SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
SammyGuru with Jeff Springer
One UI 7.0 Hands On Impressions - SDC 2024 Recap
Embark on an exclusive journey with us as we recount the thrills and revelations from the Samsung Developer Conference in San Jose. Picture this: a bustling conference hall, unexpected scoops, and the unveiling of One UI 7.0—all set against the vibrant backdrop of high-stakes tech reporting. Amidst juggling podcast schedules and attracting waves of new followers, the experience was an adrenaline rush, marked by beating the big names to the punch with our early access insights.
The conference was a symphony of surprises, from extravagant spreads to tantalizing tech reveals. Securing a front-row seat at the keynote was just the beginning. Samsung's JH Hahn laid out an ambitious "AI for All" roadmap, pointing to exciting AI integrations. As I navigated coding labs and demo stations, the thrill of discovering devices running the elusive One UI 7.0 was unmatched. Join us as we capture the essence of these dynamic moments and the unexpected connections, like teaming up with Neil over an ice cream bar, to explore the new features stealthily.
Amidst the tech buzz, our reflections extend to Samsung's innovations in the realm of smart appliances, imagining festive futures enhanced by intelligent fridges and seamless smart home integration. Plus, don’t miss our upcoming conversation with tech aficionado Max Weinbach, as we delve into the competitive landscape between titans like Apple and Samsung. With an eye on tech's evolving horizons, we promise engaging discussions and fresh perspectives from intriguing guests, bringing you the inside scoop on all things tech.
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Welcome back everybody. This is episode number 16 of the Sammy Guru podcast. My name is Jeff Springer and with me, as always, is my co-host, tori. Tori say hi, hey, how's it going? And I just got back from the Samsung Developer Conference in San Jose and it was quite a show. We're going to talk today just pretty much about my experience at the show. So those who follow me, who are new followers, welcome to the show. If you're listening for the first time, I know between the last 24 hours I got like 900 new followers on X, tons of new subscribers on YouTube. The website's got a bunch of traffic because we broke some huge news at the Samsung Developer Conference. So I'm going to talk about the experience of the trip, how I found One UI 7.0 running on some devices. But before we get into that, tori, how was?
Speaker 1:your week.
Speaker 2:You know it has been a very busy where we have fall break next week. So I'm on fall break now. I made it through, but at a price of staying up late to work on grades. Getting grades in, uh that is.
Speaker 1:I think grading is probably one of the least fun parts of teaching yeah, grading and evaluation in general yeah I mean it's nice when you're giving the exam, because that day you don't have to do anything I mean it's like it's always nice when you go in the exam day, like I get the day off, sort of, yeah, which is nice.
Speaker 1:I do kind of miss that, because she's like with sammy guru, I don't ever get the day off, sort of which is nice. I do kind of miss that, because she's like with Sammy Guru, I don't ever get the day off where I can just go in and be like hey, I get to sit here today and, just like you know, people are just going to be doing work and I'm going to be chilling. Usually, though, you're doing some planning and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's still nice to have that day where you know you've got some time to what else you been up to anything else, just grading probably yeah, yeah, just grading and physics. My exam one this yeah coming week, so uh all the class you're taking right, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I have that, then a quince tomorrow and another one, uh, the next weekend, um, but you know, I'm really looking to just relax there. You go, go, just relax and chill. I need to rejuvenate, that's the key, yeah.
Speaker 1:We actually recorded. So, interestingly enough, we recorded episode 15.
Speaker 1:And it hasn't been posted yet. So it's going to be kind of weird because this is episode 16, but it's actually going to be posted as episode 15. And then episode 15 will be posted as episode 16. The reason for that is one I just got back from SDC and I figured this is topical. People want to hear about it right now, since there's a lot to talk about with OneUI 7.0 and the stuff I found there, and then the other podcast we did.
Speaker 1:That was actually originally episode 15, we did that with Max Weinbach. We actually did it earlier this week, yeah, uh, and I was going to edit it while I was in san jose, but then crazy stuff happened and I couldn't. So I was going to delay it anyway, but since that one's not time sensitive, I figured I could post it next week. Uh, and I'll also be going to vegas next week. So then tori and I don't have to like log on and do it remotely. We can just wait and I can post the one with Max next week. So if you guys are waiting, max Weinbach did join us. We had a great time. Did you have a?
Speaker 2:good time talking to Max. I had a really great time. I'm super excited for you guys to see it once it comes out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we learned a lot of cool stuff about.
Speaker 1:AI Max is a very, very big expert in the AI field in terms of he knows a lot about not necessarily all the back-end stuff, but he knows enough of the back-end stuff and also the intuition of how people use it, and he has a lot of really good insights in terms of how the tech meets the needs of the user. And we talked a little bit about Apple versus Samsung and what Samsung is doing right, what Samsung is doing wrong and if there's anything that they could do better, particularly when it comes to AI, but also with regard to devices and things. Tori, you've been holding down the giveaways for the website while it's gone so thanks for that.
Speaker 1:People still able to get their giveaway entries while I was traveling, because I definitely would have forgotten to do them if Tori wasn't taking care of that. So if you guys enjoy the daily giveaway opportunities, then you can thank Tori, because I would have forgot while I was in San Jose, that's almost for sure. So let's go ahead and talk about it. I briefly told Tori the story, but I'm basically going to be telling Tori the story as I tell you guys, because I haven't told him the whole details.
Speaker 1:This is my first San Diego Samsung Developer Conference, sd. So I said San Diego. I think when I was there too, I was like SD, I always think San Diego, samsung Developer Conference, sdc. It's the first time I ever went, which is surprising.
Speaker 1:But remember, you guys have to remember I taught as a professor before I did this whole time and this is usually in the beginning of October, Like that's right around like exam time. I can't be like just leaving, like my students be like oh yeah, I'm just going to go for three days to California. So when I, when this wasn't my full time job, I never went because I didn't really have the opportunity and I wasn't like a rude professor I'm not going to leave my students there to review with a sub or something for their exam. I just wouldn't do that kind of thing, even though I could have gone and I would have went. So this is my first time going.
Speaker 1:I flew on Wednesday evening. I got there at like 7 o'clock California time, checked into my hotel. There was a lot of talk from various leakers, including Ice Universe. People were saying that we probably wouldn't see any One UI 7.0 stuff. So my morale was a little low because I was like, hey, I decided this last minute. So luckily my wife is very understanding and supportive of what we're doing with the business and she supports me. I felt really bad because I decided this last Thursday at the last minute that I was going to go to SDC.
Speaker 1:And that's kind of late notice when you have two kids right, because if you've got two small kids, you know your partner's then got to take care of all of their stuff and we have a baby and a toddler those are distinct need sets and my son's in school. So I'm like, do you mind? You know, can you handle it? Is it going to be cool if I go? And she's like, yeah, go do it. If it's going to be good for the business, you know, go. And I was like, okay, well, I'm just going to go for basically 48 hours and really only going to be gone like less than 48 hours. So my morale was low Cause it's like I just spent 1500 bucks, came here, there's probably going to be no mobile news. I'm going to show up. It's going to be about refrigerators and ovens and all that stuff, by the way have you ever seen?
Speaker 1:we'll talk a little bit about some of the other stuff I saw later in the show, once we get past the big stuff, cause wasn't one UI 7.0. It's just that we got so much traffic and so many people were. I mean, I was getting like at one point like hundreds of tweets like every minute and I couldn't reply to people. I'm sorry if someone tweeted me if you're, if you're like a longtime follower and I didn't see your tweet.
Speaker 1:It wasn't on purpose. There's all these new people following me and just they're asking me questions Some people very rudely, by the way, which I don't appreciate. We can appreciate, we'll talk about that later. Some people just like post stuff and I'm like, hey, I'm not an animal man, calm down. Yeah, anyway, um, we talked about that. Have you ever seen the connected refrigerators that can like, uh, samsung has refrigerators where it can? It can tell you, like if you're at the grocery store, how much milk you have, down to like the fraction of an ounce no, we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really cool. I feel like I buy multiple things because I'm like do I have that? Yeah, I'm already at walmart or target I mean presumably.
Speaker 1:Hopefully it would save you a lot of money, because the refrigerator costs like five thousand dollars so it would need to save you a lot of money over time to pay for itself because otherwise it's about 3 500 to 4 000 more than a regular refrigerator.
Speaker 1:Regular refrigerator is like 800 to 1,000 bucks, so it's like four or five times the cost, but it is really cool and I saw some other demos with that too Anyway got up in the morning on Thursday which was yesterday at like 7 o'clock Because usually when I go to shows like CES as well I'm always itching to get there, because I'm the kind of guy like I don't like to be Like rushed and I also necessarily don't like huge crowds People which isn't great for like tech shows because there's huge Crowds of people so I like to be like one of the First people through registration. It's like I'm not fighting and also I can get in there and also thinking like you know, maybe they're going to have Some kind of breakfast. I figure it wouldn't be kind of extravagant, but I figured they might have something.
Speaker 2:It's Samsung, they're a multi, almost trillion dollar company.
Speaker 1:They can probably afford to have a little bit of breakfast. So I didn't get any breakfast from the hotel and I walked over to the engine center. It was only like a quarter mile from my hotel. I got up and showered, walked over. The doors were supposed to open at 8.30. So I figured a lot of people would be there right around 8.30. I got there at 8.25. There's like no one there except the Samsung employees. So I guess everybody else who comes maybe had come before. Other journalists and developers probably knew maybe like Samsung is kind of slow with the rollout. So I got up there and they're like we're not ready, you can't come in until like 8.40. And I was like but it says 830 and they're like well, we're a little behind, and so I was like, okay, so I sit outside of the convention center they have a really cool banner.
Speaker 1:I'll put the picture up here. I'll put them in as I talk, some pictures that I took so you guys can see. I took a lot of pictures of various things, took a selfie outside with the SDC, the Samsung logo, in the background and they have like a little cool blob emoji that is like one of the mascots of SDC. I took a picture with that in the background and took a picture of it, you know, just by itself, and then just kind of waited super hot there, by the way. I thought I was getting a break, you know, usually like the Bay area is like a lot cooler than Phoenix.
Speaker 1:And so when we landed, I was like, let me check out the weather, it's probably going to be like in San Jose. I was like, man, it's only, it's 109 in Phoenix, it's not that far off Like I thought it was going to be in the 70s here, like when I usually go to San Jose, like it's cool in San Jose or San Francisco, it's cool in both of those, which is, you know, really weird. Anyway, I was standing out there in the heat because it's already pretty high. It wasn't 102 at that, that was the high, but it was probably like close to 90 degrees at that time of the morning, even because it was so warm. And so then I go in there at 840 and they're like okay, you can go ahead and scan, got my badge and all that stuff, and they give some nice swag. I'll put some pictures too, because some people wanted to see some of the swag. I actually lost a piece of my swag in the shuffle of all the crazy coverage. I lost a really nice piece, which I'll talk about later. They gave us stickers, a tote bag that has a Samsung developer conference logo on it.
Speaker 1:Then there was keychains everywhere. I got five or six keychains. Samsung loves keychains. I guess they had a station where you could make your own keychain with. I guess they had a station where you could make your own keychain with the SDC logos. They had older ladies who are like I guess it's their hobby ironing on patches, like you do for Girl Scout or Boy Scout vests. You have the patches you iron onto the vest. They had little patches with the SDC logo and you could pick the ones you want. And there was two older middle-aged whatever it is. It was their hobby. They were sitting there. I guess they volunteered they weren't. Samsung employees must have been local and that you hand them the patches and the keychain, they would iron them on in real time. So I got that one.
Speaker 1:There was a bead one, where you could make your own with beads and then they had like six, you know like four other ones they gave out at the various stations. So I have, like I don't need to buy a keychain for a long time.
Speaker 1:I might even throw some in the mystery boxes because I have a couple of the duplicates, so they gave us some swag. I went up to the area upstairs, which is where the conference actually was, and they had breakfast area and I was blown away by the breakfast area. It was befitting of a billion-dollar, almost trillion-dollar company. I was impressed the breakfast area was legit. Um, they had like I mean it wasn't like hot breakfast, but they had everything you could want. Like they got donuts of like every type. I mean like if you want a donut, they had it like the guy cruelers like tiger tails.
Speaker 1:They got, you know, bear claws, claws. Cream-filled donuts, chocolate cream-filled, strawberry cream-filled, like jelly donut. They got everything in donuts. And then, not only that, they got bagels. They got like seven to ten different types of bagels. They got like five different kinds of croissants. They've got all kinds of fresh fruit. They've got like a drink bar with 20 different kinds of drink.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow.
Speaker 1:They had entire individual cartons of milk. They were in cartons like you could get your own carton of milk. Uh, it was like a large one too. I don't know how much it was because I didn't look at the actual volume, but it was large. Juice, apple juice, every soda you could want. They had pepsi and coke. Like this was like it was legit. And that that's not even the end of the food story I'll tell you guys, there was.
Speaker 2:There was more food throughout the day which.
Speaker 1:I did, yeah, I did partake in in more of the food. I usually I've been on a diet so I usually haven't been eating garbage, but because I was covering all the seven dollars stuff, I probably ate too much garbage. At the conference and they had such amazing. The food they catered was impressive, but the breakfast was kind of the start of that. So then I walk over and I sitting like in the meeting area they have like a place where you can do some work. So I'm like sending some tweets, interacting with some followers who want to, you know, and also just kind of engaging with people, showing some of the pictures I had already taken. I don't think I took a picture of the breakfast, cause I was at that time I was thinking about the conference and other stuff, but I wish I had in retrospect gotten a picture of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would have loved to have seen that.
Speaker 1:I sat down on that side and then right in front of me is the lady I forgot her last name. I feel bad, but Sally is her name, that's what she goes by. She is like the head of One UI design and she's sitting there with a stack of papers and a computer, talking to a colleague. So I sent a tweet and I'm like I just saw Sally. She has her one UI seven oh speech prepared. It looks really long, it looks like we're in for a crazy day. So that got a lot of reactions. And then I was like no, I'm just kidding, but she does it, she did. I'm like I did see her when she has a stack of papers and so that I I'm like all right, let's go inside.
Speaker 1:I go inside because I assume some people are like going to go in the keynote. They open the keynote at like 9, 15 or 9, 20, um, the keynote room. They wouldn't let anyone who wasn't a samsung employee in before that. But uh, they opened it up and I figured there'd be like a lot of journalists like in the front row. So I was like I want to get in the front row too. I'll try, and I go in there like no one. So I'm like, well, I can just go and get the best seat.
Speaker 1:So I asked the lady who was like the staff is like in front of the seating. I'm like, can we go in Because there's no one here, like, is it okay? And she's like, yeah, go ahead, get whatever seat you want. So I sit dead center front row, right right there. Maybe they all think there's going to be no 7.0 news today, so that's fine. So I wait. The keynote starts. Jh Hahn comes out. He talks about the overall vision of the conference. The name of the conference was AI for All, so we already knew it was going to be a lot about AI, which we talked about last week, I think on the podcast or when you and I last chatted.
Speaker 1:We expect that.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of AI stuff, but I still thought that meant that we could have a lot of One UI stuff, because Galaxy AI is obviously in One UI, so it would make sense still to talk about One UI Plus. They've talked about One UI every year at SDC since it started. Ten years ago is when they started this conference every year. So a couple people come out I think Sally's like third, everyone's hyped. I'm tweeting like sally's here, let's go. Everyone on twitter is super hyped, getting excited about it, and she's like. She's like I bet you guys all know what I'm here to talk about and everybody in the audience is like whoa, yeah. And then she's like one ui 7.0 is our next version of our mobile os and it's coming in beta form later this year, by the end of 2024.
Speaker 1:And everyone like the room like the air just got taken out of the room she's like, but I want to share a few details with you today, and she talked about three main tenets that have the new design. One they're going to redesign the home screen so that you can make it easier to place icons and how to customize your icon grid. Two, so that you can make it easier to place icons and how to customize your icon grid. Two, they're going to change the animations, make it more fluid, that kind of stuff. And three, they're going to make it more emotive. Samsung loves using words like that to evoke emotion. By that I think they're meaning changing the blur and the way the animations interact and go, how things pop in and out of the screen, which is something Galaxy users have wanted for a long time. But then you know it doesn't.
Speaker 1:But then you know, that was great, that was like the positive news. She told us some of the things that we were already expecting, even though they weren't details, they were very vague, so people were disappointed about that. But then she's like, yeah, the beta later, this by the end of the year, and the stable version not coming until the next galaxy hardware early 2025, and then everyone's just everyone on twitter and x is mad because they're like, oh no we're not even going to get the stable version at all on the phones from 2024 um before the next release.
Speaker 1:So basically, if you want one ui7 the earliest you can get it you've got to buy galaxy s25.
Speaker 1:There's no choice, because otherwise they're going to wait, just like 6.1.1, they don't roll it out to the previous earphones until after it's already on the new ones. So everyone's upset about that and she's like, well, that's all I have to share for you guys, have a great day. So it's like three minutes. I took some really nice photos, they're like, but I shared those on x and I was like, yeah, here's some photos from the three minutes. I took some really nice photos, they're like, but I shared those on x and I was like, yeah, here's some photos from the three minutes of one ui seven stuff, literally in the keynote so then the rest of the time, you know they just have a bunch more speakers and they're all talking about stuff.
Speaker 1:I'm listening because you know I'm interested in other tech stuff, but like a lot of it's stuff that you know it's not like super exciting. Like one of the guys is out there to talk about like how AI can impact digital signage. It's like digital signage, like I mean, how many people care about digital signage? I mean digital signage. I guess that's cool if you need to buy digital signage for your business, but I already have a wooden sign back here. I don't need digital signage. I like my wooden sign just fine for now, and we don't service customers, so I don't need digital signage. And then he talked about appliances. I listened to that a little bit because I do like the connected refrigerators. They talked a little bit about their new technology with SmartThings that will allow YouTube music to synchronize with your smart lighting so that you can actually have your lights change as your music goes oh, that would be really cool.
Speaker 2:I feel like people would really like that Boom chick boom, chick boom.
Speaker 1:Everybody scream. The lights will change. They already have the ability to do that with your TV, to match the TV with the lighting. They introduced that at CES Actually, I was at that press conference a few years ago and so now they have the smart lighting syncing with your audio too. It only works with YouTube music, not with Spotify or anything else. Yet that's because they have a strong partnership with Google, and so I actually stopped by that station, which I'll talk about in a second. That was actually so. All these people came out. I listened briefly, I took a few more pictures, but really nothing else about mobile. A few other things about smart things, a couple other things about Galaxy AI. They did say that they're now renaming all of their operating systems to One UI, so, like the operating system on, everything will be called that. It's only been for mobile in the past, but now refrigerators, washing machines everything will run one UI.
Speaker 2:Do they give a reason for that?
Speaker 1:I think it's just yeah, they're basically saying to make it more uniform to have more brand identity. So people know if they hear one UI. It's like that's Samsung.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they wanted to create some brand I like that, yeah, that's a good move.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then they talked a lot about privacy, of ai and stuff, which is all important, but unfortunately, as a site that covers like consumer tech mainly and that's how we get our clicks and our hits in the interest, does it not like this exciting stories to write. Now, if we had a full team, people ask me, like, why don't you write some of those smaller stories? Well, it's obvious. I think about it from a business perspective. I got a very small team right now. It's me and Sumit. Basically we have a couple of part-time writers.
Speaker 1:Tori contributed a review. He does other stuff for the site, but we have a small team right now in terms of the content team on Sammy Guru and, of course, I make all the video content. So if you have a small team, you can't cover all those small stories because you're taking away the chance of covering stuff that has higher value. It's not about the fact that I don't want to cover everything. Obviously, android, authority, sam mobile they can cover everything because they got like 15 to 20 writers that are writing content. If I had 20 writers, I would cover every single text story that had the word samsung in it, because I just, I just like each of you write five articles, or write a hundred articles a day if necessary, if there's that much stuff to cover.
Speaker 1:And then you know, someone can do long form, but I mean we don't. We didn't have that many people. So we have to cover what's like really near and dear to people's hearts in terms of what people are interested in, and our audience is mainly mobile. So me it's been covering some TV stuff too, and I like TVs and I like smart home. So we will try to cover that. As we expand our writer base, you know we will cover more stuff. It's not like I'm not going to cover other Samsung products, but these are the things that get the most interest.
Speaker 1:So the keynote ends and it's like 1120. It's about an hour and 20 minutes, cause it started at 10 AM. It at 10 am. It's like okay, what am I going to do now? So I look at the schedule. There's a lot of cool stuff to do. So I was like I was going to go back to the hotel, but I'm like no, I flew all the way here, I spent a lot of money. I'm not going to go back to the hotel and work, because I could do that in Phoenix. I might as well stay.
Speaker 1:They had some cool stuff where you could win prizes. They had all these stations that had numbers and if you visit each station, there was a samsung employee who had a qr code around their neck and if you visited the station and actually partook in the station, you could scan the qr code and get some points and then, if you get a certain number of points, you can go and trade it in at the giveaway station. There was a giveaway desk and you could collect one of three prizes. You you could get a keychain, but they were already giving away a bunch of keychains for free Another keychain.
Speaker 1:It was a little nicer keychain, but I was like I don't want that because I'm already getting it. I already saw that they gave me a bunch in the original swag bag.
Speaker 2:And is there another keychain?
Speaker 1:No, no, the next one you could get was a water bottle, a tumbler like one of those insulated ones. I was like I'll take that. That's the one I was going to get. That was the middle one is 1500 points. And then the last one was a charging pad with the SDC logo. I was like I got 15,000 charging pads.
Speaker 2:I was like I.
Speaker 1:The SDC logo on it is cool but like, what am I going to do with it? I already have so many. I was like I might even use that, so I'll get that. So I went around, did a lot of the bingo stuff. I saw some cool stations, including the one with smart things and the music sync between the YouTube music, like I told you about. I talked to the Samsung employees about the stuff, tried to learn some stuff. We'll probably write a story about that too, because I thought it was kind of interesting how they integrated that with YouTube music and some of those things. I stopped by the android automotive station. Um, they actually had an audi and you know I have an audi.
Speaker 1:So yeah, they had an audi in there like actual car on the convention center floor. And that's because samsung is partnering with harman kardon, which does the a lot of the audio for audi and other car brands, to make a third-party app store for android automotive. And I actually learned something because I didn't know the 2025 audis run android automotive. You might not know this story, you probably know about android auto.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what it lets you mirror your phone, but android automotive is actually means the computer on your car is now running android, so you no longer need to mirror your phone. As soon as you pair it via bluetooth, all of your contacts and stuff will sync and you basically have a full version of android on your car. So when I found this out, I was like told the guy like hey, well, man, that's terrible because I spent a lot of money to come here, not to spend more money because I want to upgrade my car to the 2025 model right, I was like you guys are making me waste even more money here, because I really want Android Automotive.
Speaker 1:I want it since I saw it. I actually saw Android Automotive a long time ago when it first was announced by Google, because I went to Google IO another conference in 2018. And that's when they first showed it off in a Volvo and I was like man, when that comes to a car that I like I'm going to get that. It took seven years and I was like man. I wish you wouldn't have told me that. I was like now I'm going to lose more money because I really want it. I was like I'm not going to trade in my current Audi Q8 for a while, but I was like maybe if they give me a good enough deal, I would, because I mean, android on the road is cool. You can run full Android apps like Outlook, you can run YouTube, you can run Google Photos all on your car display.
Speaker 2:See, that would be really nice, and I think that's what consumers want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be cool.
Speaker 2:So I saw that that's really what they want.
Speaker 1:I saw that and so I did a few of the bingo things and then I went and got my bingo prize. I went and got the Tumblr traded in my 1,500 points. I got it. It was in a little box, and so then I went.
Speaker 1:Once I got my Tumblr, I went and got some lunch down the road at a deli because Samsung had catered some stuff and it was really good. So I told you the food was good. They had good food. It just wasn't stuff that I particularly like because you know they have limited options. They had a banh mi sandwich. It looks great, but I'm not a huge banh mi fan, yeah. And then they had chicken Caesar wrap and I just don't like caesar dressing, so they didn't have any other options. They look really good. They were obviously gourmet. People look like they were really enjoying them, uh, and they had other stuff with it too, like they had gourmet chips and some cookies in there too, and they had the same drink bar they had for breakfast. It looked great, but I was like I don't want that. So I went and got a sandwich.
Speaker 1:I got a blt at the thing so then I, there were some students that were there at San Jose State from San Jose State at the conference, I guess Samsung invited some students, and so I was looking on X and, of course, because I always post about Samsung stuff, x always recommends Samsung posts for me, and one of the students I guess I'm assuming it's one of the students that was there because they didn't know what it was tweeted a photo out and I was just searching for like Samsung stuff. I was trying to see if anyone had found anything interesting at the conference, because I was like, should I go back? What should I do? Someone tweeted out a photo and they're like look at this, look at these quick settings, look at these settings, or look at the design, and I was like that does look different. And so then I looked at their photo. They weren't media, though.
Speaker 1:They had no idea like what this could be, and so then, I was only halfway done with my sandwich, I took the rest of it, threw it away. I was like I got to get back there and find this.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah.
Speaker 1:Before some other like media outlet or other publication or YouTuber who's there finds it and writes it all up. So I was looking at their picture, like looking for the clues of where they took this photo Like they took a pretty poor quality photo. And so I walked all around and I noticed that in the photo it had the side of a laptop in it, and so I had seen earlier, before I went to get my food, that the coding lab and that's actually one of the things I was thinking about doing later was going to the coding lab and checking that out. Basically, they had little coding labs where a Samsung employee would walk you through how to do some basic coding tasks, because this is a developer conference, right, these are guys who like to code, they want to learn how to use the new tools. That's the whole point of the conference.
Speaker 1:And so I looked around and there's like 13 different coding lab stations and so each of them had four phones they were all S24 Ultras and stations, and so each of them had four phones. They were all S24 Ultras and so that means there's like 50 or something S24 Ultras. So I looked around a bunch of them and I did a couple of the labs and I didn't see this phone that had I assumed was One.
Speaker 2:UI 7.0.
Speaker 1:I just knew it had to be, and so I did a couple of them. And then the third one I happened to do I came upon was SmartThings Coding Lab, number two, station number two. It was code a application that will place a 3D render of a piece of furniture inside your SmartThings home so you can see how that furniture looks in relation to the other stuff in your house. I sat down and I asked the guy. I'm like, yeah, can I do this? He's like yeah, he's walking me through it. And I look at the phone and boom, it's got the battery icon from One UI, 7.0.
Speaker 2:And I was like jackpot. I was like jackpot.
Speaker 1:we found it. So this is the phone that they obviously took the pictures of. So once I started doing the demo, I'm there pretending to be a complete moron, like I've never done any like command line code in my life. And of course, tori, you know I've done plenty of programming.
Speaker 2:Like I'm not a complete idiot. It kind of sounds like linear algebra.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I taught MATLAB, I took C++. I mean I did a PhD program in applied math. I've done a lot of programming. I'm not a mobile app developer or a web developer, but I've done a lot of object-oriented programming. I know how to use command line. So I'm there pretending to be a complete moron that I can't figure out Because basically they had it so that anybody could do it, even if you're not a developer, I assume, because they had students and media there. They wanted to make it not too technical, so you just had to copy and paste code. But I keep taking a break. There's like 10 steps and some of them are really easy. I keep taking a break between each one to open the phone up and go out of the SmartThings app and take pictures of, like, the icons, the settings, the notifications the camera UI, everything that I could possibly think of.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and while the guy is like looking he's like wondering what I'm doing, and so I finally finish it and I go and I tweeted out after I was walking I was walking back to the collaboration area where all the tables were to work on your laptop. I tweeted out. I said I just used a phone with One UI 7.0, smiley face and I started getting tons of impressions on Twitter. People were like Pixar didn't happen.
Speaker 1:You're lying blah, blah, blah, all that stuff, and so I sat down, wrote up my first article about the quick settings and the notification page because I knew that would be probably the biggest story, and then, unfortunately, I highly regret I didn't watermark my first few images that I posted, including a picture. Someone asked me I think the one Sid, who's another guy who does Samsung like software leaks and stuff on Twitter. He asked me for pics. He said pics or it didn't happen and of course you know if someone says that that's what they say.
Speaker 2:If someone says that you have to deliver, you have to post a pic, you have to deliver.
Speaker 1:Even though that was stupid on my part, because I shouldn't have done that. I posted an un-watermarked pic of the phone with way too much of it showing around software information screen that shows it was actually 7.0.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But you can see the laptop in the station.
Speaker 1:So when I tweeted that out, obviously the other outlets who were there Sam, mobile and authority they then were able to go and find it based on my pick, because my pick was a lot better than some of the original, the one that I saw originally on Twitter, cause that wasn't someone who even really knew. I don't think what they were looking at. Yeah, so anyway, I already wrote it up, so we got a bunch of traffic from that initially. Then everyone's like blowing up asking for more and more and more, and so I was like well, I don't know. One thing that crossed my mind was sorry, here I've got to take a drink because I'm basically talking.
Speaker 2:I'm talking the whole time today. Usually we'll have to back forth, but since it's story time today with me, I gotta take a little drink there, sorry.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, um, sorry, he's gonna interject me here this is kind of a different format of the podcast, which I like because, it's a little different.
Speaker 1:These next two podcasts are kind of different format, which is cool, um, so I was thinking like, should I write more of it up? Because also samsung finally had agreed to review our website, or their PR people to potentially maybe get us on the future media list for like hardware events, and so I was like, well, I don't necessarily want to make them mad, and if this wasn't supposed to be on those phones and I, I basically reveal this info, but but I'm like also it's in public, like anyone could have done this yeah, like these.
Speaker 1:Anyone could have got these photos, not just me as media. You just happened to beat everyone to it I didn't break an embargo or anything.
Speaker 2:So I was like yeah, I should write up more stuff.
Speaker 1:So I go back to the station. I noticed that at that station there's four of them at station two. So four phones had One UI 7.0. Out of the 52 S24 Ultras that were in the coding lab. All the other ones were running 6.1. So I don't know how this one station ended up with 7.0. I'm thinking because this version of the SmartThings app maybe needed 7.0. Maybe the new version of SmartThings only runs on that particular target. I don't know. But yeah, so I go back and the guy who was helping me, the samsung employee, he's like, uh, he's like you're gonna, you're back again. I was like, yeah, I just really like this demo.
Speaker 1:I was like, I was like I feel like I missed some of the steps, like I'm trying to understand, like you know, for my particular applications, that I'm developing like how, how this? Works.
Speaker 1:I need to take a few notes and so he's like oh okay, no problem, We'll give you a little time. So this time I was able to go through and do more and take um some, some more pictures of the icons, other stuff like that camera UI. So I go back, I read another article up and about the icons post that nobody else has gotten an article up yet at all. Um, at that point I go back um. And also I forgot to mention one of my ex-followers who's following me for a long time. He was at the conference too. He works for, I think, the california department of corrections, and they use samsung as like an enterprise thing. So he goes to the conference every year.
Speaker 2:He's a he's like a mobile device enterprise manager.
Speaker 1:That's his job. I met up with him and so he was, like you know, there with me walking around some of this time. I forgot his name. I remember Neil. Neil is his name.
Speaker 1:I don't remember his ex handle, but had fun hanging out with you, by the way, neil. So he's sitting back over there with me and like the area where you type with the laptop sitting down and we're discussing it. And then we saw the ice cream bar and their ice cream bar was insane. So I told you the food was insane. The midday ice cream bar was probably on par with the breakfast or above. They had a place where you could create your own sundae. They had hand scooped ice cream first of all. This is not like this, wasn't?
Speaker 1:like store this wasn't like store-bought ice cream. This was like cold stone or better you know level. This is this was-bought ice cream. This was like Cold Stone or better level. This was definitely handmade ice cream and they had two stations one where you could make your own sundae and one where you could make your own ice cream sandwich cookie.
Speaker 2:That's what I would have picked the ice cream sandwich cookie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they did not like you'd be like, oh, maybe how many toppings did they have at the sundae station? Like two or three. They had like 50. I'm not even kidding.
Speaker 1:It was basically like the same number of toppings as Cold Stone Like they had waffle cone pieces gummy bears, sprinkles, reese's Pieces, reese's Peanut Butter Cups they had like everything, like five different kinds of nuts. It was insane. And then they had sauces too caramel sauce, chocolate sauce, strawberry sauce, everything that you could possibly want. And for the cookies you're like oh, they just got like sugar and chocolate chip. They got like 12 different kinds of cookies. There was like snickerdoodle sugar, chocolate chip, white chocolate chip, macadamia and peanut butter. So I got some of the dessert bar, even though I shouldn't. But I peanut butter.
Speaker 2:So I got some of the dessert bar, even though I shouldn't but I was like this is too good, I can't pass this up.
Speaker 1:When am I going to be able to, when am I going to be able to enjoy the Samsung catered dessert bar? I was like I need to think about what my next move is in terms of covering stuff, cause I was like what else should I cover?
Speaker 1:Cause I still had knew I still hadn't gotten everything that I could, because basically I was trying to make sure that you know that the guys you know weren't upset about me doing it and I wasn't trying to make it obvious that I was just playing with the phone and that I was still trying to pretend to do the demo. Plus there's other people waiting to do the demo at certain points, so you don't want to take forever because then people are going to get upset this is a developer conference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably more attention.
Speaker 1:And this wasn't a One UI 7 demo. That's what some people on X didn't understand. They're like why didn't you get more content? Blah, blah, this is not a one ui7 demo. They don't. I don't know if the employees even knew it was running 7.0 or realized or what, but it was not intended for that. It was for smart things, the furniture like the furniture render thing. It was not for people to look at the new os.
Speaker 1:So this time neil went back with me and, uh, the same guy who helped me was there again. I'm back a third time and the same guy who helped me was there again. I'm back a third time. And the guy's like, oh, you're back again. I was like, oh, my friend wants to do it this time. And so Neil sits down and does it. And the guy's like, oh, you can walk him through it because you've done it a few times. I'm like, yeah, I could do that. And so Neil does it while I'm still taking more pictures and videos of the phone, getting some more information.
Speaker 1:And then, finally, I asked the guy at the station. I was like, man, I'll be honest with you, I'm really interested in the new UI on here. I was like I cover Samsung Mobile on my news outlet. Do you guys care if I take some more photos and maybe some short videos so I can see the animations? And so the guy says, oh, I don't care. She's like you should have asked me in the beginning. He's like I would let you just play with the phone. He's like I don't care. And so I started taking some video, getting the animations and all that stuff. And that's when I then got enough to make a YouTube video which I made later in the day. That's where I got the couple of hands-on clips. But I was still trying to be very respectful because there were other people trying to do the demo. So even the guy told me I could sit there and do it. I wasn't going to take like 25, 30 minutes because it's a crowded conference. People want to do stuff. They don't care that I'm trying to cover One UI 7.0 and get some views and clicks and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:And also this time when I went I saw the guy from Sam Mobile. I know I think it's Adnan from Sam Mobile. He was sitting on the other computer at the station across from me. He was doing the same thing. So he finally he had found it he had found the phone from my picture and he was doing his videos his hands-on as well. So I was like I've got limited time. So at that point I was like it's time to make our exit. But then neil was like, hey, the giveaways are going to happen, the big giveaways, and we've got some raffle tickets. I had like 10 raffle tickets because on my way back from lunch, some students who are leaving I guess they had to leave for the day or something go back to class, I don't know what they were, from san jose state. They're like we're not gonna be able to stay for the raffle drawings. Do you want these? And I was like, well, yeah, sure, I'll take them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't know if I was staying, but I that time it was 4 pm. Better to take them than not, just in case.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was 4 pm, and so we went over there and we sat down. They gave away some good stuff. I mean, I wouldn't have stayed if it was like another keychain because I already had six, so I didn't need any more. But they gave away a Z Fold 6, z Flip 6. They gave away a 49-inch gaming monitor, another 49 inch ultra wide galaxy bud, three pro, two galaxy watch ultras and two galaxy rings. And so me and Neil had I don't know how many tickets we had between us. We both sat there, we think.
Speaker 1:So I stayed for 15 minutes for the drawing, watch everybody else collect their prizes and go screaming to the stage and get their stuff. What I don't understand too, is they handed the people their prizes and so, like two things the person who won the monitor, they had to carry it off the stage, I'm assuming for tax reasons, so they don't have to give them a tax form or et cetera, and so they could probably say the value is less than the 1199. So they have to issue a tax form. But then also the people who won the galaxy rings they just to issue a tax form. But then also the people who own the Galaxy rings they just handed them a box. How did they know it was going to fit them? Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Are they going to exchange it Like what if they gave you a size 9 and you need a size 12? What if they give you a size 12 and you need a size 9? Like I don't understand about that I don't get that Like the phone and you, are you going to take the 49-inch monitor home?
Speaker 1:Like, if I'd won the monitor, I don't know what I would have done with it because I can't take it back on the plane. I don't know what I'm going to do. I mean, I would love to have it, but I would have taken it. That would have get out of here. I got to go back and make a video. I was really torn because there was a coding at. There was like an after party for the show starting at 530. And I knew I could probably go back and get more content from the phone. There's a couple of things I still haven't done that I wanted to do and I'll talk about some of my regrets in a few minutes. Um, that I should have done but I didn't. Um, but I was like I got to go back and make a video because someone else is going to post this on youtube. Uh, who competes with me, like sake tech or someone like?
Speaker 1:that and I know hotel wi-fi slow so I went back. Luckily I was staying at the hilton. They have pretty good wi-fi. I paid an extra 20 to bump it to the premium Wi-Fi so I was able to shoot a video, upload it and post a video of all my hands on by last night I think, at like 7 pm California time. So it took me three hours to get everything shot, edited, uploaded, processed and everything. And so, yeah, that video did really well. Of course it got a lot of support. But then everybody else got their videos up too and unfortunately I I do have some regrets about the way everything kind of shaked out, because you know, at the end of the day I should have done a few things.
Speaker 1:So what did? What did I actually cover? A lot of you listening to the podcast probably already know because you're probably following along on on x. I basically leaked all of the new icon designs, which are some people had suggested and shown designs you know renders of before those. Those are all confirmed. There's a new gallery icon that's very polarizing. It's like a rainbow color. It looks like the Apple iOS one.
Speaker 2:Oh, I like that. Remember when we talked about that. I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we talked about that a long time ago, like the beginning of the podcast, back in like June or July, about how that was rumored, we confirmed that New notification and quick settings. So now when you pull down the notification shade you don't get quick settings and notifications together you actually have to get separate pages, like on ios, so these will be on the right and notifications on the left so if you swipe on the right you'll get quick settings and on the left you get notifications.
Speaker 1:They're also more rounded than before. The camera UI has changed, so now the buttons and stuff the toggles are at the bottom to make it more easy to use one handed, which we talked about before as well. That was confirmed. Um, they changed the phone app a little bit. There's some new icons there. They changed the power menu.
Speaker 1:Um, there's a new feature called galaxy avatar, which is, I think, just a renaming of AR emoji. Um, I'm not sure it's an entirely new feature. Ar emoji has existed for a while. Sam mobile wrote up an article about this once. Obviously, like I said, that guy I had notnan, I think this is his name. Um, he was over there checking out the phone once he realized where it was. Um, obviously he wrote up a piece about that being exclusive feature. I'm not sure it's anything really that new, though, because I looked at it and I was going to make a piece about it too, but then I was like I think this is just an ar emoji rebrand. Probably should have wrote something about that somewhat regret that. Um, yeah, I mean, that's the majority of stuff. Oh, the new quick settings tiles. They're customizable, just like on iOS. You can drag them around and change. You know what the size of them like the size of the tiles, you can move them around inside the quick settings so you can change it to your liking. Kind of different panels.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, people are going to like that, people like that it.
Speaker 1:People are going to like that. People like that. It adds some nice customization.
Speaker 2:You have to get them the customization.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I wrote all that stuff up. We showed it off in the videos. The animations look really fluid. There's a lot of things that are unfinished in this version. It was clearly a very early build. Obviously, it's not even a beta, because they said the beta is not coming until the end of 2024. So you've got to understand people who are messaging me on X. They're like what about? You know? I thought it was going to be smoother than iOS. What about the final blurs of you know in and out of apps? That stuff's not all done. This is October. If the beta's not even coming until December, like you can't expect this to be anywhere near final build.
Speaker 1:This is obviously a developer build, test, build an internal build. There's stuff missing. There's a media controller now inside the quick settings as well, which you can add in there. That's actually why in my video there's some dead space down there. Someone realized that. Now my three biggest regrets. One I went into the widgets and I was playing around. Remember, when you're doing this in real time, it's easy for you to say, when you look at my video or you're on X, you're like, oh, you should have did ABC, why didn't you do it?
Speaker 1:But if you're in the middle and you're trying to write up four articles, take hands-on video in the middle of a really busy conference and you're trying to make sure you get the best stuff you can. It's not that easy. It wasn't like this was a controlled demo specifically for One UI 7.0. If I was on the Samsung media list and they're like well, jeff, we would like to invite you to our hotel suite or our convention center private room and let you see a cool tour of One UI 7. And then I missed some stuff, I would say, yeah, you guys should say, jeff, you're a piece of crap, you're garbage, you're a terrible reporter. If I had like hands-on time in a controlled environment, like I had 30 dedicated minutes and I had time to prepare and I didn't cover the right stuff, yeah, that's career criticism.
Speaker 2:But I didn't. I didn't know it was going to be there.
Speaker 1:I had limited time to do it. It wasn't ideal circumstances. This certainly wasn't a controlled hands-on, where I was supposed to be dealing with 7.0. And I didn't know ahead of time, so I missed a couple of key things. I didn't place a widget on the home screen. I did go into the widgets. The widgets have like a new blur. Look to them. I didn't put them on the home screen to see exactly how they look. I know a lot of people wanted to see that I didn't set a timer or do any other live activities because, remember we talked about Samsung might be bringing the dynamic island to Samsung phones where it's kind of like a live activity, it's going to live in the notification bar.
Speaker 1:I really should have set a timer to see if that happens, because that would have been a huge story. I didn't do that, uh. And then the other one is inside of the home settings. I was comparing them to my s24 ultra running one ui 6.1.1 and I thought that the home settings looked the same. But I went back and watched my own video and I realized there's a brand new option in there that says widget and icon style. And that is the really big rumor that Ice Universe had, where you would be able to change the size of the icons and the style of the widgets directly from inside of there and that those icons would also change with dark mode being turned on or off that would be really nice I did a lot of people keep dark mode on I love dark and they want to be able to, you know obviously I say dark mode all the things.
Speaker 2:You know perhaps dark mode all the things oh yeah, yeah, I've talked about all the things.
Speaker 1:Google all of it, just all so I didn't try that either, and so those are the things that in retrospect I wish that I had tried, because those all would have been big stories. But again, if you go and look at all the things I did cover, it's easy to focus on what I didn't. And I wish I would have, because no one else is probably going to have a chance to use a device running 7.0 again, media-wise, until December. So it is a pretty big regret because we might be two months away from being able to play with it again and I wish I had gotten a little more info. But given the time constraints, I wrote four articles on my own. I didn't have a team in San Jose with me. Sumit is my team, but also while all this stuff was going on, sumit is sleeping because all this started happening around 1.30 in the morning, India time.
Speaker 2:Yeah so.
Speaker 1:Sumit. All this started happening around 1 30 in the morning india time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so samit is passed out like he can't help me with anything.
Speaker 1:So I can't like I can't feed articles like ideas to him and pictures to be like samit, you write it up. I'm having to write these articles in between doing hands-on stuff so I could get out content and then go back and make a video. Not an easy thing to do at all, but I had a lot of fun doing it. The main overall regrets like I said a few things I didn't get to check on.
Speaker 1:Wish I had done that, wish I had maybe cropped my photos a little better in the beginning so that we had a little more of a head start, or that I had wrote more content and released it all at once before you know, the bigger outlets found it, and also some bigger YouTubers, of course it all at once before you know, the bigger outlets found it, and also some bigger youtubers, of course, sake tech. He took the hands-ons and then made his own video, which is now outperforming my video, which makes me really angry because he wasn't even at the event. He didn't really discover anything. He just has 1.4 million subs and so then, not angry at sake tech, keep in mind and sake tech.
Speaker 1:We're cool angry at the youtube algorithm for the garbage that they allow to happen. I mean, obviously I broke all this information originally on X and on our website. You would think that the video that originally broke it would get a little more weight, but apparently no. So if you have more subs like, oh well, he's just showing a hands-on video that he took somewhere else and that other guy posted a video, but we don't care, just give it to the guy who has more stuff.
Speaker 2:So no shade to SakiTech. If I were him I'd just we would get there, jeff, yeah.
Speaker 1:I would do the same thing.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I mean I gave people the opportunity as well to go over and use the phone and get other hands-on footage, so I put it out there. But I wish I had maybe watermarked my early images faster and I wish I had also held back a little bit until I had more content because, honestly, a lot of the other media people seem to have been gone. I don't know that they would have found this necessarily. Maybe they would have I mean, I'm not saying that 100 I, you know, if I didn't break it, no one would have. Yeah, but there were pictures on x that some other people have shared. Like I said, I think it was a student maybe who was there who didn't fully know what it was, yeah, and then it got reshared. So they might have saw that, maybe, and they would have found it anyway. But certainly the fact that I shared it made people find it faster because I have a lot more reach and also a lot more people in the Samsung community know who I am.
Speaker 2:So they were paying a little more attention?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were paying a little more attention when I tweeted it out versus those other photos that I had saw at lunch. Never got to finish my lunch either, which was unfortunate. I was hungry. I went back and I even though I'm on a diet I ordered Smashburger and DoorDash. While I made my video I was very tired, as you should. I helped Sumit get pictures that I had taken to write about 10 more articles on some small changes, some of those other things that I told you guys that we found, like I said, small changes. Some of those other things that I told you guys that we found, um, like I said, very smooth.
Speaker 1:A lot of people want to know my overall impressions. I was very impressed with it. It's much. The animations are nice. People are saying, oh well, they don't look like they have ios quality blur and left to right movements. It's not finished and also it's early developer build that was running on a dev demo device at a developer conference. You can't expect it to be perfect. No, it doesn't look like iOS. Smooth level of smoothness, yes, but the transitions and the way that they play with one another, which so many people are interested in, is not quite like iOS yet.
Speaker 1:But, it is a very nice experience. I thought the software was very polished, considering it's not even in beta form. Some people asked some other questions which I will address because I didn't get a chance to test some of these things Someone asked about. Are there new notification sounds or chimes? I didn't test that because I didn't want to really be like playing loud sounds in the developer area and try not to disturb other people. I was trying to be at least reasonably respectful, even though I was trying to get some coverage for the site.
Speaker 2:I'm not a douchebag Try not to be a douchebag.
Speaker 1:Maybe other media, I don't know, wouldn't care, but I didn't do that. Someone asked about battery life. How the heck am I supposed to know battery life? It was plugged in on the table. I didn't use it, so I don't know. Once people asked about that, I was puzzled. I was like table, like I didn't use it, so I don't know. Once you asked about that, like I was puzzled I was like how?
Speaker 1:am I supposed to know what? Yeah, no right. How can I test the battery life? It wasn't even off the charger. It was plugged into a demo table and I didn't. I didn't. I have no idea what the battery life is like. Um, the battery menu doesn't seem to be much changed from before. A lot of the other things are not that far changed. The settings menu is redesigned, but a lot of the internal settings in each of the menus are almost the same as they were before. There's not like a crazy amount of changes, so there's still some stuff that looks similar to one ui 6.1.1 one thing we was kind of figuring yeah, because it's an early build, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did make one really cool change which I put in my video. I made a second video this morning. I woke up at 6 am this morning in california and made another video before I got on my flight. Um, I found a really cool change in my video that I had missed originally. The galaxy ai menu is redesigned and now all the galaxy I functions are completely tied to the apps that they're used in. So instead of saying note assist, inside galaxy Eye it says Samsung Notes, so you know where you can use it and instead of saying it has the icon corresponding to that.
Speaker 1:So instead of saying Browser Assist, it says Samsung Internet, because basically the reason they did that too is that some people think, oh, I could use it in Chrome. Well, no, browser Assist doesn't work in Chrome because it's a Galaxy Eye feature. It only works in the Samsung browser.
Speaker 1:So, that's probably why I have screenshots of that too. I'm trying to watermark all of our images and I'll put them in a folder. A lot of people have been interested in asking me to share things. For everybody who supported and was respectful and asked good questions, I appreciate it. For the people who are just like post more, post more pics of One UI 7.
Speaker 2:That's not how that works. I don't like that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:No, not how that works. I'm not a machine, I'm not a dog Like if you want something and you ask, nicely, if I have information about it, I'll try to get it, but not if you're just like do this, that's not how it works here. No, not here. Not sure what else I can say about One UI 7. I'm trying to think of any of the other things from the stories. I mean, I wrote five articles, I made two videos. Now we're recording a podcast on it. Tomorrow I have the newsletter, which will have everything compiled from everything that I learned. I definitely did not waste money.
Speaker 1:We definitely made money and implied value it turned out to be a pretty good business business trip. I thought during the keynote that I wasted money. I thought I was just going to be kind of a chill day. My day took a 360 like really, or 180 really quickly. I was like I'm just going to relax, do nothing and maybe get a few prizes, and it just kind of took a 180 and I had to go and do crazy work. I was super tired, which was a good thing. Oh, and I did lose. Remember my Tumblr? I got for free, yeah.
Speaker 1:I lost that because when I was at the deli eating and I saw the photos and I picked my stuff up and ran back to the convention center. I left the Tumblr at the restaurant and when I tried to call and get it they didn't have it. I bet, yeah, Someone took it. Oh yeah, no, it wouldn't have been that large Someone someone pilfered my, so if anybody has one of those tumblers from SDC, I'll buy it from you for a few bucks.
Speaker 1:I wanted it, but uh you know the coverage I got was probably more valuable.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I mean, I basically took my second half of my sandwich, just threw it away quickly, refilled my drink, grabbed my backpack and my wallet and my phone and jetted. I left the box that had my Tumblr. It said SDC24. Someone probably came by in the deli and they were having their sandwich like hmm, tumblr. They're like finders, keepers, losers weepers.
Speaker 2:No seriously, the whole Tumblr game is very big these days. You got Stanley dominating, so and Imitator so definitely at an event like that, they're probably going to sell. If you laid it around, it's gone.
Speaker 1:They're going to sell my SDC Tumblr on eBay. Yeah, I'll probably be able to go on there and buy my Tumblr back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, buy your Tumb. I'll probably be able to go on there and buy my Tumblr bag for $100, though Not a couple dollars. Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:It's going to be $100. It's going to be like exclusive Samsung Developer Conference Tumblr Only $100 plus $10 shipping. I'll be like dang, I could have had that for free. I got it for just doing some tasks, but yeah, I mean I saw a lot of other cool stuff around the conference. There's a couple pieces of swag that I didn't have time to get because I started doing the 7.0 coverage. They had a couple other tote bags. They had a SmartThings one, a Samsung Health. They did have one other keychain, which is actually one of my favorites, but I already had six, so I didn't care. I wanted it.
Speaker 2:No, you should have got it the.
Speaker 1:Samsung Health one. I think they ran out by the time I got sleep animals. You know the sleep ring. It shows you your sleep animal. They had the lion and the seal on the keychain, so it had the those animals on the keychain. I thought jonathan would like that too. Yeah, no, you, definitely, you probably really would, yeah, so I did get jonathan and nathaniel some souvenirs, though, while I was there I got jonathan some dino flash cards that have 3d effects on them oh, he's gonna love that, yeah, and then, then I got.
Speaker 1:Nathaniel a book and a stuffed animal. It's a stuffed octopus. Jonathan has one of those already from Mandalay Bay. Anyway, I don't know Any questions for you about the SDC trip.
Speaker 2:No, I mean it seemed like a fun trip. I know you covered all of the mobile stuff, but from doing the entries I do see the appliances and stuff. You know you really did kind of grab my interest with the fridge, like I think I've seen like maybe a commercial or a demo video of it before, but like that's a really cool thing. And I feel like Samsung. Even though, like I only really view Samsung as being innovative in the phones, I feel like they're also innovative in their appliances.
Speaker 1:They are. Yeah, I think they don't focus on smart things enough. This conference was a lot about smart things. It seems like they're trying to push to do that more. All their appliances integrate with mobile and thehings framework.
Speaker 2:Is that so Because, with our mutual friend Jonah, he had the washer, the fridge, the oven, the dishwasher. Would those apps be through the SmartThings? Yeah, all of the.
Speaker 1:Samsung appliances are connected through SmartThings. That's like their smart home network that connects everything and yeah, you can integrate them really well, like the, the fridge particularly is really cool. I really would like to get one of those fridges. I probably will eventually. Um, I don't know how much content I can make on it, because I know how much people will care.
Speaker 1:I mean, I care, I think it's cool yeah, I mean it has sensors in there, like sensors that weigh how much you have for each object. Um can tell you how many you have of each fruit or something. It's got little cameras and sensors that weigh things in the fridge. Now keep in mind, you do have to put them in the same spots If you're someone who puts your milk back in a different spot every time then, it's not going to necessarily work.
Speaker 1:You've got to put them right in the spots they're supposed to be in in order for it to work. I mean there's no other way, because otherwise, if you put the orange juice where the milk goes I mean technically, I guess there's probably some ways they could go around that, but I think how it currently works, you need to put it in there.
Speaker 2:It also has a huge screen on the front of the fridge too. Okay, yeah, it shows you your calendar.
Speaker 1:You can either watch YouTube on it, and you know you can make a phone call from there too because it pairs to your. Galaxy phone. So, like you know, I'd like to get it for Nicole too, because, like, if she's making dinner or something, I'm making dinner too.
Speaker 2:Guys can make dinner too. I just picture like Thanksgiving time a really busy. You know whoever's in charge of making Thanksgiving dinner, like and having to. You know, oh, hey, can you call so-and-so, Can you swing by Walmart or whatever, because I'm short on this. Or even, hey, can you look in the fridge.
Speaker 1:Exactly because you can look in your app and figure out if it's in there because of the camera.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be revolutionary, I think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I can't make Thanksgiving dinner, you know my wife has to do it.
Speaker 2:It's the thing. If she makes it, everyone will enjoy it.
Speaker 1:But if I make it, all the people we invite will never come back for Thanksgiving dinner. I just let her handle it for that reason.
Speaker 2:You're a good manager. I can make like seven things.
Speaker 1:But Thanksgiving dinner is not really in my wheelhouse. I can make spaghetti. I can actually make shrimp gumbo because I'm from Alabama, of course. I can make pepper steak like the kind you get at PF Chang's. I can make that pretty well. Chili, I make chili. I can make a couple different other kinds of pasta too, like fettuccine, alfredo, like shrimp linguine, that kind of stuff. All stuff that's pretty simple. Yeah, like you know, cooking and basting a turkey is a little bit out of my wheelhouse, so it's tough. You know, it's not easy to get the right flavor in turkey. It's tough.
Speaker 1:I tried it one time, a small one like a turkey breast, when I was single back in the day. It didn't go very well and I ended up going to Boston Market.
Speaker 2:Which are closing everywhere in the valley.
Speaker 1:I don't know what's going on with them. I love Boston Market, you know it's too bad?
Speaker 2:Yeah, me too. But you know, I think Thanksgiving turkey is probably one of the most criticized like food. Yeah, you've got to get it right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't phone it in on a Thanksgiving turkey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why it's so important. You know she doesn't, because she doesn't want to eat my turkey either.
Speaker 1:So you know, at the end of the day she's not doing it for me, she's doing for herself, because if I make it, then she's got to eat it and pretend that she likes it because I'm her husband. But if she makes it, then it's going to be good and everyone will actually enjoy it. No one has to pretend that they like the food. So I think that's a win for everybody.
Speaker 1:I think so too, and then see it's all about reciprocity in relationships. When she gets a new phone or a new device and she doesn't want to go through the arduous process of doing the setup, she's like, hey, jeff, you do that like 15 times a month, why don't you just go ahead and transfer all my contacts over, set up all my apps and do all that? And I'm like sure, babe, I'll do that for you. Keep set up all my apps and do all that. And I'm like sure, babe, I'll do that for you. Keep that in mind when you make that delicious Thanksgiving turkey for me all those devices I set up for you.
Speaker 2:It's all about reciprocity. It is, it is, it is. That is how the world goes around Every tech device you get.
Speaker 1:She doesn't want to set it up because she doesn't like that.
Speaker 2:She's like you take this one, the new one.
Speaker 1:Go ahead and move them over. She's like in the morning I'll have a new phone and it will be just like my old one in terms of all my contacts. I'm like, yeah, it will be, because that's what I do. I do that all the time. So, yeah, I mean overall, I had a great time going back next year. No, hopefully we don't get back blacklisted by Samsung for posting this stuff, I mean the Samsung employee working at the booth.
Speaker 1:I didn't get his name, but he looked very important. He told me that it was okay. Actually, he probably wasn't like executive level, but hey also I was thinking I mean, if we do get on the media list, hey, I'm not going to say we are. Hey, I'm not going to say we are, because I've been trying for years and I mean, now we have a website, maybe we have some hope. I've heard some positive. You know, stuff is being made.
Speaker 2:Progress is being made about.
Speaker 1:We might, but if we do, I would really love to get you know who I'd really like to get on the podcast. Sally yes, I don't think anyone's ever interviewed her and we cover one UI, like that's what we cover. I wonder if she would do an interview.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:Obviously she speaks very good English. She always does the press conferences and talks about One.
Speaker 2:UI.
Speaker 1:So it's not like she only speaks Korean, whether or not she'd be comfortable or willing to do. It is completely up to her, of course.
Speaker 2:But that would be like.
Speaker 1:That would be like the dream guest for the map man, because we could like interview her about like what if we could get her here for 7.0? We could like interview her about everything that went into, like all of their design choices. That's what we need.
Speaker 2:That's the guess I was thinking about that earlier.
Speaker 1:Is that actually going to happen? Probably like 0.2%, 0.002% chance of that happening. But hey, if they put me on the media list, I'm going to reach out about it and be like hey, here's an interview request for you guys. I'm on the list. Now I have an interview request and they're like oh, who do you want to interview? I'm like, oh, you know, just the head of Mobile UX, that's all that's all. No, not a big request or anything.
Speaker 1:Like if she, I'm super tired because I've been flying and traveling and Tori's super tired because he's been grading.
Speaker 2:Yeah, grading.
Speaker 1:We're going to cut it at one hour three minutes today, Next week, Max Weinbach, that one. We already really did it, so I can tell you it's good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's really good. Go ahead, tori. No, I that one. We already really did it, so I can tell you it's good. Yeah, it's really good. Oh, go ahead, tori. Oh no, I just I, I thoroughly enjoyed uh getting his knowledge. Uh, he had a very different um perspective and outlook. Obviously, you know, I'm just like a average consumer, but I mean really, you guys should be very excited for that podcast, yeah, when it comes out.
Speaker 1:I enjoy it too, and even a different perspective me, even though I have a lot of insight in the tech community. Max is interested in some of the areas that maybe I'm not as into and also, since I only do Samsung mostly, he has a lot more insight into some of the other manufacturers, and particularly Apple, because I don't spend as much time diving into the Apple space. So I think you guys will really enjoy that particular kind of conversation. We had a good time. We learned a lot of stuff, so definitely check out that We'll have more guests for sure. Whether or not it will be Sally or not, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I can't promise that.
Speaker 1:But I can promise there will be more guests because I've talked to some people who are willing to come on already and we'll line those up later this fall. But hey, if we can get Sally, some other people may have to get bumped because she gets preferential she gets preferential time like if, if she wants to do it. Like you know, I don't know if she's in in the us or korea full time, but if she wants to do it at like 3 am us time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm doing it, I'm here, I'm here at 3 am us time and ready to talk on her time. Um, but until then I'll remind you guys this week to keep expanding your galaxy.