SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
Galaxy Z Fold Special Edition + Other Samsung Stuff You Can't Have
Curious about Samsung’s latest tech innovations? We’re pulling back the curtain on the exclusive Z Fold launch, a device that’s as elusive as it is exciting, available only in Korea and China. Dive into the world of Samsung Capture updates, where stage rollouts test our patience, and discover how Samsung Wallet's new cash transfer feature could change the game for mobile payments globally. We also unravel the story behind the One UI 7 beta update, addressing the colorful icon designs that stirred up quite the feedback storm among users. Our discussion touches on everything from Samsung's strategic moves in tech support to how their approach compares to Apple’s, making it an episode packed with insights and opinions.
For those navigating the tech jungle, we chew over the Samsung Galaxy Book 5 Pro 360 and its performance, weighing its pros against devices like the MacBook Pro. Not stopping there, we cover everything from smartphone longevity and maintenance to the infamous oleophobic coating issue on Samsung phones. With our mix of tech talk, travel tales, and personal experiences, we aim to keep you informed and entertained. So, whether you're keen on the latest gadgets or just tuning in for some hearty laughs over misadventures, this episode has something for everyone. Join us for a journey through weather, travel, and tech that promises to keep you on your toes.
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Well, welcome back everybody. This is episode number 17 of the Sammy Guru podcast. My name is Jeff Springer and with me, as always, my co-host, torrey Torrey, say hi, hey, how's it going? And it is. It's actually 75 degrees today in Phoenix.
Speaker 2:It is quite nice. It is A little bit of rain. Did you get any? Yeah, we got a little in Peoria.
Speaker 1:I woke up this morning and I thought I had teleported to like a different city and state.
Speaker 1:I was like what is going on? I was like this can't be Phoenix, because it's not 90 degrees at 8 am. It was like when I went outside this morning, it was like 65. When we took Jonathan to school at 7 am I was like, wow, this is crazy. You know, you guys got to understand, like if you don't live in Arizona. We had a stretch of like six months where it wasn't below 110 any of those days, like a consecutive like five or six-month streak from like May to like October, early October, I think it even started in April to be honest, it might have been late April, it was 100 degrees.
Speaker 2:It's just been straight ever since.
Speaker 1:So, you know, we got like a little break where it dipped below 100 right before I went to STC, but then they're like oh, just kidding, summer's not over. And it was back up to like 110 for like three days and then it stayed above 100. And then like the upper 90s the last few weeks and now, finally, it's supposed to go back up to 90, though early next week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I saw.
Speaker 1:It's not all over yet. Hopefully, once October is over, we'll have five months of like 70s and 80s. Usually, november, december, january, february and March are pretty safe for like being in the 70s to 80s range, so hopefully that's the case and all these clothing companies that I like. They send me marketing emails. Like it's time to buy your hoodie.
Speaker 2:I'm like slow down man. I don't need a hoodie for quite a while longer, probably like the end of November I'll need a hoodie.
Speaker 1:I don't even need a hoodie really at the beginning of November, because when it's 70 degrees I don't really feel like I need one. But, like in the 60s, I'll take a small hoodie.
Speaker 2:No, for sure.
Speaker 1:How's your week been, Torrey?
Speaker 2:Well, you know it's my first week back. We had fall break. The previous week Some school districts even had two weeks off, which is I am pretty jelly of. But yeah, no, first week back and it's been a little busy. But you know, today they had a test, so we had to chill for like a little bit. What was the test on? They did it on proofs triangle congruency proofs Awesome. I like a little geometry proof right now. I know, I know I was getting pretty excited.
Speaker 1:But yeah, you actually had the same fall break as Jonathan. Last week, while Nicole and I were gone, jonathan had the week off, so my mother-in-law watched the kids. Last week, nicole and I, we went to Vegas from Thursday through Sunday. The main purpose of going was for the Steelers versus Raiders game. Of course, we were just trying to relax. The rest of the time we were there, I had a four-night stay offer at Aria. We go to Vegas a lot, lot and we gamble a lot, so you get free rooms, you get free stuff. I didn't pay for the tickets either. My host, my casino host, gave us free tickets to the game. So that's I mean they weren't free. I lost enough money to have bought the tickets for sure while I was there.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the whole model right of getting perks from the casino, but they do give us a lot of really nice stuff. The rooms we get are really nice, the tickets, we get some nice perks. It probably evens out in the end. We don't spend so much more than the value of the perks, so it probably is pretty close. I would imagine Some people go crazy and then the perks aren't worth it.
Speaker 1:We try to keep it yeah exactly, but we had fun and the Steelers won the game against the Raiders, so that was certainly pretty exciting. So that's what I was up to. I took two full days off, pretty much. So, if you guys noticed, last week, saturday and Sunday there was not any content really on YouTube. I didn't post a video for two days, kind of took two days off fully, which I haven't done in a long time, but sometimes it's necessary to kind of keep things going, which I haven't done in a long time, but sometimes it's necessary to keep things going. So this week a little bit more of a standard show because we had Max Weinbach on as guest, the last one Before that I had just come back from SDC and we threw a show together like 45 minutes after I got off the plane.
Speaker 1:So I just basically told my experience at SDC because I hadn't prepared any kind of show notes or anything. But this week we have a little more standard show. I have some news to talk about. I have some hardware which I actually have right here. Actually, today I'm using the Galaxy Books 5 Pro 360 as my laptop, and then I have the Galaxy S24 FE in blue here and then way over here to the side, right here, we have this guy. He's the Tab.
Speaker 2:S10 Ultra. That's a cool stand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just have my Twitter feed here for questions, cool, so I'll talk about that in the second half of the show. I've been using the Tab S10 Ultra. I got it right after I got back from SDC, because Samsung can never ship me anything that I order on time, so it was supposed to arrive before I left, but of course they don't ever. They wouldn't give me review units for years and then they won't even ship the stuff I purchase on time.
Speaker 2:What's going on around here?
Speaker 1:Anyway, let's get started with some news. So the first piece of news here that I have listed is, uh, pretty exciting for most people. We have the gift capture feature returned to samsung phones this week. Uh, we talked about this when it was removed, um with one ui 6.1.1. This happened back in july, actually, when the foldables came out, we discovered that there was no longer GIF capture in Smart Select. And we talk about this.
Speaker 1:Show. You like the GIF capture, right, tori? I do. You use it quite a lot. So if you haven't seen it yet I know some people might not have seen it yet you can go to our article. I'll drop it in the show notes and find the version number. Go to our article. I'll drop it in the show notes and find the version number, but the version number is 5.8.56.4. It is an update to Samsung Capture, which is the name of the update, the name of the app that controls Smart Select. It is a stage rollout, but it looks like today it's rolling out more widely to everybody. I got it yesterday, which was the 17th, and it hadn't rolled out to many people. I got lucky. I was able to make a video early. Usually I'm not lucky and I get it late. Samsung does a stage rollout, which means you don't know when you're going to get it. Some people get it like a little people at a time.
Speaker 2:They trickle it out like a slow trickle, like a faucet that's leaking and then not like a big stream of water.
Speaker 1:They just a little bit at a time. So it's frustrating because you know if you're waiting on an update that you really want, it could take you a long time. Someone else might have it and you don't have it. It's just the way it goes. Also, samsung Capture is not an application. This is kind of weird and a couple of people asked me about this on my video. I was going to put this in the Q&A but since it's relevant to this, we'll just go ahead and talk about it.
Speaker 1:Some Samsung apps are not searchable in the Galaxy Store Very weird. So certain Samsung apps on your phone and they're not just system apps, some of them are just ones that control specific features, like Samsung Capture, which controls Smart Select. If you don't have an update for it, you cannot go to the Galaxy Store and search for it. So, like right here on the S24 FE, you know, if I go in here and I try to search for Samsung Capture, you won't find it unless there's an update. So let's try to do it right now and I can show you what it shows if you actually search for it. If you search for Samsung Capture, see nothing it brings up Smart Switch.
Speaker 1:Samsung Mobile, all these other Samsung apps, but it doesn't tell you that Samsung Capture exists. But once you have an update it'll be there in the update section.
Speaker 1:So a lot of people are like yeah, it's very strange and honestly, people are asking me do I know why Samsung hides some of these applications from the search view in the galaxy store? I have absolutely no idea. It's very strange. It is certain system apps and then other ones that control small features, like all the good luck apps you can pretty much search, but the ones that control certain features you may not be able to. So if you don't have the update yet and you're kind of looking in the Galaxy Store and you don't see the update, then it doesn't mean that you don't have Smart Capture. Some people are saying, oh well, I don't have this app at all. That's not what it means. It just means that you can't search for the app. You do have it and once it gets updates it'll be under the Update tab.
Speaker 1:So there's actually four new features here. They brought back the GIF capture. They brought the pin feature back to the main menu. So basically, when you crop an image or you create a GIF using Smart Capture or using Smart Select, you can now pin that thing right to your screen so it stays there. It's like if you crop a little image or you make a gif, it'll stay there while you browse around other stuff that's now like front and center. It used to be hidden behind another menu, so that's no longer the case.
Speaker 1:The third one is you can now drag the selected area to adjust the position so that it's easier to find what it is you're looking for. Remember this new version of Smart Select? It basically uses AI to determine what it is you want, and people didn't like that either, because it wouldn't let them force select like an area they wanted. It was like whatever AI thinks is best for you is like what you get, and people were upset about that, which I understand. So now you can actually like drag the area and you can modify the area that AI wanted. So that's another improvement they made, and then they also made it. So now you can just touch on an area instead of drawing around it, and AI will try to select it based on just a touch instead of a circle or whatever you do with your finger around an area.
Speaker 1:Yeah, some type of gesture. Yeah, so I mean, this is nice, they obviously listen. There are a couple issues here still that I found when I was doing the video on it, and there's a video on my channel if you want to go watch it and see how the new version works. One if you're using YouTube to watch a video and you try to create a GIF using this feature, if you have a video playing and you open the new Smart Select, it automatically minimizes the video to the pop-up view, which makes it very tiny in the bottom right corner. So the GIF you make is not going to be good because it's a tiny little piece. You can't keep it in the default YouTube view. In order to get the default YouTube view, you have to first pause the video, open the GIF capture feature in SmartSelect and then, once you open the GIF capture feature and it's open with the menu, the record button is there. Then you can press play on the video, then press record on SmartSelect. But because the video is already playing, you might miss part of the thing you wanted to record because you have to press the record button after. So that's not really great. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think this has to do with the way they're implementing Smart Select now Instead of you know. Before, when it lived as its own app, it was able to basically draw over and not force that pop-up view. But the way they're implementing it now is like an extension of the Edge panel. It's not really its own app anymore in some sense, and I want to dig into this further with some people who are developers. So next week I might try to have an article or a video on Sammy Guru and talk to people who know a little more about this than I do.
Speaker 1:But I'm pretty sure this is not just a problem on Google's side. This is a problem on google's side. This is a problem samsung and google. Right, they they google the way they implement the pop-up view and the way samsung is implementing smart select. They don't play nice together and so it's forcing the window to be minimized to a pop-up view in youtube if you try to make uh, something with smart select when you have a video playing. So if you wanted the exact smart Select we had four months ago, it's not really back fully, because before the old Smart Select worked fine. If you had YouTube video open and you open Smart Select, it didn't require you to close that video. There was really no issue utilizing that, so yeah, but otherwise some of the other improvements are good. I'm sure they'll take more feedback into consideration. With this, I think the positive thing is Samsung does take feedback, whereas a lot of other manufacturers Apple for instance they don't really care what their users say, they just tell you what you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just tell you what it is that you need and they're like you're going to do whatever we think is best for you. At least Samsung, they read the feedback. Obviously, people complained a lot about it Starting in July, when this rolled out three months, they fixed it and got a fix. Apple does not respond in real time to their users' complaints. They couldn't care less about that. So it is definitely not the same situation with Samsung, and so we appreciate that. So are you glad Smart Select is back here, tori?
Speaker 2:I am Just a few thoughts. I was actually kind of thinking I like everything with it being back along with the updates and stuff, but it just kind of seems like, if you really don't know which is, you know, I think everything that we have the wonderful Sammy Guru here to help us navigate throughout this. But I just feel like user, you know, usability-wise and I know we talked about this before here on the podcast it just doesn't feel all like user-friendly. You know, I know we talked about this before here on the podcast it just doesn't feel all user-friendly. And maybe it's just because the Google and the Samsung are trying to figure out, like the YouTube thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And some people said, well, yeah, you could download the YouTube video and then play it in the video player and do it. Well, yeah, that's a lot of extra work. It is a lot of extra work. Who's downloading a youtube video just so they can make a gift? That's even more work than you know. You could already create a gif without smart select by doing that level of work because remember, I showed you guys using the gallery. If you already have the video on your device, you can create a gif using galleries, gif creators. So the whole point of smart select is that it makes it faster. That's there, and you can do it while you're watching the video. And obviously, youtube is the place where the most people in the world are watching their videos, so it's not like it's just like a little deal. People are like, well, it's only YouTube. Well, okay.
Speaker 1:But that's like where 99% of people watch their videos. That is very true. That's like you know. That's a pretty big deal. It's not like it's some niche video site where people are watching these five videos out of the billions of people on the planet. It's like people are watching billions of minutes, or seconds of video every week.
Speaker 2:That is like the go-to place. It's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think the fact that this is not working properly on YouTube is kind of a big problem. No, I thoroughly agree. Okay, so hopefully they will fix that. I definitely think they will make some improvements there, but we'll have to see when or how long it takes them to do that. All right, moving right along, next we have some uh hardware news here for you guys. Unfortunately not us hardware news, because this is news about the Galaxy Z Fold Special Edition launch date.
Speaker 1:Samsung officially shared the invite for the press event with media, not in the US, so not with us or with any other US media, but with the Korean media in their home country of South Korea. They shared a invite that says the Galaxy Z Fold Special Edition will arrive on October 21st. Well, they didn't say that explicitly. The invite actually says join us for the unveiling of a new Galaxy with another innovation on October 21st. It has a newsroom post along with an 11-second video which I will play here for you guys so you can take a look at it. It has a person walking with an envelope, knocks on a door. They slide it under there and you open it and you see the phone. They open this thing. It looks like a piece of paper but it's actually the Z Fold Special Edition and it says you're invited 10-21.
Speaker 1:So obviously that is telling us that we will have the special edition z-fold launching on the 21st in korea. But we also know that it's not coming here to the us, it's not coming to europe, not coming to any other global markets except for china and korea. So I mean, how excited are our viewers, our listeners, going to be about this? I don't really know. I'm sure some people are excited just because they like new tech, which I like new tech as well. But if you're in the US, it's hard to get super excited because obviously you're not going to own one and you're never probably going to see one unless maybe you see me on the streets because I am going to import one.
Speaker 1:It's going to be very expensive, I'm sure um I I think they've said the equivalent cost in korea in us dollars will be around 2500 for retail and I'll really buy it on ebay and they'll mark that up to 3000 for sure, plus I'll have to pay shipping and whatever. But I mean the tech looks really impressive. The phone is going to be 4.9 millimeters when unfolded and 10.6 millimeters thick when folded. That is quite a bit thinner than the Z Fold 6, which is 5.6 millimeters and 12.1 millimeters. So particularly when it is folded, it's 1.5 millimeters thinner, which is a very, very big difference.
Speaker 2:And that's quite large.
Speaker 1:That's actually about a 20% decrease in overall thickness, which doesn't seem like a lot until you realize that you know, foldables are very thick by their nature, so any decrease in the thickness, even a 5% decrease, is going to be noticeable if you use it on a daily basis. And then, of course, we talked about the other big improvement. Everyone complains about the camera on the Z Fold line. Finally, they're going to upgrade the camera on this one, 200 megapixels, which is basically the same camera that's in the Galaxy S24 Ultra, here is going to now appear on the Z Fold Special Edition. The other cameras, the Ultra Wide and the zoom, are not supposed to be upgraded, but they are upgrading the under-display camera, the one for the selfie, and that's going to be dropped in favor of a less prominent display crease. So basically, they're going to get rid of the under-display camera but they will also have basically a less crease in the in the middle, which a lot of people complain about. That because they don't like the way it looks. Uh, because it's going to use the ultra thin glass, the ufg panel, which we talked about before, and this is an advanced version of the utg panel found on the fold six and other models. So TG panel found on the Fold 6 and other models. So very expensive but could be interesting just to see because for those of us in the US this could be a preview of what the Z Fold 7 could be next year.
Speaker 1:So even if this is not a phone that you're obviously going to probably buy yourself, for the average person it's not a phone you should buy. I'll reiterate that because one it's going to cost a lot of money to import it. But then if you do spend $3,000 to import it, you're not going to have a warranty because you didn't buy it from an official retailer, from Samsung directly, and you're in another country. They don't honor the warranty if you import it. That's true of every phone you import.
Speaker 1:I've been importing phones since I started YouTube and sometimes that's a problem. It has been a problem where I've had a phone have an issue and I just have to eat the cost. There's nothing I can do about it because you can't get warranty service and then also because it's from Korea, there's going to be some 5G bands that don't work in the US. So you're not going to get 5G everywhere, no matter what city you live in. Even in Phoenix, which is a big city. It just doesn't have the bands in the phone itself, so you won't be able to get 5G. So definitely not a phone that you want to import as your main device. Now, if you just have a ton of money and you don't care and you want a second phone to play, with, then sure.
Speaker 1:Or if you of course, like myself, you can make money by importing it and actually make a profit potentially off of the content that you create with it, then that it makes sense. If I couldn't do that, I wouldn't buy it, because it's basically not going to be my primary, because I want good 5G coverage everywhere, because of course I have a life and obviously I need to be able to do work with my phone. My phone is not just a thing that I use to create content. Just like everybody else, I use it for personal stuff, I use it for doing other business tasks outside of just creating my Samsung content.
Speaker 1:I use it for everything else. What do you think, tori? Overall, I mean, this looks pretty cool. If you go back to the actual thing, you can see if I can pause it here, right here, you. You see right there how it's kind of. Let me close the YouTube ad, because when you're in browser it doesn't matter if you have YouTube.
Speaker 2:Premium, Even though I have YouTube Premium.
Speaker 1:they still show me ads in the browser. You see here, that's the actual phone itself.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The invite is on the phone. I can make it full screen there. You're invited 10, 21, 21, 24, samsungcom. What I think is interesting is it says samsungcom, but of course that redirects you to your local samsung website. So if you're in korea, samsungcom takes you to the korean site. Yeah, a lot of people were saying well, does that mean it's going to stream live on the us version of samsungcom? And the answer is probably not, because why would you? Why would you want to advertise the event if people can't?
Speaker 1:buy it, because they'll be pretty pissed off if they can't right, like, why would you stream a launch to someone who can't purchase? That's just going to frustrate people. So yeah, I mean what do you think it looks really nice. I mean, if you look at this too, you know this event is on a white background and you really can't see the crease of that A little bit in the middle, but definitely not as bad as the z-fold six. What do you think?
Speaker 2:yeah, like uh, for me actually, uh, you kind of already said it, but uh, I was just thinking, you know, even though, like, it's going to be in the korean market, uh, this could really be a good preview to what to expect from for next year's phone, um, and so I'm really excited for it, like, and obviously I already know it's probably going to be really expensive another luxury uh style phone, but you know, I think for us here in the us and also in other markets, uh, I think this is a pretty good phone to be looking forward to. Uh, if this is what we truly get next year.
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, I mean, I think if they took this phone and they upgraded the wide angle and the telephoto camera it would be fine to call that the Z Fold 7 and release it Boom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't think they have to necessarily do too much else because this phone almost almost takes care of all of my real complaints about the z-fold six. It improves the primary camera. It gets rid of the display crease a little bit. It makes the cover display wider. It makes the overall thing thinner when it's folded and unfolded. Um, it actually makes the inner display slightly wider too, so you get a bigger canvas when it's when it's unfolded. Uh, it's using the new type of glass, which hopefully will increase the durability as well. I mean, there's not a lot to complain about with this phone. There might even be some surprises that we haven't seen yet, who knows? Uh, I'll definitely be watching the event, which is unfortunate because it's in korea and I think it's at 10 am korean time, which is 2 a am in the morning, I think in Arizona. Oh, no, no, actually it's a little bit better. I think it's maybe 9 pm.
Speaker 1:Because they're actually 14, or 15 hours ahead of us, so if I watch it I might actually not have to lose sleep. That would be good.
Speaker 2:Yes, that would be good.
Speaker 1:I mean it's not really as exciting as a US launch, because I won't be able to go on and order the product right away, because I will have to wait for the Korean resellers to list them on eBay, which will probably take a couple days. They don't usually get them up right away. Sometimes they do If they know Samsung will be sending them to them right away. Then they'll list them right away. But I can't guarantee that I'll be able to get the phone that day ordered that day. It'll probably take a little bit of time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it'll probably take a while, but if you guys are interested in this phone, I will have full content on my YouTube channel doing unboxing. I usually don't do unboxings but for this one I will, because it's a special phone and we're getting to see something that's very different. I'll have a full comparison video to the Fold 6, which I think everybody will want to see. That. I'll have some camera sample video. We'll do a lot of coverage on this phone because, well, I've got to get the money back that I pay for it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:For a lot of the other phones that we get back that $3,000 because I'm not trading anything in. I'm just going to be coming off of $3,000 of the business money to make this back. But I'm willing to take the risk because it'll be a fun one to look into.
Speaker 2:I'm really excited. I mean, I'll probably never own the phone, but you'll get to see it, yes, yes, but I'll get to see it. And you know, um, I I'm just like, I really like just the whole folding aspect and like what the future is to come with these foldable phones. So I do think this is like when we talk about innovation, um, and like kind of going back to like those tms on innovative, like innovation routes, like this is what I kind of picture like moving, and actually two things about that that I want to mention. That's actually not Samsung innovation roots this is what I kind of picture moving forward, and actually two things about that that I want to mention.
Speaker 1:That's actually not in the show notes, but I had forgotten to put in there One. If you guys want to ask me questions about the Z Fold Special Edition or any other Samsung stuff, we have a brand new Sammy Guru Discord server that we just opened like a week ago. So far I think we've got like 50 or 60 members over there, but we'll keep growing it. People who are having fun talking Samsung, doing some Samsung memes. We're posting photography from our cameras, talking about the podcast. We have a channel to talk about the podcast, to discuss what me and Tori get into.
Speaker 1:Every week when I get new phones. You guys can come over there and kind of do some Q&A. I've been hanging over there quite a bit, so if you want to chat with me, come and join the Discord. We can talk over there. When I get the Z Fold Special Edition, I'm happy to like answer any questions people have about it in the Discord. It's a lot easier there than via email or Twitter or X whatever, because you can have a real like kind of chat set up on Discord and I kind of like it and I kind of like it. It's going to be a good place for everyone to hang out and eventually we'll get it to where it needs to be, I think by the end of the year. My goal is to try to get to 1,000 members on the Discord by the end of the year. I think no problem.
Speaker 2:We should be able to do that. Yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1:With the S25 and One UI 7 coming out, we'll easily get the Discord to over 1,000 by the other thing is Samsung.
Speaker 1:I made a video on this as well. Samsung came out in their earnings call I think this was right before I went to Vegas and they apologized to their investors for their lack of innovation. They said we're sorry, we haven't been doing what we did in the past and it's caused our earnings to be less than projected, and we promise we're going to pick up the innovation. And they were talking about everything across Samsung, not just mobile, but they were talking about their chips, like Samsung's foundry, where they manufacture the different trips and stuff that they create displays, all their other consumer products, mobile, everything. And they were saying, basically, we know we kind of dropped the ball with that and we're going to do better for our investors, for our customers and everything with that, and we're going to do better for our investors, for our customers and everything. So Samsung is aware of what people have said about them kind of not not going out and and really pushing the envelope anymore, which is kind of funny because this Z fold special edition one has is an envelope in the thing.
Speaker 2:So maybe they're trying, maybe they're. I think that's, I think that's exactly what they were saying to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think that was an accident. I meant to mention that earlier, but I kind of just segued into it because I'm just a master of the segue. That's why, yeah, he is. But I think that is actually why it's there.
Speaker 1:They're pushing the envelope, I mean they said they were going to do that they said in their apology to the investors. In that video I made, I talked about it. I read the statement from the chairman of Samsung Electronics and that's one thing. He says we're going to push the envelope and they pushed it, so we'll see what happens at that event. Let's see if they mention anything about pushing the envelope. I know Up next, some Samsung Wallet news.
Speaker 1:I don't get too much Samsung Wallet news, so this is kind of interesting. Samsung Wallet now has a new feature where you can tap to transfer cash between two Samsung phones. Apple Cash already has this on iPhones, and so I guess Samsung felt the need that we kind of need it too. It's a cool feature. I would use it because I have a lot of people. Obviously, I know a lot of people who have Samsung phones. Some people are like oh, I know a lot of people who have Samsung phones. Some people are like, oh, I have a lot of iPhone friends and I use the only one with a Samsung, Not me, because I don't surround myself with people. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:I'm definitely the first. Everyone has Apple. I'm the only one. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But see, if me and Tori go out to dinner and he picks up the towel, I can tap to transfer some cash to pay Tori back for half the meal. Now, yeah, we can do it and my wife uses it. So I mean I would use it. I would use it because I mean I have a lot of people who use Samsung. My mother-in-law uses it, my mother uses it. I don't even know anyone. Oh, I do know my brother-in-law uses an iPhone, so we tried to get him to convert guy.
Speaker 2:But so, like uh, to do this would you just need to have like a samsung pay set up. Samsung wallet, yeah, or samsung, yeah, they keep changing the name of the damn thing I don't know why they do it. Google has done it too.
Speaker 1:It was like it was like google pay, google wallet g pay.
Speaker 2:People are like what the hell?
Speaker 1:no one knows what it is that's why you know people get so upset sometimes with samsung android stuff is because there's no consistency. Apple Pay has been Apple Pay since the beginning and so that's why when you go to the store all the signs say it takes Apple Pay. A lot of them don't even put the Android Samsung thing because they have to keep changing their sign. So much. They don't have the budget to change it. Is it GPay? Is it Google Wallet? Is it Samsung Pay?
Speaker 2:Is it Samsung Wallet? What the?
Speaker 1:hell are these things called? No one knows. So they're just like, well, we'll just take that part of the sign away, and then everyone will know that Apple Pay means it also takes the other ones as well, and so we just have to deal with it, so we have to take some responsibility for that.
Speaker 1:They keep changing the name of these services, so you can't really blame Target that they don't have Samsung Pay accepted because they don't necessarily know what it's called and pay accepted because they don't necessarily know what it's called. Yeah, sure, and it's Samsung and Google's fault too, not just the companies that take these payments. So anyway, yeah, basically it enables you to send and receive money by tapping the backs of your phone. It uses NFC to connect the two terminals and transfer the funds. Select a bank account registered on your Samsung wallet, enter the password to unlock it, enter the transfer amount and then tap it to your friend's phone.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool, I like that.
Speaker 1:The system encrypts the beneficiary account number and the sender only sees the last four digits. They can set up a representative account to receive money without unlocking their phones. So this is really great. I definitely will use it when it comes out. The unfortunate news is it's not here in the US yet. It's only in South Korea. It will be coming to more banks and globally over the next year, so it will be in the US. But this is another one of those things where, unfortunately, we just had the Z Fold Special Edition, which is Korea and China exclusive Right now.
Speaker 1:This is basically like vaporware in the US we don't have it. It will come, but you got to realize some people get frustrated with this. I'm more frustrated with the hardware not coming here, because you got to understand with something like a wallet, there's a lot of government regulation required. People don't think about this, and this is something that Max was talking about too and we were chatting with him about AI stuff. There's a lot of regulation that goes into financial services. So if you roll something out in, for instance, if you roll something out in Korea, or you roll something out in Europe, you can't necessarily also then just port it right over to the US. You've got to deal with governmental restrictions, fdic, all the individual banks, all the encryption protocols that are required in the different countries. It's a lot of work and even for a nearly trillion dollar company like Samsung it takes some time. Even when you've got whatever they have like 190,000 global employees that still takes time to work on those things. So it is going to take some time and I think probably by the middle of 2025,. The US is a priority market for Samsung, so we will be the second market to get it after Korea. Almost certainly we won't be far down the line, but it will take some time because of all the laws here.
Speaker 1:Now they did say they'll continue to expand features that are highly useful in daily life, such as account addition, atm deposit and withdrawal and transfer services, so that users can easily enjoy convenient mobile financial life with Samsung Wallet.
Speaker 1:So this is very interesting to me because what they're saying is theoretically this would take a lot of certification. So again, this definitely wouldn't be next year. This would be like multiple years down the road. Theoretically, I could have my personal account, my business account for Sammy Guru and whatever else bank accounts in my Samsung wallet and I could just roll up to one of those banks' ATMs, tap on the account I want NFC, tap it to the ATM thing and withdraw my money, and so then I don't even really need to carry cards, even to get cash. Not only can I pay with my phone using debit or credit, I can also now use it to get cash everywhere, and I wouldn't have to carry around multiple debit cards and potentially multiple credit cards based on whether or not you're using your business account or you're using your personal. So I think this is really cool. Would you use these features once we get them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I am actually really excited and it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2:I stopped by a Wells Fargo ATM on the way here and I saw someone paying, you know, paying, uh, or not paying, but like trying to access their um bank account through the ATM, using, like, their phone to pay the tap.
Speaker 2:And you know, I just really feel like this is a very um, uh or intuitive thing that a lot of people will go towards because, like kind of like what we said before, like these phones, like they're really like a way of life and and we use them in our daily commutes like all the time and and and again, like this is like such, like a big, like investment that you know, like um, that we, as most people here, uh, on their the daily commute, use them for paying with Cash App Venmo, and I just think this would just be such a cool thing. I am so excited to use this. I just got to find more Samsung people to use it with, but I am really excited and I think a lot of people would be really excited once we are able to get through all legislative and stuff to actually bring this over here. I think this would be like a big game changer for Samsung for sure.
Speaker 1:I mean, what would be really nice is if you could tap it between Samsung and iPhone. But we know Apple is never going to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got to make that money. We might as well forget about that. Yeah, that's sure.
Speaker 1:That's never going to happen. Just like you know, being able to use iMessage on Android or use your Apple Watch with a Samsung phone None of those things are ever going to happen.
Speaker 2:So you might as well forget about all of that. Even better. On the watch, exactly, yeah, yeah, if you could tap watch to watch, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm particularly excited for the fact that if you could have all your accounts, I could then tap at any ATM, pick which account I want to get cash out of. I don't have to carry any cards, basically Because you still need to carry your debit card if you want to get cash, even if you have your phone. But now I could get cash and pay with my cards pretty much everywhere, because everywhere has NFC. I only need to carry my license and my medical insurance card now in my wallet and Samsung has rolled out card now in my wallet and Samsung has rolled out. I already have it, actually, because Arizona was the first state to get it, which was really cool. I have my license in my Samsung wallet too. Oh yeah, you can put your Arizona license in your Samsung wallet.
Speaker 1:And most medical insurance companies do allow you to have like a digital version of your card. Unfortunately those are pretty much on their app. Samsung hasn't gotten those integrated yet, but eventually they'll integrate those, I think, into Wallet and then you don't even need a wallet. You just carry your phone. You've got your health insurance cards, your debit cards, your credit cards Everything's in Samsung Wallet your license, and then there you go. But the thing is, you know?
Speaker 2:I get annoyed because doctor's offices they're really like stuck in like the 1980s because they still want to make like a hard copy of your insurance card and I'm like I don't have one. I don't carry one, sorry, you know, and that's the problem.
Speaker 1:We got to get it going, you know, so that we can streamline this, because a lot of other areas are not on board with the tech revolution.
Speaker 2:That's for sure.
Speaker 1:There's a long time where, like even Target didn't have like NFC terminals. I was like what is going on?
Speaker 2:that was like some stores like as recently as, like a couple years ago during covid, they didn't have nfc terminals like what the hell, or even like all of walmart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, they're all all. Walmart doesn't have nfc either. You can't tap to pay yet and that, and they make so much money.
Speaker 2:That's always my thing every time I go there you make so much money. Why don't you just do it?
Speaker 1:They're like the fourth biggest company in the US, and they can't get NFC terminals. What's going on? Anyway, I think this is a cool feature. It's not in the US yet.
Speaker 2:The theme of today is I'm really excited.
Speaker 1:The theme of today is things that Are coming but you can't have yet, because they're not here or the updates aren't available. That's like the number one theme of today's episode of the Sammy Guru podcast.
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Speaker 1:All right, we're back from the break. Let's go ahead and talk about Tab S10 Ultra story really quickly. I actually have the Tab S10 Ultra over here, as I said, and in the hardware segment I'll talk a little bit more about my impressions of the new processor and everything like that, because I know some people are interested in how the MediaTek is performing in there because since they went away from Snapdragon but some pretty unfortunate software news the Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra is only going to receive quarterly security updates. That is not really great for a tablet that costs so much money I traded in my Tab S9 Ultra. It's like a laptop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly, I traded in my Tab S9 Ultra. It's like a laptop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, exactly. I traded in the Tab S9 Ultra this is the one I got the big boy model, the one terabyte, and this thing cost about $15.99, I think. I traded in my Tab S9 Ultra, so I got it for like I got a $900 trading credit, so I got it for like $6.99. But that's a very expensive price. I mean, the base model is $1199. Actually, I put that in the article here and they're only going to give you quarterly updates guaranteed. That is not great. Remember. The phones pretty much get monthly updates and obviously this tablet costs more than a lot of Samsung's phones.
Speaker 1:So I think it's unfortunate that they're only going to offer quarterly updates. So I think it's unfortunate that they're only going to offer quarterly updates. That shows kind of that Samsung deprioritizes their tablets over their phones, whereas Apple kind of keeps the iPad and the iPhone on the same level playing field. I do think this is kind of a downside that would make. If I was considering buying a Samsung Tab, I would probably be less inclined to do so if I saw this. Obviously, most average consumers probably aren't going to see this because it's buried in the fine print. I mean, that's why I had the guys write an article about it, to bring it to people's attention, just so they know about this. But a lot of people probably didn't notice this before they bought it. What do you think about the story? Do you think Samsung should prioritize? I mean, this is their flagship tablet do?
Speaker 2:you think it's? Fair to assume that it should get the same kind of monthly update treatment that we get on the phones well, yeah, um, and because, uh, looking at it, obviously it's massive, and even looking at it on the samsung website, let me grab it. Uh is um, yeah, yeah, bring that big boy over here.
Speaker 1:Check it out, right here.
Speaker 2:You know it's a very premium. I mean like that looks very premium.
Speaker 1:It's absolutely massive. Holding it in portrait is just like. It's very weird. Like I told you guys, one time I did a lecture when I was at the university like this because I forgot my smaller tablet. And the students were like what the hell is going on? Because it's massive.
Speaker 2:Look how you're gonna hold it if you want to check it out. Yeah, and I I really like the weight. Um, this is a very very nice piece of hardware here very nice. It is um kind of almost like reminds me of like a surface pro, uh, but like a bigger version. Got the s pen too on the back. Well, actually I have it. I have the s. I was wondering what that was.
Speaker 1:Yeah this is a. This is the official samsung uh the case it's the official samsung case.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's got a little spot for the s pen on the back. I have the s pen in there on my desk because I've been using it to take notes. The other day I obviously keep this like right on my desk because it's too big. I'm not going to care. This is not a portable tablet. I keep it there for media, for for note-taking with the S Pen and multitasking. I keep my socials up all day on this, so that way if I want to respond to someone on socials I don't have to open my phone, because it's right there in front of my laptop on here.
Speaker 1:You can have four windows, five windows open on this. Yeah, easily, easily, for sure, so yeah, so I mean, yeah, don't you think that maybe they should give the same update? Update support well, yeah.
Speaker 2:So like, uh, actually kind of have a question about that. Actually, um, because I'm not a you know, active like samsung, like by you know everything. I don't have everything of samsung, mostly just to have phones and phones, um, but I know we talked about this on the show before that uh, and my question is mostly is there a big um, you, a population of people that are out here buying the Tab S's? You know, because, you know, looking at it from Samsung, maybe they're like, well, we're trying to get the Tab S up to our phone level. So like, yeah, you know, we're going to be pumping out those updates, you know, to the phones, but you know, they don't probably don't see a need to update the tablets as much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hear what you're saying, playing devil's advocate. I think that's probably what they think is that, since it's not making them as much revenue, why dedicate as much developer resources to developing, pushing out those updates, because that does take extra time. There's obviously a much smaller demographic of people using Samsung tablets versus phones.
Speaker 2:I mean Samsung's big. I mean like we talked about it before, but like we want on-the-go. Yeah, I don't really know, that's not really on-the-go. I mean I love it because it's way like overkill.
Speaker 1:As a Samsung fan, I like it, but I mean, I think they need to reevaluate the sizes of their flagship tablet lineup. They have the smaller Tab, S10+, but that's still 12.4 inches, which is still big. That's basically as big as the large iPad Pro. They don't have an 11-inch offering. They used to Remember they deleted it.
Speaker 2:They had the base model. Yeah, I remember that they got rid of it this year.
Speaker 1:I don't know why. Because I feel like people want more portable and also even like a mini, like a Tab S10 mini, because Apple just released a new version of the iPad mini and that's one of their most sold tablets.
Speaker 2:It's an 8-inch tablet.
Speaker 1:But I think Samsung's thing is they don't want to sell a mini tablet because then that would cannibalize the foldable sales, because if you want a mini tablet, they want you to buy the z fold six, because that has a bigger margin than a mini tablet probably would and also has more, they could probably sell more units of that. Um, if they push people to that who want a small tablet, that's probably their idea. But I think you're right. I just think it's a shame and I think unfortunately, since they don't want to devote the resources to monthly updates, that's going to push more people towards using a Samsung phone. Yeah, but then an iPad is their tablet, which isn't good because you don't want people dipping their toes into the Apple ecosystem, because then they might decide to stay and also get the phone and then they're completely gone.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You don't really. You know there are a lot of people who have a Samsung phone and an Apple iPad as their tablet, because the iPad just has more support. Apple puts more support into the iPad, it's just a fact. The Tab S10 Ultra I love it because obviously Apple still refuses to do real multitasking. So even though I like my iPad as a multitasking machine, it's completely useless. What I do with the Tab S10 Ultra you can't do with the iPad because you can't have pop-up windows. You can only have two side-by-side windows, you can't have three. So like the multitasking I do with the Tavistan Ultra is not really possible, because I usually have like X and Facebook and Instagram and YouTube Studio up in pop-up windows and then I'll have like the browser and my notes app side by side and so I can have all that six apps simultaneously. I only have two on the iPad. So I mean personally for me, for my use case for using that big tablet, it works, but I don't know the tablet's a weird thing for Samsung.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, kind of also bringing back when you mentioned the price, like for what is it? $1,500? $1,599 for the top model? Yeah, yeah, 16. Um, you know that's a pretty penny. They should be pumping out some updates for it, uh, on a monthly.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, yeah, on a monthly basis because, like that is a premium piece of hardware yeah um, but and even then, like I would say, for the average consumer, they're probably getting this as like a birthday or a christmas present, but, like you know, like they still would want you know, like something really like all right, I'm getting a monthly update, I've um, I'm, you know, I'm up with the times, not like a quarterly update, you know, because that could be like whenever within and also it's for security.
Speaker 1:So if there's a critical security patch in. January, then you're not going to get it until April. True. So, like oh well, if that vulnerability affects your Tab S10, then oh, too bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think that's going to sit.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess you'll just get that fixed in April. Sorry to tell you, but that vulnerability will be patched later. Yeah, your phone will be good, but we'll wait until April to patch the $1,600 tablet that you bought from us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I'm not a big fan of it, I mean for budget tablets. I'm okay with that, because Samsung makes hundreds of devices. They can't update all of them on monthly schedule because even with 190,000 employees or whatever schedule, because even with 190,000 employees or whatever you know, it takes thousands of employees just dedicated to doing these software updates monthly to work on and push them out for every model. Because remember, this is important. I always remind people of it. People want to know, like, why can't Samsung push the updates and why can't Google push the updates to every model at the same time, like Apple does? Apple makes their own hardware and software and they only sell like four different models of phone. Samsung sells like 40. Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 2:Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 1:Google Assistant. That's enough, jim and I. I didn't ask you anything. I'm talking here.
Speaker 2:I'm the expert on this show, jim and I is trying to give me some education, I don't need any.
Speaker 1:I know what I'm talking about Anyway samsung makes like 50 different models of phones budget, mid-range, flagship in a bunch of different regions and a lot of them are region specific skews. Whether that's good or bad you could debate, but it's impossible to push out the update to every single model at the same time. Yeah, because, remember, they also don't make the hardware and the software. Google makes android, then samsung customizes it to create one ui, so they have to build their software on top of android, which is not their product, it's google's then customize that and then make it fit with all these different types of hardware that run the broad spectrum of, like you know, 1500, $1,500 phone to $150 phone. And Apple doesn't have that. They don't, they don't have to deal with that. So it's not reasonable. You can keep saying like I wish it would happen.
Speaker 1:It's like I wish I was going to be GQ's man of the year, but it's just not going to happen, like it's not in the cards.
Speaker 2:It's just not in the cards for me.
Speaker 1:You know, like my life is doing pretty, pretty well, but that's just not in the cards for my particular journey and so that's not going to happen. So people always say that in the youtube comments too. I read it a lot. It's like I'm sorry that you want that, but it's never going to happen.
Speaker 1:So you know, unless something major happens with the way samsung does software, either they quit using android and make their own in-house solution yeah or they stop offering so many different models of hardware and they just make the S line and the fold line, the other two flagships which is never going to happen, because they sell millions and millions of units of mid-range and budget in India and other markets. That makes them too much money. They won't stop doing that, but if they did, then maybe it could happen. But currently, as the scenario is, don't hold your breath, that's never going to occur, yeah, no.
Speaker 1:All right. So the next thing is I don't even know why I'm covering this piece of news, because this isn't news. Someone decided that this was news. I don't know if it was Sam Mobile or Sammy fans. We covered it just so that we could try to get some of the search traffic, because that's the business side of this. I think maybe Sammy fans push this out because they like to cover a lot of like. I don't want to be mean, but they cover a lot of garbage. That isn't really news.
Speaker 1:So the One UI 7 beta is going to be public, not just for developers. I guess someone got it in their mind when Sally said that they would cede the beta to you because we were at the developer conference. She said to all of you in December that maybe that meant it was only going to be for developers in December and we weren't going to get to test it if you weren't a developer One. Anybody can sign up as a developer so you could get it anyway. I think you have to pay a little bit, because with Apple you have to pay $99 a year, but it's not like you can't. You can sign up. It's not like you're going to have a problem getting it, but she also didn't mean that. Very clearly, the beta has never been developer only recently. Yeah, I don't know who thought this, so I guess they sammy fans. This is what this is like their strategy.
Speaker 1:I'm going to start doing this they just go like to the community forums, samsung community forums, and they ask the korean moderators like is this true? And then when they get a, the moderator some of them don't even know. They're just like some guy is like you know, he works for Samsung. Some of them are not even really full Samsung employees. They're like you know, do it volunteer? He's like yeah, that's true. And then they go and publish it as like a truth article. I mean, we post some of this stuff too, but only when it's like been verified. Try it with other things as well, because you can't publish every community forum reply Now, if it's been posted by them.
Speaker 1:And then Ice Universe says, yeah, that's true, or some other leakster, or we get another source that says, yeah, that's probably going to happen. Then we'll write something about it you take that one to the bank.
Speaker 1:But I mean, I don't know. We posted a story on this because everybody else did, but I kind of didn't want to. To me it's all about making sure we stay competitive. I understand, I never had any doubt that it was going to be public. But hey, if you were worried that in December you weren't going to be able to get the beta unless you're a developer, that's not true. They confirmed that. Well, the Samsung community moderators confirmed that, so I don't even know how much confirmation all around this story has got lots of problems. No one ever doubted it that it would be public. But I promise you, if it's not public, if it's not public beta in December, I will shave my head on the podcast.
Speaker 1:So, if they push out a beta, that's developer. Only you guys can take it to the bank. You can mark it at 5505 in episode 17. I'll shave my head live on the podcast. So there you go.
Speaker 2:I guarantee you it will indeed be a public beta. Yeah, I don't see why not.
Speaker 1:Samsung also is changing their mind on the One UI 7 icon, so we talked about this. I didn't actually put the link for this to the site the story on the site but I can go back and find it. We've talked about this at SDC, when I got my hands on with the phone that was running One UI 7.0. The icons people were not happy with these icons. They're like what's going on with these icons? They just look ridiculous. They all look disjointed. Particularly, the one that people hated the most was the rainbow colored gallery icon. People hated it, and so this is it right here.
Speaker 1:Actually, that's the zoomed-in version from my hands-on, people were just appalled that Samsung would potentially put this on One UI 7. And so, anyway, ice Universe, he chimed in and said in the latest version of One UI 7, samsung has replaced multiple icons such as gallery, phone camera recorder, contacts, samsung Notes, etc. The new icons are more reasonable and better looking than before. Perhaps Samsung is keeping an eye on user feedback at all times. So basically he's suggesting that people you know, after we covered the leaks at SDC and everybody else did everyone's how much they hated them Samsung was like oh well, let's go ahead and change that, because no one likes that, which I had actually crossed my mind. We talked about this a couple weeks ago when I came back from STC. You know, I was thinking maybe it's possible that maybe they did like plant those phones at STC, hoping someone would post some leaks and then, yeah, how does the people feel?
Speaker 1:yeah, and they just wanted to see it because they didn't really have everything running, but they had, like, the icons. Maybe they're trying to get like, they're trying to do like a customer survey of like should we keep these icons or not? And they found out people hated them. So the answer was no, they should not. And then holly, who's another samsung influencer holly likes tech anxious. Holly is her twitter handle. She said does the gallery still have the same colors, the rainbow colors? And ice universe responded no, changed it to a color tone dominated by red, and so if you look at the current gallery icon, it is indeed dominated by red.
Speaker 1:It's actually like a pinkish red right here yeah you can see it's not really fully red, but it's pinkish red you guys can see on your own phone, um, and so it's actually like a pinkish red right here. Yeah, you can see, it's not really fully red, but it's pinkish red you guys can see on your own phone, um, and so it's good to see that they're taking into account the user feedback. Um, I hope they change the camera icon too, because I didn't particularly like that one. Um, that one the one we have currently is good, but the one I like it, yeah, the one they had on the new one.
Speaker 1:It basically looked like it was a spy lens.
Speaker 1:There was no camera there anymore, it was basically supposed to be the lens of the camera, but it looked like you were being spied on. I think people didn't really like the implication of that, so I think they got rid of that. This guy who does renders over on X I bookmarked his. Let's see if I can find it. Where are my bookmarks Over here? This guy made some renders of what the icons could look like, based on Ice Universe's feedback. So this column over here are the possible ones for the redesign. So this is the ones I saw at SDC and these are the ones based on Ice's replies that he thinks could be what they're kind of moving towards.
Speaker 2:So this is the one that you have on your phone now. And then this would be potentially the new one for the camera. I actually like it. It looks nice. Me too, I think the leaked One UI 7, for me it gives me iPhone, Apple vibes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like iPhone, or the Chinese OEM Android, like Xiaomi, yeah, kind of like that. That's pretty much everyone's go. I would like that one. I kind of like that.
Speaker 2:That's pretty much everyone's thing. I would like that one Because I, like with the originals or before, the One UI 7, the One UI 6, these ones just kind of make everything feel separate from iPhone. But I really like this concept. If they really do go towards that. I think it makes it a little bit more updated.
Speaker 1:This guy is just a graphic artist. He's not a leaker so he doesn't know. He just took the comments that Ice made and then his replies to like Holly and some other people because you know he said they changed it to mostly a red color gallery and he just made some mock-ups. He's a graphic designer, so he made some nice ones that he thought could be kind of where they might be going.
Speaker 2:But some nice ones that he thought could be kind of where they might be going.
Speaker 1:But as long as listening, I really like this. Yeah, I particularly like the gallery icon because it actually changes it to being more red than pink. Now, yeah, but it does have like a gradient that goes red to pink from right to left.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do like that.
Speaker 1:So I do like the look of this. I mean, if they went something like this, I'd be perfectly fine with it. It's definitely a huge improvement I mean the phone one I could do with on all of them is okay, but I still don't like the bright green and the one that they had at sdc too much apple?
Speaker 1:yeah, because it's too close to the apple version and it would be nice to have you know something that's a little more, you know, close to samsung. So if you were appalled by the icons at sC that I showed off, then good news. So maybe they're not going to stick with that. The last thing is actually one of the biggest stories. One UI 7 offers next-level customization for Galaxy phones, and this is about the new HomeUp module for One UI 7. And I made a full video on this which I posted today. It's doing quite well. People are very interested in this. Basically, in One UI 7, the HomeUp module is getting an update that allows you to tweak basically everything to do with animations and blur.
Speaker 1:We've talked about how there's a certain subset of the Samsung fan base that really cares about controlling every detail of the animation when you're going home, and now they let you do that in multiple different ways. One of them is very mathematical, so let's talk about them for a second. The first one is simple tuning. You can change it to one of three different options. The first one is called pixel by pixel, which means basically it's going to be a faster animation. The next one is the scent of a certain fruit. Feel the sweet taste of red fruit. They are talking about Apple and iOS there. That is an Apple reference. This is a Samsung app and they're saying if you want your Samsung phone to have animations, like an iPhone. That's what they're saying without saying it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Choose that option, so HomeUp will have an option that will basically. People have said for a long time that they wanted iOS-like animations on your Samsung.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't either, but if you do, you can choose that and you can get the scent of a certain fruit.
Speaker 1:It's very funny.
Speaker 2:And then the last one.
Speaker 1:There is simple tuning. You can either choose your animations to be really fast, or you can go to emotionally, which means slowly, I to be really fast, or you can go to emotionally, which means slowly. I don't know why they just call it slowly, but emotionally means they like the word emotion Samsung. I don't know why. I guess that's a thing in Korea, like emotionally. Anyway, that seems kind of strange to say to me. But slow or fast for the animations. But you can also tune them using advanced properties, including my personal favorite, which is the cubic Bezier curve.
Speaker 1:It's the cubic Bezier curve. I'll find it here. I've got to go to this guy's profile. I have it in a video form but it's easier to show his screenshots. This guy posted a bunch of it right here, bunch of it's right here.
Speaker 1:So you can use this new tool called the interpolator, which uses what is called the cubic bezier curve, which is used in computer graphics and animation to determine the trajectory along which something will travel when you're doing a particular animation.
Speaker 1:So a cubic bezier curve.
Speaker 1:Being a mathematician, of course, I looked this up because I haven't really heard of it. It's basically a parametric curve, that that is parameterized, uh, with a couple of different points, and usually a cubic curve has four points, and so, basically, you'll have two points that are fixed and there's two points that you can change, which will change the trajectory along which the curve will travel. And so in this case, the left, bottom and top right corners are fixed, zero, zero, and one one in the plane, and the pink and the green points control the beginning of the animation and the end of the animation. So, essentially, when you go home on your galaxy phone, the icon like if I go to x and then I go home the icon travels back into the home screen and this animation will determine how fast or slow the icon travels. The pink point will control how fast it travels at the beginning of the animation and the green point will control how fast it travels at the end of the animation. Oh, okay, and they actually give you a description of it down there below.
Speaker 1:For me it's obviously really cool because we're mathematicians, but I think this might be a little too technical for people who are, like average users, trying to use home up obviously obviously they probably won't try to touch this. They'll probably just use scent of a certain fruit or the simple tuning, yeah, this is an advanced add-on, but I love it. I think this is really cool. People have been asking like we want to control every detail of the animations.
Speaker 1:Well, now you can and you get the technical the technical tool and the mathematics behind how it's actually controlled, uh, at the graphics level, at the animation level. So this is, I think, is awesome. They also, in the HomeUp module, include new options for larger folders. He shows off the larger folder. That's a new larger folder, right?
Speaker 1:there, you can have a folder that is a 4x2. Pop-up folders where you can swipe the folder for pop-up. That's something that's been in, like Nova and other launchers for a while. A folder that is a four by two pop-up folders where you can swipe the folder for pop-up. That's something that's been in, like Nova and other launchers for a while. They're going to bring that and for all of you guys out there who've been following me for this one thing for the last year they're bringing back the vertical app drawer.
Speaker 1:It is in there as an activity. It's called apps list, which is what it's always been called in home up. That will also Not something you can run on your phone right now if you have a One UI 6.1 phone. How did we run it?
Speaker 1:Well, we used something called APKM, which allows you to unpack an APK and run its activities. That doesn't mean it actually works on the phone, so if you change any of these settings, it doesn't do anything right now. It just lets you see the menus. So that's how this guy ran it and that's how I ran it in the video that I made, but you can't actually use any of them. It doesn't actually change anything. So you won't be able to use this until you get One UI 7, which should be available in December. When we get the beta, you'll be able to try out these HomeUp functions and, of course, I'll make a full video actually showing how they work once I get something that can actually run. Here. I was just showing the settings, but what do you think about the options? What do you think about these overall?
Speaker 2:customization choices. Honestly, I say having as much customization as possible. I think this is a very welcome addition back, and I can see a lot of users kind of like what you said too, just picking the first two easier options.
Speaker 1:Most people are never going to go into the advanced tuning.
Speaker 2:I really don't think so for, like most average users, but I feel like there's a lot of people who do you know, are sorry on the YouTube and do follow us as Sammy Guru, who would like to have that type of capability to control. So I think this is going to hit all the fan service.
Speaker 1:Yeah, judging by my YouTube feedback from the video I posted on today, I think a lot of people who follow us and read semi guru and watch the YouTube channel, the podcast, they they really want me to do a detailed thing about the cubic Bezier curve. I talked about it briefly in the video but they to show like how it will change the properties when the update does arrive, and so I probably will do a deep dive and talk a little more about the mathematics. I did some research on it. I read again. I mean, obviously I know what parametric curve is, but this is a specific one relevant to computer graphics and that's not really my field. So I'd never really seen it before. But I definitely can give some insight into what it's doing and how it's doing it now that I've read more about it. So I will probably make an article on Sammy Guru explaining it. I didn't want to put it in today's video because it's going to be really technical and not everybody will want it. So I'll put it in a post and you can read it, if you're interested, when the update comes out. So all right. So I think we're now to a chance to talk about some hardware, and I've got three different pieces of hardware that I want to talk about, so I'll say some brief things about each one. I don't have a ton to say about it. I mean I guess I have some stuff to say about this, but it's not really the most exciting product in the world.
Speaker 1:This is the Galaxy S24 FE. It's the blue one. This is Samsung's budget S24 model. I've been running this now since I got back from SDC. It's a very good phone. I think it's just a very confusing phone.
Speaker 1:I talked about this on the podcast before. It's just released at a weird time because it's like the middle of October. The S25 is coming out in like two and a half three months and this phone is not that much cheaper than a regular base model S25. This was $649, I think I paid for it. If it were me, I would just wait to get the S25 or the S25 Plus. It's going to be a little more money, but I mean you're going to get a better camera. The bezels on this are a lot bigger. You can see like the black around the screen. The bezels are just they're bigger. You're going to get a better camera. The bezels on this are a lot bigger. You can see like the black around the screen. The bezels are just they're bigger than you're going to get on the flagship lineup. The camera's not quite as good. You're not going to get, you know, the same sensors that you would get on the flagship model coming up in January.
Speaker 1:The battery life is phenomenal. So if you really only care about battery life, I guess I mean because this one doesn't have as high resolution display. It's also running a chip that's not quite as powerful or as hungry. I've been running this, you know, and it lasts a good two days. If you use it as your primary without charging it, it'll be down to like 20, 15%. I ran it in Vegas for a while and used it.
Speaker 1:I just think it's a confusing phone because it looks good. I mean, honestly, the blue does look good. There's nothing wrong with like the look of this phone, but you're going to get a lot of upgrades if you opt to go with the S25. I don't know why, though, that they don't have a smaller version of the FE, because this is actually not the same size as the S24. It's the same size as the S24 Plus. Another thing that confused me, too, is when I started using this phone. I noticed the fingerprint sensors at the very bottom. It's actually a lot lower than it is on the Galaxy S24 Ultra or the S24 Plus. This one's actually higher, closer to the middle, and the reason for that is I had forgotten people on Twitter.
Speaker 1:They straightened me out because if you post something on Twitter and you're supposed to be Sammy Grew people on Twitter they straighten me out because you know, if you post something on Twitter and you're supposed to be Sammy Gru, people are like why don't you know that? Well, I'd forgotten. The ones that use the ultrasonic sensor are in the closer to the middle. This uses the regular optical fingerprint sensor. It's not the same tech. But I will be honest, even though it's lower and I don't like that, it's not that much worse than the ultrasonic. It is less accurate, for sure, because of course, the ultrasonic is just a better technology and that's also how they cut the cost on a cheaper phone. Yeah, but if you get used to it being lower, it's pretty accurate.
Speaker 1:I was pretty impressed with it. Um, given that it's inferior overall tech, if you're not an enthusiast, nothing wrong with it. It's just like if it were me and if I was devising most of our demographic, I wouldn't buy this in october because the s25 lineup will come out for a little bit more money, especially if you have a couple year old phone which, if you're an enthusiast, your phone probably isn't more than two or three years old. Samsung's going to give you a ton of trade-in value in january, even for tori on the s22 ultra. They're going to give you a lot of money to trade that in. So why buy this when you could probably trade in your S22 Ultra and get an S25 Plus S25 Ultra for probably the same price or close to it?
Speaker 2:No, I actually have a question on that go to like AT&T to, you know, get a new phone or no. I'm just in there, uh, or uh, just when I just like I'm out and about and I'm seeing people purchasing Samsung phones uh, for the FEs I mostly see, uh, either you know teenage or parents buying them for their teenagers. Uh, you know, maybe they're um for college students and um, uh, mostly like a like an elderly demographic you know buys this one. Um, I'm envisioning probably more so, like people getting it around like christmas time and stuff like that. Uh, maybe I'm just trying to find a justification, maybe why they may release it in october if that's their demographic they're heading for. But would you do you think that this is another great solid phone for those who are like teens going off to college? Maybe it's like you know, a phone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I'm sure, obviously, obviously the phone sells or they wouldn't keep making it.
Speaker 2:So I mean I'm not going to say it doesn't sell because it probably does.
Speaker 1:It's just a weird time for the enthusiast crowd because it's not really the time you want to buy a phone when the S25 series will come out. If you're in the group that cares about having the latest phone, you're not going to want to buy this.
Speaker 2:Older people Do most enthusiasts, you think, would want this, or would they just always want the higher grade? I think?
Speaker 1:they probably mostly want the higher grade for sure. But I mean, this is a good phone. If you're an average user, you care about battery life. The only thing I would say is for the college girls. They might not want this, because the camera is not as good they want that flip. Yeah, they might want the flip or wait for the S25 as well, because the selfie camera on this is good.
Speaker 2:But it's not as good.
Speaker 1:So if you're like taking a lot of Instagrammable shots or a lot of selfies whatever you know those, those kind of college girls they probably wouldn't necessarily want this. But for older people like your grandparents or something, this is a perfect phone. Like, I mean, my mother-in-law she's not that old but I gave her the S23 FE last year cause her phone broke and I gave her the S23. She's had no problems with it.
Speaker 1:She's never said, oh, like the display is not high resolution enough or the camera doesn't really work that much Because she doesn't take a lot of selfies outside of taking some with our kids or something, and the rear camera is still good enough. I mean, it's not going to be great for, like, macro shots or low light, but if you're just taking photos of like your grandkids or something, they're going to like that, so I imagine you're right. They probably sell this to a specific demographic that has nothing to do with enthusiasts, so they don't really care. They're not worried about this, isn't going to cannibalize the S25 sales they obviously know that it's not a bad phone.
Speaker 1:It's a good phone for a certain type of person, but it's just not a phone, probably for most of our listeners, I would imagine who listen regularly, because it just doesn't make sense to buy one when the next version is coming out.
Speaker 1:And also there's not a big price difference is the thing. So that's the main reason. I would say, even if you are maybe in the more casual demographic and you happen upon this podcast I don't know how many casual users happen upon the same group of podcasts but if you do, you might think about waiting for the S25 anyway, because this one is not priced a lot cheaper. If this one was like $500, that would be one thing, but it's $650.
Speaker 1:And the regular S25 will be $799 probably so after your trade-in unless you need a phone right now, like if your phone is broken, then that's one thing, but if your phone is not broken, there's nothing wrong with it. You could wait. The other two pieces of hardware I have is one. I'm could wait. Um, the other two pieces of hardware I have is one. I'm not going to hold this up the whole time because it's just too damn heavy. But let's have us an ultra, which we already kind of showed off here. Um, this thing is absolute beast. I mean, I don't really have a lot to say about this other than you know it's really really nice and the screen is less reflective. You guys can probably see they put the anti-glare on it, not the same as the S24 Ultra, but there's an anti-glare on here that reduces the reflections. But the thing is it's not really that much different than the Tab S9 Ultra. There's a new processor in here. They went with MediaTek instead of Snapdragon and that was the main change that they made. From what I can tell, there are really no performance changes.
Speaker 1:I've ran games on it. I've multitasked, like I did with the Tab S9 Ultra. I use that every day too. I've always used my tablet. As I said before, I just don't take it anywhere. It's too heavy. I carry my iPad 11 inches my main, especially now the Samsung guy. I was thinking about getting the smaller Tab S10, and so I could be all Samsung, but then they deleted it from the lineup so I'm still carrying the 11-inch M4 iPad Pro.
Speaker 1:It's just way lighter and smaller and for most tablet-y things I want to do it's better. This is great, just sitting at my desk, answer socials, take notes, whatever. Watch some media. If I want to watch some YouTube clips, it's good for researching videos I want to do, but it's not great for portability. It's too big. But I have noticed no issues with the media attack processor, no problems there. The build and everything pretty much hasn't really changed at all. So there's really not a lot to say. The biggest thing I would say is, if you really find your tab s9 ultra is just like too reflective, this one is a big change there. It's a lot less reflective if you use it in bright areas, but, um, otherwise there's like no reason to upgrade from a tab s9 ultra unless you're like me and you're like you can make money off the upgrade like why would you?
Speaker 1:it's like, why would you do it? I, if you have an older tablet, sure, but there really is not much of any difference. The performance is very similar. On the day-to-day usage Benchmarks who cares? Benchmarks don't really matter about day-to-day use. When I'm talking about telling someone if they should buy it or not, we post benchmarks on the site. But if I'm telling you if you should upgrade the benchmarks, benchmarks really don't matter because it's about how it performs in the day-to-day. It's about the same. It's not any crazy better or anything, just the anti-reflective screen. I'd say that's the main key thing. That I would say is a reason to consider upgrading. But it's not enough that I would spend Because, like I said, if you trade in a Tavis 9 Ultra and you want to get the base model, I guess in that case it's only $299, but I wouldn't even spend $299 just for the display. If you use it indoors, who cares really about the anti-reflective display?
Speaker 2:I probably already know the answer to this, but could you run Microsoft Office or anything?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2:My follow-up question would be with Surface Pro being out for a while and I know that's a pretty pricey price tag, you know, over the Surface Pro, but maybe for the 1100 model would you, or which one you think would be more bang for your buck, getting the Surface Pro, the latest one or that?
Speaker 1:I mean, it really depends on, I guess, what you want to do, right? I mean, the service pro is always going to be better for content creation. If you want, for content consumption, though, this is better because it's got a better display I mean, the ammo display is beautiful, it's anti-reflective it's just an overall better panel for watching like videos and stuff netflix, youtube, whatever, um, but obviously if you need to do like creation, you can't run like adobe premiere pro on here, like if you need to watching videos and stuff Netflix, youtube, whatever but obviously if you need to do creation, you can't run Adobe Premiere Pro on here.
Speaker 1:If you need to edit videos and stuff, you're going to need a full laptop. The better competitor for that would be and that's a good segue the Galaxy Book 5 Pro 360, which I also got at the same time that I picked up the Galaxy S24 FE and the Tav S10 Ultra. This is the Book 5 Pro 360.
Speaker 2:And yes.
Speaker 1:I still have the Galaxy Book Edge. This is the thinnest 360 Book Pro that Samsung ever released. It is not as thin as the Galaxy Book Edge and it's not quite as light, but it's only like half a pound heavier. But this one does have the Intel Core 7 Ultra in it, so actual Intel and not Snapdragon chips. So that means this can actually run everything that you want, like Google Drive desktop. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, that's what we like, right away it actually has some power for video editing.
Speaker 1:Now I still like the Snapdragon Elite Galaxy Book Edge and I'll tell you this one battery life's not as good. Of course, that's the main reason I haven't used Windows laptops as my primary and why I use my MacBook. The battery life has never been as good on Windows laptops. That laptop over there the Edge gets close to my MacBook. This one still it's good. It's better than you know older Windows laptops that I've owned and that I have, but it's still. The battery life is not quite where the MacBook is, but the performance on this is better. The screen is better. There's some slight differences in the screen. Obviously, the chip architecture. This one is much more for creating. You can use this for creating on the go. Plus, this one has the S Pen. It comes in the box with it and this one actually has touchscreen and you can write on it with the S Pen, just like you can your tablet or your phone.
Speaker 2:But you need to carry the S Pen separately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you can stick it to the side, but mostly people carry it separately and you can fold this back. That's why it's called a 360. It actually folds back entirely with the hinge. You can use it in tent mode if you want to watch videos. It's a very, very versatile laptop. Very nice piece of hardware. I mean, I think Samsung's laptops are highly underrated.
Speaker 2:I talked about it a lot. I don't know very many people who do buy Samsung laptops. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I mean, honestly, if I didn't love my MacBook, the MacBook Pro is just. I mean, I know people don't like Apple because it's the Samsung podcast, but you've got to give Apple props to the MacBook and the Silicon, their laptop. I can get like 16 hours off of a charger and that's editing 4K video and doing all of my stuff that's insane.
Speaker 1:I can't even get. Maybe on the Edge I can get nine. That's still almost half and that one doesn't't have. Maybe that laptop has maybe 10 of the power of my macbook pro. So you know I'm getting twice as much battery life with 10 times the power. I mean it's hard to switch from the macbook pro.
Speaker 1:As a creator because I edit video. I do so many things. If I didn't have to edit video and have the crazy battery life on the go, I could use this in my daily laptop. Windows has actually gotten to the point where I could use it as my daily driver. It's just the MacBook Pro hardware and the battery life combination is so good. Maybe eventually Windows will get there. I'm not opposed and actually for my day-to-day integration it'd be better because I use Samsung as my main phone, my tablet, right now at work. But I have to switch the iPhone to do some stuff with the Mac, like if I want to get photos over. Then I wouldn't have to worry about the integration because I have phone link on here. It pairs my Samsung phone to my Windows and I can text message from there.
Speaker 1:I can actually browse my phone and use phone apps, android apps on here. Great laptop, I would say. If you are in the Samsung ecosystem and you're not like a crazy power video editing stuff like I do, buy this. It's great. It's like $1,600.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's going to be my follow-up.
Speaker 1:I mean, this is almost the tablet is almost as expensive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and this has got way more that's why it's crazy.
Speaker 1:It's like this is cool, but this is like a toy. That's why it's crazy. It's like this is cool, but this is like a toy, whereas this is actual tool that you could do all of your stuff with, and you have the S Pen here too. Like you don't lose the S Pen, you still get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that, I like that, so like this is like great.
Speaker 1:I mean, obviously, if you have both. One other thing you can do if you have both is you can use this couch. So I have two displays. I have the tablet.
Speaker 2:But I mean, not everyone has the luxury of having a $1,600 tablet to go with their $1,600 laptop.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, if you do, there's a great integration between the Samsung products and they do work. But it's like if you have to choose one, obviously you should get the laptop, not the tablet, because they're almost the same price.
Speaker 2:No, just to follow up, just kind of thinking about that and I haven't explored anything in the Samsung realm of laptops, but kind of thinking for, just like our average consumers as well in the Samsung ecosystem, if someone was wanting to maybe at some point get a Samsung laptop, what would be, you think, a consumer-friendly option to go with?
Speaker 1:I mean I honestly I think, once they fix some of the compatibility issues with the apps, for most average users, that laptop over there the one I've been using in the podcast for the last five months, the snapdragon x elite version or the galaxy book edge is amazing because it's a way cheaper than this one now. I think it's like 1100 or100 or $1,000. And that's like right around the. So then you actually get into the comparison of well it's and I know people are going to mention this you can't compare the Galaxy Book Edge to the MacBook Pro, which I know I did earlier, because their one is $4,500, my MacBook and the Galaxy Book Edge is $1,000. If you compare it to the MacBook Air, the Galaxy Book's Edge is actually pretty one for one Again, except the MacBook Air has a pretty big battery life advantage because of Apple Silicon, but performance-wise pretty close. So I would say, like if you're a college student or you're just a casual user who's not doing much video editing, you're mainly doing web browsing, you know excel, that stuff. The galaxy book edge is a way to go. They've had sales that brought it down to like eight or nine hundred some places I saw best buy.
Speaker 1:Um, this one would be more like if you are doing light video editing like photoshop, uh, if you have like a little more serious, like this is you're going to be your work laptop and your personal like.
Speaker 1:If you have a job that definitely needs some kinds of software and you have to do some creation and stuff, you want to buy this one for sure. But if you're just doing it for your personal stuff, like photos, maybe you just use like Adobe Lightroom or something in the browser and you're mainly doing browser based and like spreadsheets, word processing, like college stuff, buy that one and they have education discounts at Samsung. But make sure you go to our affiliate link on sammygurucom on the page. You go to our affiliate link on sammygurucom on the page. That's about the book edge. We have a link that in the description. If you do want to buy one, you could make us some money and then we'll be able to keep doing this podcast, because we take a lot of time to prepare this podcast and, to be honest with you, the podcast doesn't make that much money yet this is one thing the podcast still loses a little money, but I'm dedicated to it, I believe, in the long run.
Speaker 1:So we're going to keep doing it and I just enjoy talking to Tori for an hour and a half every week, but you know we could always use that extra money to make the podcast profitable.
Speaker 1:Let's finish off with some questions. I saw one earlier which I'll answer. I don't know if I even saw any others. Oh, and I'll talk about this. Someone said how's the health tracking between the Samsung ring and watch? Which one's more accurate? I think I addressed this briefly on a past episode. I think if you have them in tandem, that improves the accuracy, but I think the watch is probably better for most things, whereas the ring is better for sleep.
Speaker 2:So like the ring is better for sleep, obviously.
Speaker 1:That's what it's optimized for, um, and I think also um. Actually I was gonna have my wife agree that she would do the. I've wanted to do this but I obviously can't write this article. There's no, I don't know anyone who's done it is estimate the cycle tracking capability of the watch in the ring for women, because obviously women make up more than 50 of the world they're actually the majority.
Speaker 1:That's an important feature and I can't really cover that because obviously I don't have the ability to cover it, but nicole told me she would try to help me with that, so try to write that up. I don't know how many ladies listen to the show, but I think that'll get a lot of interest on google search because I bet a lot of women look for that. I haven't seen the other articles dedicate the attention to it, so probably because a lot of websites don't have a female writer who could or would be willing to delve into the feature. But I found that the watch is probably better for a lot of things. But if you do have them both, that definitely increases the accuracy of the step counting, which is definitely the shortcoming of the watches Tori and I talked about in the beginning.
Speaker 1:They need to improve that, either the software or the sensors on the hardware for next year. But I mean overall, I find to be pretty good. The other thing that I wanted to address is this I made this post about the oleophobic coating on the Samsung Galaxy phones. This is something that has bothered me for a long time, is one of the issues that I say exists with Samsung phones. You may have seen this tutorial because you have a phone that's a couple years old.
Speaker 1:Samsung's only phobic coding is not that good. If you own a phone for at least nine months, it's going to look like a smudgy mess anytime you use the phone for more than like two minutes and it doesn't matter if you wipe it down all the time. It doesn't matter if you wash your hands all the time. It's not because my hands are dirty. I posted this picture on x and I got some people I had to, you know, block because they were saying dumb things and like oh, that's hand lotion. Ha ha, it's not, it's. I use the phone for two minutes. It always looks like that. I could wash my hands literally 10 times before you always have oil on your hand, doesn't matter how many times you wash them, and the oleophobic coating is supposed to make sure those don't show up.
Speaker 1:Samsung, whatever they do to laminate their displays and the oleophobic coating on their glass is not as good as other OEMs. I hate to say it, but Apple, xiaomi, google I use all these other brands never seen this happen, even after a few years of use, whereas the Samsung phones after nine months I've owned this phone since January it looks like this. Now a lot of people are saying, oh well, it must be your phone or whatever. It's not. There's a bunch of people. If you read through the hair, this one got a lot of impressions. It's got 84 likes, eight bookmarks, a bunch of retweets and a bunch of people replying saying, yeah, the same thing happened to me.
Speaker 1:Have you seen this story on your, yeah yeah, yeah, I was trying to call Samsung to be better, and people are trying to just pretend that there's not an issue.
Speaker 1:There's definitely an issue here. No, there is. Now, don't feel bad for me. As I said, I'm in a good position. I have three S24 Ultras, so I just put my SIM in a different one. The one I took a picture of on Twitter is my titanium one. I used that one since January. This orange one I bought to actually run the 7.0 beta, but now it's not even coming until December, so I just took my main SIM and popped it over here. Now I've got no oleophobic issues because this one is basically brand new and this one will be good until I get my S25. So don't cry for me. You don't need to cry for me River.
Speaker 2:I'm good trying to advocate.
Speaker 1:People are commenting like I've got a solution. You could apply oleophobic solution from Amazon. I know all that stuff. I'm not going to do that because I have a fresh phone right here. I don't need to.
Speaker 1:But I was trying to advocate for the average consumer who doesn't have three $1,300 S24 Ultras they could rotate between, because it's annoying. This is the main one I used for the last nine months and now I can't really use it. It's actually very annoying to use it. So that's why I switched to the orange one. I didn't want to, because it's a pain to switch between the two phones as my main one, because I've got to move my messages and everything over. It's not as easy as you'd think because even though my accounts are logged in the call history and all that stuff, I've got to migrate between there, which isn't necessarily always attached to the SIM.
Speaker 1:So, to answer some of the questions that were on this thread no, it is not grease, it is not lotion. My hands were not dirty. I do use some cleaner. It's called Woosh Cleaner, but it's non-alcohol, non-ammonia-based cleaner. Some people were saying maybe you used a harsh chemical cleaner, Did not? Woosh is completely safe. I use it on all my other phones. I love Samsung, Obviously. I just want them to be better. So I mean I wouldn't go around slandering Samsung, saying this is a problem with Samsung and not other OEMs, because of course I want Samsung to be the best, but the fact is I've never seen this happen on any other phone that I own.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I think and we talked about this maybe two or three podcasts before, but I mean for an average consumer, when you're buying this, this is an investment, at least for five years, you know, like most keep them around like at the tail end of five, but maybe three, you know, because now all these services, yeah, I think three to five years is probably pretty.
Speaker 1:You know people also comment sometimes and say, well, five years, there's no one keeps their phone five years. You'd be surprised actually you would be surprised how many people have their phone for five not only five, but seven years.
Speaker 2:Yes, I see a lot of people still using galaxy s8s.
Speaker 1:So all of you guys who are enthusiasts, some of you are not quite in touch with reality I sometimes I'm not either. Where you're like, oh, tori has an S20 Ultra. That's a super old phone, no it isn't. It's not that old there are people still rocking Galaxy S8s on the regular? I promise you so. It's not that old to say five to seven years. Some people do keep their phone that long. If you were using this at the tail end of five years, what is it going to look like? This is after nine months.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm trying to advocate for the people who are spending their money on this. Who?
Speaker 1:don't have money, exactly who don't have the luxury of having a bunch of devices because they do it for a living, like I do. It's great for me, don't? I mean, I wasn't putting this out there to get sympathy for me. I just pop it into a new phone and I'm good to go. It's a little inconvenient, but I don't have to go out and spend a whole bunch more money because I already have these ones for testing. Anyway, I want to talk about that because this one kind of blew up and a lot of people chiming in about how I had lotion and stuff in my hands which I don't. No, lotion, nothing, that's just oil. The oleophobic coating is pretty much worn off over time. Anyway, the oleophobic coating is pretty much worn off over time. Anyway, I think that's pretty much it. Anything else, tori, that you want to add for this week? No, I'm going to go out there and I might freeze to death.
Speaker 2:It's probably like 69 degrees here, because it's already 6 pm. I don't even have a jacket and you've got shorts and flip-flops on and the flippies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm probably going to have to mosey over to urgent care get that taken care of Along the way, and before I do that, though, I'll remind you guys this week keep expanding your galaxy.