your alarm, and stuff like that I know you were really wanting the payment I really want the payment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that was the other one, that one. I still don't know if it will happen this time, but I feel like gestures in the first party samsung apps like that should be a given. They have a lot of apps that they could integrate themselves. I mean, obviously I'd love to see it in third-party apps too, like if I could archive my email in gmail with a ring gesture. That would be nice, but I don't know if that will happen. The first iteration will probably be a lot of the first party apps like you could. Maybe what would really be cool actually, now they think about it especially well, I mean, you still won't be very precision, but if I could use my ring finger that I have galaxy ring on to jot down samsung notes in samsung notes using air gestures. So I'm gonna say get some milk and I just write it in the air with my finger and it appears on the notes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that'd be dope.
Speaker 1:I mean I would. I would say that would be a feature. People would be like that's pretty cool. Yeah, um, I might actually use that. That's a feature where I could actually see like if, because I mean especially if there's going to get rid of the S-Bin I mean if that happens, then like I don't even need to take the phone off the table, I can just do a note. I could do like some kind of pinch gesture or swipe to open Samsung Notes. Maybe I do a triple pinch, then I just write down something on my to-do list and then I do a triple pinch to like close the app and boom, I just took a note using my finger. That'd be cool.
Speaker 1:But the payments is something I'd really love to see. I just don't know. We talked about before the security aspect of that. I'm not sure how to integrate that, because you have to have authentication for the payment in some way. So you're either it's not going to be as seamless as you want, because unless you can make a gesture that's unique enough that you could use it as a payment thing, or it's tied to some kind of bio signature, like your heartbeat. But your heartbeat changes, so it's not really possible. There's probably some bio signature. Maybe they could figure out how to use. Otherwise you're gonna have to take your watch or your phone out to approve the payment on the ring and then that point messages.
Speaker 3:That defeats the purpose.
Speaker 1:I might as well use my phone or my watch, which I can already use the phone or the watch to make a payment. Samsung pays already on the watch. So the whole point would be that it's just a little bit faster because with the with my wrist, sometimes I have to like turn it awkwardly, yeah, whereas my ring it's a little my fingers a little more flexible, you know, it's a little more adaptable, just turn it however I want. Sometimes I have to lean up and be like, ah, my wrist hurts, but with your finger they can move a little bit differently, a little more malleable than your wrist. That's why I'd like to see it. I would also love it if they brought back MST We've talked about that before. I don't think it's ever coming back the magnetic stripe reading technology where you could pay at terminals that don't have NFC.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know that was just like magic back in the day, cause people would be like Jeff, sorry, we don't take Apple pay here and I'd be like boop. And they'd be like oh my God, well, how did that happen? Are you a wizard? Yeah, and I'd be like I'm not a wizard. I'm pretty sure I've said this before on the podcast, but I just love my memories of using it at places that I get targeted all the time. They'd be like we don't accept that here.
Speaker 3:I'd be like you do now Just pay for my stuff. See you guys later. Walk out, peace, peace.
Speaker 1:Got my receipt. People still have their jaws open. I'm just like I'll see you guys. Have a great night.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And that was that I know. And you might say, if you're listening to this well, jeff, we've heard that story a lot, but people, everybody has nfc. Now you would be wrong.
Speaker 2:That's false, because walmart still doesn't take nfc yeah, I know one of the largest retailers in the entire country right and you went the other day, yeah, yeah, oh, wait, you can't.
Speaker 3:And even now they uh, in the remodel Walmarts they have the terminals with the capability to use it.
Speaker 1:They just don't actually turn it on Because they want you to use Walmart Pay which is their thing.
Speaker 3:they make that no one wants and no one is ever going to use. I think I know two people who play for Walmart Plus yeah.
Speaker 1:Walmart Pay is not a. Thing. Walmart, yeah, no. We're not going to make Walmart pay a? Thing?
Speaker 3:like a mean girls.
Speaker 2:No like fetch.
Speaker 3:Yeah, walmart pay is never going to happen. No, just like fetch isn't going to happen, walmart's going to go and just burn book. That's right, you're going to my burn book.
Speaker 1:Every time I go to Walmart and I check out, it just don't accept NFC still, not just for your phone, but also if you have a tap to pay card. You can't use that either. You can't, you might cause. You might say, oh well, not that many people still use their phone. Well, one, a lot of people do, but two people who don't. They're using the NFC enabled cards. Now, because everyone pretty much does that, no one inserts their card anymore.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So every time I go to Walmart I have to insert my card. I'm like what is this 2016? You know, nobody got time for that. Nobody got time for that.
Speaker 3:Boop, boop, boop, and then you know you got to take it out, you got to take it out.
Speaker 1:It takes a lot of time, it does A lot of effort. When I could have just been like boop, I could have just been like boop, like a wizard, sort of like to see Don't take those as features that are coming, because we know absolutely nothing. It could, for all we know, be the exact same product. They just call it the Galaxy Ring 2.
Speaker 3:That's what I was going to ask and I know we're going to kind of go down the line of all their products or devices that they have now, but, like when we're looking at these accessories, so obviously you have to do a phone every year because you got to compete with the others, but like these, some of these accessories, like the ring, like I don't I mean as an average consumer like I don't see the need for it to be a yearly or every two year launch maybe, like maybe every two year.
Speaker 2:I don't think samsung sees the need to release a ring every year. Right now, I don't think so either.
Speaker 1:Because, one the main driving force for Samsung to release something every year is if Apple does it, because that's the only competition they care about and Apple doesn't have a ring yet. So when Apple has a ring, maybe they'll do it every year. That's just being honest, samsung doesn't care about what anybody else does, because they're bigger, as we've talked about many times they're bigger than everybody else except.
Speaker 3:Apple.
Speaker 1:So no one else is even really in their mind when they make a decision. They don't care about what, they don't care what Aura is doing. I mean I know Aura kind of Aura Ring kind of started the smart ring game for the most part and made it popular, but Aura is such a small company compared to Samsung.
Speaker 2:They don't give a damn what Aura's doing at all.
Speaker 1:They're not going to base their product cycle and cadence on Aura. They only base their product cycle and cadence on if Apple has direct competition, which is exactly why everyone should be. Who likes foldables should be glad, because next year when Apple releases a foldable, Samsung will kick their game up about 10 notches. That's exactly why the Fold 7 is such a beast, because they know next year Apple is finally going to enter the chat and they don't want to have some weak looking garbage foldable like the Fold 6. No offense to anybody who has one, but it looks awful compared to the other Folds on the market. It's too thick and narrow cover screen.
Speaker 3:I would say definitely going into next year, with Apple releasing theirs potentially. I think the Fold 7 is a really good mark impression and they still got one more release before Apple releases theirs.
Speaker 1:Oh true, yeah, Because the Fold 8 will come out in July and the new Foldable won't come out until September. So Samsung is, I will say. People always say Apple invents the game category. I don't, this is a prediction. I don't think it's going to be Not with game on the category. I don't, this is a prediction, I don't think it's not affordable. I don't think it'll be so easy on the foldable yeah, no, there's a lot of.
Speaker 1:It's such a time like since the first one, so now like that's a lot of ground for apple to actually great point, because when they really, when apple released a big phone, right like samsung released the note, and I think it was like four years later, apple released the iPhone 6 and the 6 Plus or whatever. They released the big versions of the iPhone. Well, this hasn't been four years. This is going to have been now seven and a half years since.
Speaker 1:Samsung released the first Fold, so you've given Samsung almost twice as long of a head start. The hardware and the challenges involved in foldables and the software together, I just think it's going to be difficult. I don't think that first iPhone Fold is going to be good. Now, hey, that doesn't mean don't quote me as saying it won't sell well because Apple fans will spy whatever Apple tells them to.
Speaker 1:They'll just go out and buy it. They'll be Apple will be like yeah, the three inch bezel is a huge selling feature. Yeah, it's amazing. Look how big that bezel is on the front. Look how thick it is. It's so thick so you can use it as a weapon in case someone tries to steal it from you. Hit them over the head with it. It's heavy like a brick. They'll be like oh wow, that's amazing, only $3,500. Where do I buy it? They're like well, we only made about 5,000 of them. So it shows us back ordered on the apple store so we can make people believe it's really popular, even though it's not yeah they're sold out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, until december, and then you can give us 3500 for one. Yeah, and use a phone and use a phone that has three inch bezels and it's about three inches thick looks like a bit heavier than a macbook but it folds.
Speaker 1:Uh, anyway, I don't think the iphone fold is going to be that great and the Fold 8 has still got a chance to even impress more. Next year We'll see what Samsung does, but I mean that's going to be interesting. I mean I think Apple's going to be in a little trouble on the Fold. That's just my prediction. I also think the iPhone 17 Air, which is coming out next month, is not as good as the S25 edge. It's got a much smaller battery life on the ultra thin and that's going to kill them on it, because the I just bought.
Speaker 3:Every iphone user I know like all their main concern is the camera camera and the battery and people are like well, ios optimized the battery.
Speaker 1:Well, so far, ios 26, the battery life hasn't been that good. I know it's a beta, but but I mean it's got a very small battery. I think it's less than 3000 milliamps. I don't know, man. I don't know if Apple's software optimization can save the battery when the battery cell is that small. If they do, I'll give them their props on that one. But I still think the S25 Edge looks like a nicer piece. We'll see. Of course, I'll have the iPhones next month to. We'll do some podcast thoughts on them, because they are the main competition. Yeah, anyway, let's run down the next product.
Speaker 3:The next product is the um trifold the galaxy trifold, which is a phone, but kind of a phone plus a tablet.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, at that point, yeah and so supposedly it's going to release later in 2025, but likely not in the United States. Likely it's going to release in Korea and China only, which could make it very tricky on me, because last year I imported the Z Fold Special Edition from Korea and everyone was super psyched about that. They're like Jeff, thanks for doing it, and I got lots of views on YouTube. It's cool, it's great. But that was expensive. It cost me $3,500.
Speaker 1:This year, thanks to our president here in the United States making America great again. Um, if I imported from Korea that's potential I might have to pay more than $5,000 to import a trifold, because the price will probably be around 3000. And then, if I pay a 40% tariff plus some other regular customs duties, it's probably going to get close to 5K. I don't know, man, I've got to think about that. I'm not sure what. I don't know. I'm just curious what do you think about? I mean, obviously it's expensive, but what do you think about the appetite for consumer interest in the trifle that goes from a regular slab phone to a small tablet to a big tablet? Do you think people have interest in that?
Speaker 3:So I think that man, obviously, obviously, it's going to have everyone's attention, let's start there is going to have everyone's attention, let's start there. That price range though I mean you're looking at maybe the top 10% of people that can afford that. Average consumers are not going to be buying that, but I will say that's definitely going to make a statement whenever they do release it, just only because we've never seen anything like that in the US.
Speaker 1:They'll be like Leonardo DiCaprio. You have my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
Speaker 3:Yes, now you have my attention Very suave, and it's going to go back to when Samsung was. I mean like right, when the Fold first came out. It's going to be the new luxury phone Now. Do you think when the Trifold comes out will the Fold start to go down in price? Do you think?
Speaker 1:I do think so. Yeah, you think so. I think they'll start.
Speaker 3:I hope so.
Speaker 1:Well, once it comes mainstream, like to all regions, yeah. This first year? I don't know, because it's going to be exclusive.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And also, too, when Apple releases theirs. Well, there was going to be that competition. Well, you know, they're not going to release a trifold to like 2035. Yeah, oh yeah, no, you mean the regular foldable yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's on for a regular foldable. I think once apple releases theirs, like now, there's this competition because that you can kind of get simpson can kind of get away a little bit now, because they're the only ones that's doing it and they were trying to do that up until this year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, last year. They're like let's just put out the same phone three years in a row and see if anybody I mean what's the competition like?
Speaker 3:there's nothing to drive them to change. But once apple enters, I mean now samsung really has to think about how do I get these phones out to more consumers, because we already know that a bunch of apple users have probably been waiting patiently for a fold from apple because they don't want to buy samsung. And now samsung really is going to have to push. How do I get more of these foldable out there and then I can still keep my luxury item as the trifold right, because people are niche people are still gonna buy those, but I think they're gonna it to.
Speaker 3:To keep everything balanced, let the trifold be that top tier. Start bringing down those foldable prices so average consumers can get last year, in may of 2024, the fold engineers at samsung.
Speaker 1:They were like guys. I just got off the phone with TM Rowe. He told me that we were supposed to release a Z Fold 6 in two months. And they're like, oh damn, did anyone make one? I'm like no, Maybe we just take the Z Fold 5 from last year, change the colors, change the 5 to a 6, maybe raise the price. Just just pushed out the door yeah, and they're like no, that will never work.
Speaker 1:And then they did it and tm row is like man, this is amazing huge profit margins. We just reused the phone from last year and genius, and they still sold millions of them yep, genius, but yeah, I mean, samsung's not gonna be able to get away with that anymore, and thankfully they didn't do that this year. I mean, this phone is truly impressive.
Speaker 1:But it's a damn shame for people who bought the Fold 6 last year, who obviously not everybody can afford to get a phone every year. I mean, probably a lot of people who bought a Fold can't afford to upgrade year over year because it's an expensive phone in the first place.
Speaker 3:But it does suck. I feel we can pretty much now expect. I mean, if, like, the trifold is going to be probably released in like Asian markets first, I as an average consumer just consumers in general we can probably just start expecting to. You know, because, again, like these are costly phones, these aren't like phones I can just go out and just up and buy without a second thought. You know, I think we should start looking towards those special launches because more than likely we're going to get that in the coming year or so. And so to kind of just gauge, like you know, what should I be spending my money on? I think we should start looking at those, those particular launches.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean the trifold is not going to be the second phone that Kevin Gates is using. No, he has two phones he has one for the plug and one for the dough. Yeah, but definitely the second one is not the Tri-Fold. No, it's like I can't be using that one. I can't be using a $3,500 phone for the plug.
Speaker 3:No, not for that one.
Speaker 1:You just got to burn your phone for that. Yep, you know, but I can't decide if I want to port it. I mean, I kind of want to because you know. Then what I'll do is I'll just you know, when I go to Cheesecake Factory, because the first time I got the fold I went to Cheesecake Factory and I whipped out my fold and the waitress they're like calling everyone over, like have ever seen this before. This time what I'll do is I'll go there and I'll be like, hey, you guys have any menus and I'll be like wait, I brought my own.
Speaker 3:I'll just unfold it and go to the website and pull up the menu and just turn it vertically and be like oh, never mind I have a menu right here yes, perfect size, same size as the regular menu. Guys, you heard it here first. Yeah, there we go you know just.
Speaker 1:But I mean, if I pay $5,000 for it, I have to do it. You have to get a little flex out of it if you're going to spend that much money.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you do.
Speaker 1:I mean I'll have to do a ton of work because I'll have to try to pay for that content. Because I'm not going to buy it if I don't think I can make money doing this. But 5K is a huge amount of money. I have to be sure I can make that back off the content, which means if I get it.
Speaker 3:But you definitely will. I think I will if.
Speaker 1:I make enough videos, but I have to think of like a good five videos. I like to think of it as like I need to break it up into a certain number of videos. I need to make an average of this amount per video. So that's five videos at a thousand dollars in AdSense per video, because I like to make the actual cost of the phone back just off the YouTube AdSense, not affiliates or anything else, not sponsorships, which I could probably get too, because you know you're taking a big risk.
Speaker 1:Other people are like well, you wouldn't just, would you buy it for $5,000 if you didn't think you could get the money back? Of course you wouldn't. You'd be like, damn, my wife would kill me. Well, me too I'm not going to buy for $5,000 if I don't think it's a smart business decision. But the special edition, I thought it was because I was able to get it before anybody else. That's always important. I have a contact at a retailer in Korea. If they tell me hey, jeff, I can get it for you early, then that will change my opinion. Just like with the full special edition.
Speaker 1:I'd be willing to spend a decent amount of money if I could be number one, because that changes a lot of things. I'm guaranteed to get a massive amount of ad revenue. I ended up getting about twice what I paid for the Fold Special Edition just from ad revenue, but that's because I was the first person to ever post a video on YouTube about it. That changes the entire game. Even if you're second, you're going to probably lose money then. That doesn't. You're gonna probably lose money then. That's. That's how critical the difference between having the first unboxing and camera comparisons and having the second one is when it comes to youtube. Unless you're someone huge like if you're mkbc, it doesn't matter, everyone watches your stuff. But if you're in the 200 000 to 500 000 subscriber range, the difference between being first and second is probably 5 000 plus dollars of.
Speaker 1:So I don't know if I'll import it. I'm undecided. It all depends on when it comes out, what I need to be doing at that time in terms of other obligations that I have for the business and can I get it super early from that same Korean retailer who got me my full special edition. They've been pretty good over the years. I bought a lot of phones from them probably 30 phones, because back in the day I used to import phones from Korea so I could get them early. When I used to, I didn't get reviewed and it's back in the day, so I would always pay them extra money to get phones from Korea, cause they would come out in Korea first, like back with the S5, s6, s7. So I've been buying phones from this retailer forever. So of course, when you build up a history with someone, they're willing to, you know, slide to slide you a little preferential treatment if you spend a lot of money with them. So maybe I'll be able to get it early and see and I'd probably be willing to do it if I could do that.
Speaker 1:What else? The Galaxy XR controller. Let's talk about that because that's another piece of hardware that's coming out in addition to the trifold and the ring. Let me actually bring this up here. This is supposed to be coming out relatively soon. We've already seen Google and Samsung preview this twice and it just got FCC approval today. The FCC certification hence Samsung XR headset may launch globally soon Runs the Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 Plus Gen 2 chipset. They already teased it twice with Google. They didn't unveil it at Unpacked in July. A lot of people thought that the Fold event they were going to have. I feel like that would have been the place to do it.
Speaker 3:That would have been the place that honestly would have been the place to do it, but that event was so packed.
Speaker 1:I think that's why they didn't do it, because they already had Fold 7,.
Speaker 3:But at least to tease it they should have done another teaser. You're going to see again. This type of device is just a hard sell. I mean, when I go to Target and Walmart I still see a bunch of VR headsets that are just not used, never touched.
Speaker 1:And actually, now that I think about it, yeah, I think this will probably launch in the next month. I was just about to say something that I wasn't supposed to say.
Speaker 1:I got some information from some contacts who told me that some things might be happening soon. I think this is probably what's going to happen soon. So the US model number showed up in the FCC and we originally heard that the device might launch in Korea on October 13th. So maybe they're going to have a US launch simultaneously to that, because that's two months away and usually when Samsung starts talking to media about upcoming events it's a couple months ahead of time. Now that I'm saying I know anything Of course I don't.
Speaker 2:Why would I?
Speaker 1:I wouldn't reveal secret information on this podcast, but it's going to have impressive pixel density, around 3,800 PPI Sony's flagship OLED displays and it's going to be very expensive. It's rumored to cost between $2,000 and $3,000, which is still likely. I think it's going to be closer to the middle of that or the lower end, probably to 1999 to 2499, still a thousand to 1500 less than Apple's headset. Yeah, so you know, that's good, I think, but still very expensive. As you said before, when we talked about this device before we went on the break from the podcast, they kind of needed to bring it in a little bit cheaper to get people to adopt it. Mass market, like I feel like you were right, like they should have went with a headset that was more like the meta headsets which are on the $400, $300, $400, $500 price range Like that's more like where people can buy it.
Speaker 3:You like some demos and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I feel like you got to get this in people's hands. Yeah, put out a really good and it also needs to be something people can buy to do recreational activities. Yeah, like the average person is not dropping 2500 just to do something for fun. No, like people spend 2500 on a laptop if they need one for their job because that's a tool for them to make money during the living. That's a different story and, as much as I hate to say it, apple's headset has convinced me. I know some people or youtubers disagree, some influencers has convinced me that these headsets are not going to be great productivity tools. I tried one on that a friend had like this right now, anyway, they're not.
Speaker 1:Like. I still rather use my macbook on my two external displays that I have here at the office. I do not want to replace it with the headset, and so that's a really tough sell when you're someone like hey, yeah, I'd like to buy one of these. They look really cool, I'm going to play, just play some games on it. You know, maybe I'll watch some movies. And how much is it? $2,500. No, thank you. I could just buy a TV plus a PlayStation five plus an Xbox plus a switch for $2,500. You can go find a really good TV during when this have sales, like 75 inch for like a thousand and you could buy all three gaming systems. You could probably two gaming systems and a nice gaming PC hard, you know, a nice tower. Why am I going to spend $2,500 on this Like?
Speaker 3:you've got to convince me. Yeah, and they're like oh well, you know you can.
Speaker 1:You can pretend that you're on vacation in the Swiss Alps. I could just go to the Swiss Alps $2,500.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah. With that money I might as well just be there, I just go on vacation.
Speaker 1:I don't want to pretend that I'm in the Swiss Alps, not that much. Yeah, I think if it's going to be this price point, there has to be a reason for people to actually use this as part of their productivity, in addition to like it has to help them make some money.
Speaker 3:In addition to being fun. It can't just be fun for 2500 not to sell volume they're gonna need and we talked about this before like having um, like partner up with best buy and like really get on the marketing. Um, have some demo stations up in like best Buy, like got to get in people's hands and like, yeah, let people see it.
Speaker 1:I think games are the really big selling point. No, yeah, I think so too, xr and VR headsets, because, again, I mean, we harped on it last time. I know it was several months ago. We talked about like I'm not wearing this in Starbucks or the library or some restaurant Like you could just wear this. Instead, take your laptop, you could wear this and get your work done. Starbucks I'm not doing that man?
Speaker 3:no, I like to have an awareness of my surroundings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, and you can it- will go clear.
Speaker 3:You can see, okay, but then people think you're creeping on them.
Speaker 1:Yes, you know like the cashier at harkins, if you were wearing it at harkins. Yes, you might think that you're taking photos of her through your vr headset or something you know what I mean yeah, you know what I'm saying, tori no just hypothetically yes if that were a case, or at starbucks? Yeah, because why would you be wearing the headset at harkins? They probably outlawed them anyway yeah, I know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they don't want you wearing that during the movie. No recording recording.
Speaker 1:Recording the movie or something like that. They want that. But yeah, I mean, I'm not wearing this out in public right now. They're too heavy, they're too bulky. I mean the Samsung one looks a little bit better. But I think the main selling point of this is entertainment right now Gaming, watching movies, and they're great for that. But average person $2,500 is a very tough sell. The metal one way better sell for the purposes for which these are best suited at the time being. Um, I think it'd be better to do a lower price one than later. Do galaxy xr ultra headset, once you've perfected it and maybe you also have like a lighter version that maybe looks better, that maybe does have productivity use cases. Yeah, then you could raise the price for that one. But but I think you want to sell volume when you have a new product category and I don't think they're going to be able to massively sell volume.
Speaker 1:But you know, hey, Tori and I could be wrong.
Speaker 2:We're probably not, but you know we could.
Speaker 1:The last product, big flagship product coming up, which should be in the next couple months as well next month or October, next month or two is they've got the galaxy S 25 F, e. I don't really have a lot to say about that because it's basically like it's just a mid range phone that probably doesn't need to exist anymore. It's it's a phone that a lot of people buy, but I don't I still don't know why it exists.
Speaker 3:My girlfriend's uncle like. I still don't know why it exists.
Speaker 1:My girlfriend's uncle. He loves that the FE. Yeah, I don't know why people love the FE, but they do.
Speaker 3:I don't know why they like it.
Speaker 1:Maybe is it because he's an older gentleman and so maybe just the simplicity I mean it's definitely a decent value, but it's not that much cheaper than the base model S phone and it releases eight months after the regular s25 lineup. I mean, it's slightly bigger screen size but it's not as high resolution. There's a lot of weird trade-offs. Plus, the name is weird. Fe stands for fan edition yeah how's it a fan edition when it's got worst resolution?
Speaker 3:I don't. I don't understand anything. I'm just a fan. Just a fan. I just want to have something. I'm just a fan, I just like giving.
Speaker 1:Samsung money for no reason for a phone that shouldn't exist.
Speaker 3:Why not?
Speaker 1:I just go here, I just want a phone that says Samsung on it, Maybe some pastel colors.
Speaker 3:For some reason they slap those on the FEC, I mean, which are some cool, interesting colors.
Speaker 1:But I think they do it so people know you don't have the regular.
Speaker 3:S25.
Speaker 1:Oh true, yeah, they're like here just have some peasant pastel colors and then keep it moving. But there are interesting colors. They probably should put some of those on the regular S line.
Speaker 3:No, I think so too. I think we need more fun colors.
Speaker 1:I would like to get some fun colors. There are a couple of fun colors on this one, I think you know none of it. Nothing about the FE makes any sense to me. It's just all very confusing. I have the S24 FE from last year and I don't I've honestly not turned it on in like the last two months. I turn it on occasionally when there's a decent software update we need to cover. It's just a very confusing phone. Every time I take it to look at it and I go into a confused state.
Speaker 1:I can't get any work done because I think about how confusing it is as a product. So you know I don't want to. I got a lot going on, I don't want to confuse myself too much, but but I really don't understand this particular product. So we'll see though, we will. Obviously we'll cover it. We leaked the first renders of it with on leaks, but it looks very similar to last year's s24 iv, so it's not really that super exciting, but we did have the first renders at Samiguru. We had that exclusive.
Speaker 3:Hashtag exclusive Hashtag Samiguru.
Speaker 1:And then the other lineup coming out is the Tab S11 and the S11 Ultra, and again not something that excites me. That's why I waited until the end to talk about it, because this is the least exciting of all these things. The last like four Samsung Tab Ultras have all looked very similar, and I don't think there's a massive change this time either. I mean, just keep it steady. They're just like we got to put a tablet out there.
Speaker 1:The people want a tablet, just change the number, Maybe change the processor? For no reason. Last year they switched to a MediaTek, which I think they did that to save themselves money. They're like let's just bump up our profit margins, give the people a slightly worse processor. Sway looks the same. They'll buy it, no one will notice, just charge $1,400 for it, they're like but wait, isn't that more expensive than our laptops?
Speaker 2:Ah, don't like. I love samsung. I gotta have it all. Yeah, gotta catch them all, just like pokemon gotta catch them all.
Speaker 1:Samsung galaxy items yeah, um, they're like I gotta have the watch, the ring, the phone, tablet the galaxy book the buds.
Speaker 3:I need it all I like it and all the first party cases yeah they're like cold stone like it love it, gotta have it.
Speaker 1:put that ice cream in my cup, I gotta have it. I'm like a crack fiend right now I'm fiending for the ice cream, but anyway, I don't know. I mean the Tab S11, I'm sorry, there's just nothing that exciting. The only thing that's exciting about me, to me, is they finally put the base model last year. Remember they, it was also super confusing. They only did a plus and an ultra. So this year they're not doing a plus and they're just doing the Tab.
Speaker 3:S11. Okay, it's just like. Like, it's just all over the place.
Speaker 1:It's like they fragment their lineup just to confuse people.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:People get going to Best Buy, They'll be like let me get the Tab S11 Plus. And the guy's like it doesn't exist.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sorry, last year.
Speaker 1:Like, well, they don't have that one this year? Last year they didn't have a Tab S10, so now they have the Tab S11 to make up for not having the Tab S10. But they took away the Tab S11 Plus because they had a Tab S10 Plus and they're like, well, what's the difference between them? Well, nothing really, Just the numbers.
Speaker 2:And they raised the price by $100.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I go. Well, I'll take the Tab S9 then, because it's on sale for $500 off. That's what I would do. Anyway we'll definitely have reviews of all those things, but I'm just being honest. I give you some honest opinions about Samsung, even though I love them.
Speaker 1:You keep it real I don't think the S25, fe or Tab S11 launches are interesting, very interesting at all. I probably would get a Tab S11 myself just because I like the size. I do not like the size of the Plus or the Ultra as a usable daily tablet because they're just too damn big. I mean, I have a Tab S10 Ultra but it sits on my desk and I just use it to watch media and sometimes multitask with my social accounts, but I can't use it for general tablet reading and stuff like that games. I use my iPad for that because it's a more reasonable size. They should make the base model every year because I think that's the most reusable tablet size that there is. Um, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1:The galaxy book 6 series, which is their laptop series. I am excited for that, but that's probably not coming out until, I'm guessing, january, along with the s line. They don't always launch the galaxy books along with like a big unpacked event. Sometimes they're launched on their own. Yeah, this is like a media announcement, but those are looking exciting. I mean samsung's laptops. They've really been making progress there. For some reason, they just like decided to stop trying with tablets.
Speaker 3:It's like ah, apple beat us there you know, you got like, you got us on that one they're like we can't be spending too much more money on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, apple's got like 90 percent of the worldwide tablet market share. Like it's time to just keep doing the bare minimum there. But with laptops they've started gaining market share in the Windows side and they've brought out some good laptops the Galaxy Book 4 Edge last year, galaxy Book 5 Pro 360. I have both of those and I use them a lot. They're very good the efficiency, the battery. I mean.
Speaker 1:If it wasn't for the fact that they just their battery life still isn't quite as good as the MacBook, I would consider leaving my MacBook Pro to use a Galaxy Book as my daily driver, because they work so well with my Galaxy phones Quick share and all that stuff. Like you've got, you can basically access your Galaxy phone from your Galaxy Book. You can mirror it so you can open all your phone apps on your computer. That's awesome. I can't do that on my MacBook because, um, because obviously I don't use an iphone. But I mean, yeah, I mean I would consider using the galaxy book because it is such a nice piece. I would actually say, tori, if you, when you get ready to look for a new laptop whenever you do, since you use so much samsung stuff. Consider a galaxy book, because they have some nice.
Speaker 1:They have some nice pieces, I mean they and they usually have some pretty good deals too, like on the trade inside-in side. We love the deals you trade in an old Windows laptop. I think that's the one place where they should. If they wanted to get a lot of market share in laptops, they should bump up the trade-in even more, because right now they'll give you like $500 for your old Windows laptop. If they give you like $800 or $1,000, like they do for the phone trade-ins, people will be like I'm buying one today why not?
Speaker 3:I already use a.
Speaker 1:Galaxy phone. Why not have a Galaxy laptop? Because I can sync all my stuff and use my phone screen right there on my laptop, get all my messages from my Galaxy phone on there. You can even use your phone as like a second screen. You can get cross-device apps and everything.
Speaker 3:Oh wow, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:You can use the S Pen from your phone to takeode on your laptop. There's all kinds of cool stuff you can do with Samsung continuity services. So yeah, I mean I would say, if you continue to use Galaxy, whenever you do need another laptop, it's worth looking at. Maybe they'll increase the trade-ins if they really want to get serious about taking Windows Share from Lenovo and some of these other companies.
Speaker 1:They're doing a lot of things right in that area, so I'm just breaking down the products today. Samsung, you guys are really crapping the bed on the tablets. The S25 FE is basically e-waste. It's time to delete that series.
Speaker 2:I don't think we need it, we don't need it anymore.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's why they're changing the base model S25 to S25 Pro. Then people won't be able to say the FE is like not needed anymore. It's like, oh well, that's the fan edition and you know it's for fans.
Speaker 3:Whatever that means, yeah, whatever that means.
Speaker 1:Whatever the hell that means. Anyway, I think that's about it for today. Had a good time. We talked about a lot of fun stuff today.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we did.
Speaker 1:We caught up mostly on all the big stories, I think One UI8. We've covered all the coming hardware launches, went through the S26 series in detail. Next week we'll be back covering smaller news stories. I got a lot of small ones lined up to talk about that. I want to talk about various app updates and things that have happened in the community. Anything else to add, tori, though, before we get out of here? No.
Speaker 3:I think it was good Time to go grab that Whataburger shake for you. Oh, yes, I will be getting that.
Speaker 1:Eye.